I've used a credit card at a club once (and no, I didn't end up getting overcharged), but it was only because I ended up spending more than I had planned to. That's VERY rare for me. When I club, I go in with a set budget, and stick to it.
This thread reminds me of how clubbing is pretty much the only time I use cash to pay for ANYTHING.
What a drab life y'all lead. I prop "No your drinking limit" rather than "Know your drinking limit" because the former suggests, "Just say no, to limits on drinking." :)
Seriously ... I don't find that any of these "rules" would be helpful to me. Especially the spending limit, I've always been limited by cash-flow, not by affordability. An ATM around here gives me a max of $400 (some have recently upped it to $500) from my account, regardless of the bank brand attached to it. So, my experiences have always come in under $400 (plus the $13 or so odd dollars that I had in my pocket before I went to the ATM). Unless I really planned ahead. For example, I went on a couple of mongering trips to Houston, at a time when I did not live in that city, and I went out of my way in the days in advance of the trip to go to a bank to get $2000 (IIRC) in "mongering dollars", $20 bills that I actually marked with a little hieroglyph in one corner. If I didn't spend 'em, I saved 'em for the next mongering occasion; if I did, I didn't withdraw more.
Another thing that seems to work for me, is simply the quality of women. I can't find more than three, four, per night, who are all available, and hot enough, and interested and interesting enough. Flight Club in Detroit might prove problematic for me. :) But at the clubs in my home town, or even in Tampa, I was always on the edge of getting bored by the gals once 11 pm rolled around. And there's always the one-shot-wonder thing. Thank goodness for the male refractory period! If I do hit it off, find a gal who finishes the deed ... I'm done. Why stick around?
Well, those are my "rules." There are no rules, just limits on performance imposed by the external world.
1. Cash is King. When the cash runs out, so should you. I will say, though, that I usually go into a club with no less than $500.
2. Don't be a pussy. Control your space and learn to say 'no" or "no thank you." It amazes me how many guys cannot just tell girls that they are not interested. This leads to all types of silly ploys, such as bathroom trips and thank you tips, just to get girls to go away. Want to enjoy your night to its fullest? Then learn to say no.
3. Don't be an asshole either. Some guys get defensive when they are in strip clubs. If you cannot handle yourself like a man who is quietly and confidently in charge, then keep your fucking girly ass at home. In my humble opinion, guys who are pussies and/or assholes suffer from the same affliction, which is that they are not comfortable with themselves or in being in a SC environment. Once you can act like a man and realize that you are in charge, the ability to be kind quickly follows.
Other than this, I'm not much of a believer in hard and fast rules. I make my own rules and pounce on opportunities when they present themselves.
Anyone that thinks there is a set of "Rules of Clubbing" to follow is delusional! We each have our own rules and that is not to say any are right or wrong.
1--set spending limit and stick to it (carry only what you are willing to spend)
2--no credit cards
3--not atm cards
4--shop around
5--don't spend all your money on one dancer
I carry on the money I will spend and my drivers license
I'm a little surprised at all the anti-credit card statements.
Saying don't use them because of outrageous fees is one thing but saying dint bring then to clubs because you can't control your spending is silly. That's just being weak!
Do you leave your CC at home at when you go to Wal-Mart? No, because you can control your spending. I always use cash too, but by leaving your card at home, your're admitting the strippers can control you. Man up!
WRT credit cards, the potential for abuse by others, even absent any irresponsibility on my part, is too great. They may not be common, but the high profile incidents we see where guys have tens of thousands charged to their cards should be a warning. How many times has a clubber been bilked of only a few tens of dollars in a similar scam, but shrug it off as his own mistake?
To another point, I have never had my wallet stolen in a club, but I know two guys who did. Granted, they were young stupid Marines who should have had less to drink, but even so.
My main consistant rule is to sit in a location, (preferably along a wall), where I can see most of the activity and can not get blindsided
by activity behind me.
I bring extra cash and leave if my cash is almost out unless I'm just watching for the most part.
New rule for me, double check the money I give to a waitress especially if I'm going to say something stupid like she can just give me a dollar back without looking at what I'm giving her. I probably left a much bigger tip based on the comment she told me. I saw one thing in my wallet and might have grabbed a bigger bill. Nothing I can do now.
I bring a credit card with me. I have plenty of self control. Never used it in a strip club that I can remember. I once had a very hot girl wanting to give me more dances but I stopped because I was out of cash.
