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4 years ago
As others have said, I believe her request entailed you putting something “in tail”.
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4 years ago
If COVID has thought me anything it’s that I really don’t miss watching any of the major college or pro sports. I really don’t care if any of it comes back, if it means I don’t have to listen to them tell me why I should think and believe in. Same goes for Hollywood.
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4 years ago
I wish my ATF would ask for some money! She has a regular job as an essential worker and has been working tons of hours so doesn’t need any extra cash from me. That means no fun for me either unfortunately!
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4 years ago
About 2 years ago my ATF and her boyfriend broke up (partly because of her dancing). During that breakup period we had one OTC. She told me she knew she would get him back eventually and that she would stop dancing and seeing me OTC when that happened. She did get him back but didn’t stop dancing. We also did about a dozen more otc. Then she started wearing what looked like an engagement ring - but I didn’t ask and she didn’t tell if that’s what it was, We’ve done about 4 more otc with that ring on her finger. It’s cooled off now but that may be COVID.
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5 years ago
After the stay at home order hit my state last month my regular girl asked if I could give her some cash in advance for our next time to get together (it’s hard for me to find time to meet up with her lately). Before you jump on me for being a sucker to pay in advance, she is someone I can trust to make good, She was out of the country for school last fall. While she was gone I sent her cash through PayPal 4 times - she said she would give me IOUs for when she got back. And she did just that. When she asked for another advance last month she had already made good on 3 of the 4 IOUs. We finished off that 4th one 2 weeks ago and I offered her extra cash for another IOU, but she turned it down. She said she wanted to be “debt free” for a while. I offered again last week and she declined again.
Not sure if she has found a better deal with someone else or just doesn’t need the money at the moment. She is working full time at her civilian job and probably is just saving money since everyplace she’d spend money is closed (restaurants, bars and shows).
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5 years ago
Over 2 months since I’ve been to a club and over a month since the last OTC. I’m supposed to see her tomorrow though.
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5 years ago
1. Did you want it more?
My first otc fs with my atf was back in October. It was great and I definitely wanted more but she wouldn’t agree to it again until April.
2. Did prices change!
Nope, same basic price every time, and it was getting better each time.
3. Did she expect it more?
Once she offered FS again in April, we did it 4 times in 5 weeks.
4. Did anything else change!
Yeah, everything changed! After the 2nd of the 4 she dropped me on social media and disappeared for 2 weeks. When I saw her at the club next she said her boyfriend had seen a snap chat from a customer so she had to drop everyone. We did otc the next day and again the next week. After that she says she won’t do fs otc anymore or even see me otc. I think she has quit the club also.
So something changed to get her to start the fs and then change again to stop. Strippers - I don’t get them at all
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5 years ago
My most successful VIP was one of the first VIP session i had with my ATF and included a whole list of firsts for me in a VIP.
The VIP started with some really great deep French kissing (First no 1, I’ve never really been interested in French kissing a stripper before meeting this girl). Next she laid across my lap and with a sly grin pulled her G string aside, a clear invitation for me to start working her with my fingers (first No 2). This led to her unzipping me, kneeling in front of me and giving me an amazing bbbj (first no 3). Since I’m a gentleman I of course offered to return the favor, and she climbed onto the couch straddling in front of me and again pulled the g-string aside so I could go DATY (first no 4!).
This basic pattern has been repeated in VIP with this girl more times than I can remember over the last year. I couldn’t convince her to add FS to the list of my VIP first, but eventually we did add all of the above as my firsts in an OTC session, and this time including FS! Unfortunately she says she is quitting the business soon so this may be the end of an amazing run for me. Don’t think I’ll find another girl like her.
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6 years ago
My ATF became my ATF about 8 months ago when she started dfk and more with me in VIP. I tipped her a couple times at first but then we started hanging out OTC - taking her out for lunch, shopping, etc - and that took the place of tipping ITC. What’s tricky is making sure she doesn’t get to comfortable and a bit lazy since we have been regulars for so long. There has been some of that recently. Recently she asked why I don’t get many dances with any of the other girls. I said I just like her the best. What I didn’t say is she gives the best extras. It might be time for her to see me spending on some other girls so she works a little harder to keep me happy.
