Club_Goer_Seattle

I was there this past Wednesday night. Nine dancers on shift between 10:00 and 11:00 p.m. Maybe four customers at the most. But, I came to see a particular dancer that I knew would be there. The Deja Vu clubs don't maintain Instagram accounts that help customers know who the dancers are and when they're working. Three independent clubs in the region do a fairly good job of that; Pandora's is the best. The other two are The Playground and Sugar's. All three post lineups of their dancers. Pandora's, does this almost once or even twice per shift. The other two, less often. Kittens doesn't post lineups, but you can tell enough from the reposts it makes of the individual dancers when they're working. Those are the clubs to patronize. Maybe the Deja Vu-owned clubs will get the message some day.

The dancer who acted more like a "cleaning lady," may have just been avoiding dancing. Some dancers would rather avoid the stage altogether. They just don't like being the center of attention. The former Talents West clubs used to have a procedure whereby a dancer who didn't want to go on stage could either clean the stage, pole, and mirror during her time on stage, or pay an extra fee (I think it was $40/shift) to avoid the stage during her shift. @Wintersport73: As the old adage goes, "There's somebody for everybody."

Good for you! You learned from your earlier experience at DG-Ricks, to detect a hustler. If you got a single dance with dancer #2, she likely would have asked for $40, as that is the standard price for a single Seattle dance. For that much money, a dancer should give you topless with touching privileges. If she doesn't, she should be outted. Pandora's doesn't have an ATM. Instead, it has a ridiculous procedure of giving the customer "poker chips" that are worth $5. each. You pay for them with your debit/credit card. Then, when you go to use them to pay for dances, the dancers hate that system, because when the dancer redeems them for cash, the club takes 10% of that. (This is an old system that dates to the Talents West clubs days, pre-2010. It was labeled as money laundering in the FBI raids and prosecution that forced the closure of the TW's four clubs at the time.)

All of the local Deja Vu clubs have a nightly "house dance." It's announced as a special as three dances for $60. In fact, the customer doesn't get any more time with a dancer than usual. The three songs are cut short so they only equal the time of two songs. So, you're still paying the same as two $30. dances. Furthermore, the club takes at $10. cut of that from the dancer. The dancers don't like that. I use the house dance to my benefit. If I see a dancer I'd like to do the special with, I tell her, "I'll be glad to get dances with you, but after the house dances is over." They appreciate that, so they don't have to give the club $10. Sometimes they'll go and seek out another customer during that time, but more likely they'll spend the time with me during the special. Two other comments: 1. I'd avoid any dancer that upsells for topless. 2. The Vu clubs aren't the only clubs in the region that have its waitresses try to get customers to buy drinks for the dancers. The Playground does that. Maybe Club SinRock does too, but I haven't been to that club in years. Pandora's, Kittens, and Sugar's (the other independent clubs) don't.

Good thing you avoided "Winter." I'm surprised to hear that she used that name. She did for a while, maybe a year ago, but changed back to "Naima (pronounced nah-EE-ma)" for which she is better known. Moreover, she's a well-documented scammer. Good that you avoided her. @ 59: Yes, the Doghouse Bar and Grill is under the same ownership as Kittens.