Avoid rip off bitches is another rule. Asking me to pay upfront is a big red flag. One asked last night but I asked her why and I told her why that alarmed me and I showed her I had the money. She said some guys didn't pay her. Anyway I paid after her dances and all was well. I've been ripped off by dancers saying they would do a certain number of dances at x price and they stole the money I prepaid and ran. Bouncers didn't do anything. She was temporary so nothing was done about it.
Another rule I like to remember but often don't. Try to remember the dancer's name in case she is a rip off bitch so I can get at least the satisfaction of posting her name online.
Another rule, try to remember all your favorites name in case she asks you if you remember her name. I felt embarassed I didn't know one girl's name last night after she asked me. Didn't feel quite so bad after I found out she didn't remember mine either or she claimed. Then she told me the name she gave me last night was her real name not her stage name.
Another rule which I forgot, if a dancer tells you her name and you feel like you should remember it, then ask if she minds you using that name in the club. I'm really bad with names. I usually don't even bother trying to remember them but she happens to be one of my newer favorites.
I'm thinking about making a new rule which is not to get the dancer talking during a lap dance. One dancer started talking and about half way through the dance she is not really dancing anymore but talking and talking.
Oh, another potential rule, prepare to dodge milk if you get a lapdance from a lactating dancer. A definite rule is to not suck on her nipples. I'm not a milk drinker but one dancer attempted to give me some. She was using her tits like a double barreled squirt gun right after the end of the lap dance. She was just playing around even though I didn't care for it. I hadn't even payed her yet.
I always remember the names of women I get dances from, I feel it is important for long term success. But I'm NOT intoxicated, or otherwise impaired either.
1. Don't leave the club to get more cash, no matter how good a dancer she is
2. Don't over indulge on alcohol otherwise you'll do the opposite of Rule 1
3. No credit cards
4. My personal rule, don't develop favorites. Variety is the spice of life. Get too chummy & you'll find yourself giving "loans" to your ATF.
5. Never go champagne/VIP with a dancer the first time you meet her. If you like her dancing, come back in the future and do VIP.
6. Ignore the upsell talk. The ones that are more subtle & patient about VIP will make it more worth your time.
7. Hygiene...shampoo your hair, body wash, clean shirt & pants, brush your teeth, deodorant, cologne, breathmints, & smile. She puts in effort to look good for you, try to make it feel less like work for her by looking presentable, smelling nice, & well mannered.
8. I offer to buy her drinks but I do let her know I'd rather see my $ go into her pocket than the club's bar & bartender.
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*3. KNOW your drinking limits
4. Leave before 2 AM
This thread reminds me of how clubbing is pretty much the only time I use cash to pay for ANYTHING.
That is pretty much it.
leave before 2am or when thng appear like they could get out of hand
do not become a RIL
Seriously ... I don't find that any of these "rules" would be helpful to me. Especially the spending limit, I've always been limited by cash-flow, not by affordability. An ATM around here gives me a max of $400 (some have recently upped it to $500) from my account, regardless of the bank brand attached to it. So, my experiences have always come in under $400 (plus the $13 or so odd dollars that I had in my pocket before I went to the ATM). Unless I really planned ahead. For example, I went on a couple of mongering trips to Houston, at a time when I did not live in that city, and I went out of my way in the days in advance of the trip to go to a bank to get $2000 (IIRC) in "mongering dollars", $20 bills that I actually marked with a little hieroglyph in one corner. If I didn't spend 'em, I saved 'em for the next mongering occasion; if I did, I didn't withdraw more.
Another thing that seems to work for me, is simply the quality of women. I can't find more than three, four, per night, who are all available, and hot enough, and interested and interesting enough. Flight Club in Detroit might prove problematic for me. :) But at the clubs in my home town, or even in Tampa, I was always on the edge of getting bored by the gals once 11 pm rolled around. And there's always the one-shot-wonder thing. Thank goodness for the male refractory period! If I do hit it off, find a gal who finishes the deed ... I'm done. Why stick around?
Well, those are my "rules." There are no rules, just limits on performance imposed by the external world.
Also, I barely drink so this is not an issue for mua.
"Rule Number One: Obey ALL rules!!"
2. It may be just a business, but treat everybody in the club with respect
3. When in Rome....whatever the club or dancer's rule are do not get pushy or whiny about them.
2. Don't be a pussy. Control your space and learn to say 'no" or "no thank you." It amazes me how many guys cannot just tell girls that they are not interested. This leads to all types of silly ploys, such as bathroom trips and thank you tips, just to get girls to go away. Want to enjoy your night to its fullest? Then learn to say no.