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6 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I don’t like tall and skinny girls generally, but I had a girlfriend in college who was 6’2” (I’m 5’11”). This girl had perfect proportions in my opinion so she didn’t really look tall if you saw her by herself. I’d kind of forgotten how much I liked being with her until I met my current atf who is 5’9”. When she is in the club in her heels she really towers over me but when we are together otc she is just the perfect height.
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6 years ago
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JAprufrockDid desertscrub's mom suck you dry, too?
My dad had a subscription to Playboy since the first issue. He would keep the current issue in his bedside table, and I first discovered it around 1970 (I was 7). Later I discovered that he had all the back issues stored in boxes in the basement. Which I had that collection now. Sometime in my early teens I found s stash of more graphic mags (probably Hustlers and Penthouse) in some older kids fort in the woods. Of course the mags were in rough shape from being outside but man did was that a find, like discovering a pirate treasure.
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6 years ago
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LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.
I’ve been to a large number of clubs and never had a tour offered.
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6 years ago
I used to get trapped like this (the Minnesota Nice thing I suppose) but don’t put up with it anymore. If I’m really not interested and they ask permission I decline. If they just sit down without asking I’ll say I’m waiting for someone (I usually am if it’s my regular club), or I’ll say I just got here and I want to settle in first.
What really amazes me about some girls is how they approach me. At my regular club I sit at a small table with 2 chairs along a short half wall that gives a good view of the stage without lots of other customers around. So many girls will come up and sit In the chair next to me that is at the table behind me. If I want to engage I have to twist around uncomfortably. This is almost a guarantee that I’ll blow them off.
What I really can’t understand is why they don’t just ask to sit in my lap! It’s common and accepted at this club so why not go for it and get something started? I’m much more likely to get a dance if she is in my lap letting me get hands on a little or better yet if she is too.
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6 years ago
My atf keeps a bottle in her locker and usually gets a drink after her stage sets, so I don’t have to buy her drinks at the bar. I have gone to the liquor store for her a couple times to buy her a bottle though!
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6 years ago
My atf used to be flaky about 50% of the time when I first started seeing her otc. She is much more reliable now when we actually make a firm date. The problem now is it’s hard to get that firm date locked in. When I ask her to do something at a specific time she says “OMG I’d love to do that but I can’t because of excuse X, Y or Z”. Or she’ll suggest to me that we do something specific the next week but say she’ll have to let me know later when she has time and I’m left waiting. Really annoying. But then she still surprises me and out of the blue contacts me and says let’s hang out and I forget how annoyed I was by the other stuff. Such a sucker...
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6 years ago
I’m married and I first connected to my ATF on SnapChat. I wasn’t on it yet so I made a new account with an obvious fake name and she friended me. I was surprised that she actually had her real name as her SnapChat name. Being inquisitive I had discovered her FaceBook and Instagram accounts before the day was over. After almost 2 months she admitted she had tried to look me up (using the bogus name which she thought was real) and hadn’t found a thing about me. By then I trusted her so I let her know my real name and we became friends on Instagram and FB also. She also knows where I live now and has been over a couple times and I know where she lives. We live VERY close to each other by the way and I more worried that I will run into her with my wife in the real world than I am that she will find her on social media (My wife isn’t on Social Media at all.)
What is interesting is my ATF unfriended me on FB because her boyfriend had access to her account and was always checking her friend list.
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6 years ago
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steeldog65I swear, it's just shrinkage due the cold
Steeldog - I’m in a similar situation with my atf, we have a great time in the club but have not had sex ITC or OTC. We have talked about OTC but it has not happened so far.
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6 years ago
Longball300 - we have similar tastes. My ATF I described earlier is a volleyball outside hitter and pretty much matches the characteristics you described.
