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11 years ago
The infamous Wisconsin tip walk. How prevalent is the tip walk (dancer leaving the main stage going around to patrons soliciting a tip for her time on stage) outside WI?
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11 years ago
I get one dance for only two reasons:
1. Sympathy/get her to leave me alone...yes, I know they won't take "no" personally and I can spend it how I want but $20 isn't much to me and sometimes the best money spent to get rid of her the rest of the night or
2. It's a flyer on an unfamiliar dancer who I haven't gotten dances from before. If its a good dance, chances are later I will get more
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11 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I'd never DATY on a stripper or paid sex professional. You don't know where it's been.
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11 years ago
Yeah, you got taken but not for too much. Lap dance tipping is optional,not mandatory.
I'm not sure of your state of sobriety...maybe you were functional but you do acknowledge that you declined her a few times before agreeing several beers later. I'm going to presume you were maybe buzzed at most but she may have thought you intoxicated enough to slip a phantom 3rd dance to your tally. Regardless, be mindful of the music and if you think the music has changed, inquire whether this is a new song & stop her if you don't want to proceed past a set number of dances.
Lastly, never let them know how much money may be in your person or in your vehicle. You spend it how you want...they're not entitled to it, it's theirs to earn. Just crazy of her to insist she hold onto something of YOURS while you get $ she thinks,but isn't, entitled to.
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12 years ago
Here in Milwaukee free really means free. Clubs accept competitor's complimentary admission passes and never harass you about a drink...granted they don't need to harass because we will find excuses to drink anyway.
My ATF gave me a stack of probably ~50-75 passes that i will have a hard time using up. Only times they don't honor passes is if they bring in some out of state dancer (usually someone on hiatus from the porn scene) to feature that evening.
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12 years ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
Sounds like a poor idea. Men need to choose based on pictures in a binder without the interaction beforehand. The dancers may be discouraged from being selected based on initial first looks.
Now, if the idea was to let patrons pre-load a debit card with $ (sans fees) which comes with a user specified PIN which can then be used to pay for dances, tips, drinks, etc I'd be all for that...granted the dancer will want to be assured she's not selling 5 dances to a guy who can only afford to pay for 1 (tho not much different using cash if you don't have to pre pay for all dances upfront) but it would eliminate some concern I have bringing significant cash to the club. Then I can still pay and tip cash for dances and bring singles to sit by the stage (or ask that $x many dollars be removed from my card for $1s)
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12 years ago
As Club Goer states, was the # offered with a hint that it was for OTC? It may simply be she wants you to ask her in the future when she's working (and get your number in return so she can let you know when she's working or pleaing for $ to make her tip out).
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12 years ago
5 beers in Wisconsin is called "a good start"
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12 years ago
What I always do is I never order my drinks from the waitresses...that way if a talker I don't have any interest in wont leave, I will drain my beer and mention to her that I need to get another drink and head to the bar...usually she will wander off on her own but if she doesn't, i will just sit down near the stage and start tipping.
Course first I try to politely decline her but not all of them catch the drift.
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12 years ago
I just need to find a rich investor that knows the strip club game and sees my vision. It would be a great investment. - first problem is a rich investor that knows the game won't give you money just because they see your vision...and if they know the game and have the $ why give it to someone with no experience and just do it themselves?
Next and probably the biggest issue is the licensing...needless to say most neighborhoods won't want a strip club nearby, either because of morals, the possibility of losing customers to you, or the impact or perception it brings to the area. Once you get past that, it seems like its a huge hassle to get a liquor license
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12 years ago
I just tell them I'm a CPA, which I am, and don't get any more specific than that. It's more of a ice breaking question than anything so I feel no real need to lie.
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12 years ago
Never DFK and only once with any kissing. General rule is I'm against it since I don't know where her mouth has been.
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12 years ago
The worst dances I got were the pity dances I used to buy before I learned to just suck it up and say "no". Worse was a dancer at Silk in Milwaukee (not sure she's there anymore) with the rotten meth teeth I could barely understand.