3. Don't be an asshole either. Some guys get defensive when they are in strip clubs. If you cannot handle yourself like a man who is quietly and confidently in charge, then keep your fucking girly ass at home. In my humble opinion, guys who are pussies and/or assholes suffer from the same affliction, which is that they are not comfortable with themselves or in being in a SC environment. Once you can act like a man and realize that you are in charge, the ability to be kind quickly follows.
Other than this, I'm not much of a believer in hard and fast rules. I make my own rules and pounce on opportunities when they present themselves.
2. Bring $120 in cash.
3. Give no tryouts--be direct about what I want.
4. Cum.
Only one should ever apply to all. Have fun! :)
2--no credit cards
3--not atm cards
4--shop around
5--don't spend all your money on one dancer
I carry on the money I will spend and my drivers license
Saying don't use them because of outrageous fees is one thing but saying dint bring then to clubs because you can't control your spending is silly. That's just being weak!
Do you leave your CC at home at when you go to Wal-Mart? No, because you can control your spending. I always use cash too, but by leaving your card at home, your're admitting the strippers can control you. Man up!
Many don't want to leave a "paper" trail
Has anyone ever gotten their wallet lifted or heard about this at SC?
WRT credit cards, the potential for abuse by others, even absent any irresponsibility on my part, is too great. They may not be common, but the high profile incidents we see where guys have tens of thousands charged to their cards should be a warning. How many times has a clubber been bilked of only a few tens of dollars in a similar scam, but shrug it off as his own mistake?
To another point, I have never had my wallet stolen in a club, but I know two guys who did. Granted, they were young stupid Marines who should have had less to drink, but even so.
by activity behind me.
New rule for me, double check the money I give to a waitress especially if I'm going to say something stupid like she can just give me a dollar back without looking at what I'm giving her. I probably left a much bigger tip based on the comment she told me. I saw one thing in my wallet and might have grabbed a bigger bill. Nothing I can do now.
I bring a credit card with me. I have plenty of self control. Never used it in a strip club that I can remember. I once had a very hot girl wanting to give me more dances but I stopped because I was out of cash.
Avoid rip off bitches is another rule. Asking me to pay upfront is a big red flag. One asked last night but I asked her why and I told her why that alarmed me and I showed her I had the money. She said some guys didn't pay her. Anyway I paid after her dances and all was well. I've been ripped off by dancers saying they would do a certain number of dances at x price and they stole the money I prepaid and ran. Bouncers didn't do anything. She was temporary so nothing was done about it.
Another rule I like to remember but often don't. Try to remember the dancer's name in case she is a rip off bitch so I can get at least the satisfaction of posting her name online.
Another rule, try to remember all your favorites name in case she asks you if you remember her name. I felt embarassed I didn't know one girl's name last night after she asked me. Didn't feel quite so bad after I found out she didn't remember mine either or she claimed. Then she told me the name she gave me last night was her real name not her stage name.
Another rule which I forgot, if a dancer tells you her name and you feel like you should remember it, then ask if she minds you using that name in the club. I'm really bad with names. I usually don't even bother trying to remember them but she happens to be one of my newer favorites.
Oh, another potential rule, prepare to dodge milk if you get a lapdance from a lactating dancer. A definite rule is to not suck on her nipples. I'm not a milk drinker but one dancer attempted to give me some. She was using her tits like a double barreled squirt gun right after the end of the lap dance. She was just playing around even though I didn't care for it. I hadn't even payed her yet.
2. Don't over indulge on alcohol otherwise you'll do the opposite of Rule 1
3. No credit cards
4. My personal rule, don't develop favorites. Variety is the spice of life. Get too chummy & you'll find yourself giving "loans" to your ATF.
5. Never go champagne/VIP with a dancer the first time you meet her. If you like her dancing, come back in the future and do VIP.
6. Ignore the upsell talk. The ones that are more subtle & patient about VIP will make it more worth your time.
7. Hygiene...shampoo your hair, body wash, clean shirt & pants, brush your teeth, deodorant, cologne, breathmints, & smile. She puts in effort to look good for you, try to make it feel less like work for her by looking presentable, smelling nice, & well mannered.
8. I offer to buy her drinks but I do let her know I'd rather see my $ go into her pocket than the club's bar & bartender.