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6 years ago
I always thought a shorter curvy girl was my favorite type. But my current and alltime favorite is 5’ 10”, nice b cup, and a big butt and well proportioned legs. Not sure about weight but she looks fine. I’m. 5’11”, So when she is in her stripper heels at the club she towers over me a bit, but in civilian clothes at the mall she is absolutely the perfect height for me.
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6 years ago
That scene in Trance was amazing. Totally unexpected, I probably gasped out loud along with every other dude in the theater.
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6 years ago
I used @General’s approach of taking my ATF shopping at Victoria’s Secret and helping pick outfits she could wear at the club. Didn’t get to see her try them on but she did send me photos later. She would always wear the stuff I bought her when I would see her in the club. It was always a rush to see her on stage in what I bought. And to @flagooner’s recommendation on not getting sucked in by a stripper showing “true affection” this same ATF of mine told me this week she has quit dancing and doesn’t want to see me anymore. So much for making her feel special.
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6 years ago
It was many years, probably more than 5 and possibly around 7 years of fairly regular strip club visits before I had a LDK. Granted the first couple of years where mostly table dances in Minnesota with little contact. It still toook a country or years of real lapdance grinds at the Minneapolis deja vu before I had one. Didn’t even know it was a possibility until I got my first dance from the girl with a nice round but that really new how to rub it on me. I think her name was Summer. I was really embarrassed that first time and I think no I probably LDKed with her every dance she gave. That started a period of a few years where I alarmist always had an LDK, to the point I pretty much stopped get lap dances for a year or more because of it. Now I’m in a period where I really don’t have them
anymore even with my ATF.
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6 years ago
Vantablack - The social media connection can really open you up to getting hooked on your girl. About a month and a half ago my CF added me to her SnapChat. Before that I was happily just seeing her in the club about every other week, where we would do a single VIP ($150). I really liked her but when I left the club I pretty much didn’t think to much about her until I saw her the next time. After she added me in SnapChat, I really got hooked on her. All
of a sudden I knew her real name, where her civilian job was and more. Plus she was sending photos and texts at all hours. It’s been fun, but now I’m thinking about her all the time, either because I’m engaged with what she just sent, or worse, when she hasn’t sent anything for a while I’m wondering WHY she hasn’t.
Now I’m seeing her in the club every week, and we’ve been hanging out some as well outside, which is fun. I’m paying for her time by taking her out to eat and shopping about once a week. She’s definitely got me hooked, but I’m trying to enjoy this for what it is and not get emotionally involved. It’s a challenge.
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6 years ago
For a period of a couple years I had the problem of how NOT to LDK! Seemed like just about any kind of grind in a lap dance resulted in a quick LDK. Last few years I’ve gotten that under control and can control if I have a LDK to when I really want one and can deal with the mess. My problem with my CF is that I’d like to LDK with her but I’m DO for most of the dance and really don’t want to deal with that mess!
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6 years ago
For the first 5 years or so of going for lap dances I never once even came close to having a LDK. But then for some reason I started having them very easily. I still remember the first girl that did it for me and she would do it every time I saw her. Although it was pleasurable I didn’t really want to LDK because of the mess and it would cut my visit short. It wasn’t really shame more the inconvenience of it. For a while I actually didn’t get lap dances at all because I knew I couldn’t control myself from having a ldk. I remember telling dancers that’s why I wouldn’t get a lap dance and some would talk me into getting a dance by saying they wouldn’t let me have one and then they would clearly try to get me off. So For a year or mot i just did the tip rail or talked to girls at my table. Eventually I started to get dances again and figured out how to control it and generally I don’t LDK at all anymore. I’ve been getting a lot of VIP dances with my CF and so far have not had a LDK with her yet which is actually surprising because she isn’t just grinding over my pants, she is pulling me out and doing about everything short of BBFS! I did tell her to slow down once or twice because she had me very close, but generally she is very good at keeping me just on the edge. I usually like that the best, but I think I may tell her soon to just cut loose and let me finish!