Second worse was at On The Border in Franklin (Milwaukee burb) with this Eastern European blonde who must've been a serious work out addict and perhaps body builder with bolt ons. Very pushy, bad dances and finally taught me how to say "no"
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12 years ago
Probably Silk in Milwaukee...there is usually 1-3 on each shift and pretty nice looking
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12 years ago
1. Don't leave the club to get more cash, no matter how good a dancer she is
2. Don't over indulge on alcohol otherwise you'll do the opposite of Rule 1
3. No credit cards
4. My personal rule, don't develop favorites. Variety is the spice of life. Get too chummy & you'll find yourself giving "loans" to your ATF.
5. Never go champagne/VIP with a dancer the first time you meet her. If you like her dancing, come back in the future and do VIP.
6. Ignore the upsell talk. The ones that are more subtle & patient about VIP will make it more worth your time.
7. Hygiene...shampoo your hair, body wash, clean shirt & pants, brush your teeth, deodorant, cologne, breathmints, & smile. She puts in effort to look good for you, try to make it feel less like work for her by looking presentable, smelling nice, & well mannered.
8. I offer to buy her drinks but I do let her know I'd rather see my $ go into her pocket than the club's bar & bartender.
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12 years ago
I'd pay for $30 worth of grammar & spelling classes.
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12 years ago
"Turns out she has a boyfriend so it was all about the money." I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
Seriously, you have to go in as the most cynical MFer there. If she has any real interest, she's probably smart enough to know she needs to make the first real & convincing move since while there are plenty of suckers, enough of the customers know how the game is played.
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12 years ago
I agree with jerikson40. If you're comfortable with the arrangement as it is now, fine. If you'd like her as a dating partner, you've been friend zoned. Don't be an emotional crutch if that's not what you want to be.
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12 years ago
When I first started going, $500 or so which steadily crept upward...up to about 10 months ago I was bringing $1500 to the club and spending $700-$1k of it.
I've worked myself down to the $300-500 range. I didn't go to clubs all that often til the last 18 months and kind of fell into the habit, the fun, etc of it all. Part of the problem was being too nice to say "no" to dances (too nice of a guy at times) and also clubbing while drunk...and no, I always entered cynical and knew the hustle I was participating in, nor did I develop a ATF, just enjoyed the variety
Now I know how to say no & have reined in the drinking.
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12 years ago
A gorgeous woman who you love and you don't need to pay for her attention & sex? I don't see the hard decision in this.
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12 years ago
I prefer wrapping up my time before it gets too late because mostly at 2 a.m. you're one of few cars on the road making you an easy target for a traffic stop. Don't read this as me saying I'm driving drunk but by 2 a.m. I'm beat & don't want the inconvenience of being stopped.
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12 years ago
Standard responses: 1) just got here (which only works for the first full rotation of dancers) 2) I was awaiting your company 3) I've been hacking up phlegm all day
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12 years ago
Definitely Friday & Saturdays you'll see the most hotties but you'll also have the most competition to get dances, seating, and drinks. The club I go to usually starts converting their floor table seating from open seating to paid table seating status around 7. No big deal if you're with friends to pay for the table but on your own, you'll have to sulk over to the bar seating where you may get ignored b/c they may think you have no money since you're not seated at a table
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12 years ago
I'd name it "Elysium" and/or another place called "Valhalla". Make it pretty classy too...light blue & green interior lighting for a calming effect...make the place feel kind of like a heavenly place.
Maybe open up another place called "Purgatory"
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12 years ago
I don't sit exclusively on the row, but I sit there a few songs for a dancer that I'd be interested in getting an LD with. It's also a helpful way to escape the attention from dancers you'd rather not have sit down with you and solicit dances from you. Most clubs let their dancers know that those patrons on the row can't be disturbed out of respect for whoever is on stage.