Comments by ujay (page 2)

I believe having the room ahead of time gives you a great advantage. Call the stripper no laterr than 24 hours ahead. They are notoriously poor at planning (multiple excuses, "my father has colon cancer", etc). 2. Arrange for early afternoon or evenings; strippers will never appear over a weekend night (game on for them!). 3. Try fucking her first in the club if possible, this way, familiarity is not an issue; 4. On the initial visit, make her an offer she cannot refuse like $300; subsequent visits can be lower. 5. If all else fails, have an escort on standby.

I think that you need to mix things up a bit. Philly is a big city, so there is variety. The escort scene is active and well. When I need to get my money's worth, I stay downtown and call an escort or an OTC. You can have FS to exhaustion; not the tease in SCs. Remember, variety is the spice of life.

I am a black guy and visit clubs in the Philly, south Jersey area. I think that extras depend on the type of club - high mileage or not. In a high mileage club, nearly every girl gives extras, especially during the day. In low mileage upscale clubs, both black and white girls refrain from giving mileage. I have found out that white dancers are more likely to give me mileage than black dancers. A lot depends on time of the month, and how desperate for cash the girl is. I have observed that many of the white dancers are on drugs fuelling their demand for extras. Black dancers on the other hand need the cash for day to day survival. As said, daytime is better than nights; weeknights better than weekends. The same girl who will demand $200 tip on the weekend, will now demand $100 tip on weeknights.

I, too, prefer to club daytime. If I go to a club at night, it is usually during a weekday or sunday evening. Less crowd; more time to spend with the girl.

Penthouse Club, Philadelphia Skyboxes. Leatherseats, beautiful carpet, wall paintings, and lamps.

I have seen a guy aggressively pull a stripper hair and fucked her from the back to no end. I have seen a guy on his knees licking stripper pussy at Club Champagne, nj. I have commonly seen guys take out their penises during lap dances and strippers grind on it. The Best I have seen is a guy in only briefs and a stripper in her tong having a simulated sex scene without penetration. This was during the day at Delilah den in toms river, nj.

I have never attempted or desire to take a photo of a stripper in a club. My success at work requires that I be available. To be away from my cellphone for 2 - 3 hours is to court disaster in my line of work. I either lay my phone flat on the counter or beneath the table, therefore there is no suspicion of photos being taken. When the club is slow as during the day, I may browse the web, read an article, while I wait for my favorite stripper who may be busy at the time. My cellphone prevents me from wasting time with undesirable stripper. I have also used my cellphone to arrange an escort at a slow club, or text a fav to drop by or meet at my hotel. Sometimes, I kill time with cellphone until my fav or escort tells me that they are 15 minutes from the hotel, and then I leave the club and drive over to have a great fucking time. So the strip club becomes the appetizer before the regular meal.

I have never attempted to take a photo of a stripper or photos of anyone one in the club. My cellphone is usually placed below the table or laid flat on the counter. I use my cellphone for several purposes: 1. Pass away time while waiting for a beautiful stripper who may be in VIP. 2. Arrange an OTC meeting with a stripper or an escort. 3. Research other clubs. 4. Avoid wasting time with a less than desirable stripper. 5. Staying uptodate on current events. 6. Being available for emergency calls from work, family, or friends. 7. Waiting for the right striped to come by.

Thanks Guys for the wonderful insight into this problem that seems to affect all of us. I appreciate the comments by Papi and Subraman. My take home message is: 1. Order drinks after the lap dance. If the dance is great, this will serve as a sort of compensation for the dancer, and may lead to an OTC experience. 2. If a drink must be ordered, I should be the one to place the order and know the price of the drink. This way, there are no hidden surprises.

I think that individuals who travel regularly to the same place has the advantage for OTC for several reasons: 1. He has a nice hotel room, probably paid by his company, unlike the regulars who may have to use their homes or a motel because it is self pay. 2. Out of towners are seen as having more disposible income than regulars who may sip on a beer all night. 3. No competition for out of towners from other girls versus the regulars who may have be seeing other local girls.

We have all seen strippers spend several hours with one guy who does no even do a lap dance with the stripper. Guess what? She probably make her money from OTC encounters.

I think that it is very important to be honest with the stripper regarding OTC. For a reluctant stripper, I may up the deal to $300/hour or more. I do not play around or try to pretend to want a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. I tell her upfront that I need BBBJ and CFS for one hour. She can take it or leave it. These girls always have tons of problems from narcotic abuse to late payment of rent to babysitting fees. I let her know upfront. No games; no pretense. This way, my time is no wasted and there are no hurt feelings.

Philadelphia: Penthouse club - expensive, but great mileage to ge had. Cheerleaders - rowdy and sports atmosphere. cheap beer, lots of drinking. Mileage to be had.

I think it depends on the time of the day. Nearly all of the day girls at the Delilah Den Toms River will fuck and suck for at least a $200 tip and $125 for the room. Night time is a little bit different. There may be some peer pressure. I no longer partake in ITC extras, except if it is a new girl I am seeing for the first time. I prefer OTC.

As I grow older, I prefer the OTC experience. Many of the girls who work in nonnude stripclubs see dancing as a glamorous experience. They see it as a broadway walk. They will never advertise for sex on backpage or Eros. After they have seen you a few times in the club and become familiar with you, they are willing to offer you their numbers for an OTC rendezvous. At the Penthouse Club - Philly, one of the most beautiful girls that I have met offered me her number to come over to my hotel room. She works as a shotgirl, and refuses to do anything in the club. On the day we were to meet, she honestly told me that she had $7.28 in her bank account adn would like for her visit to be rewarding. I told exactly what I wanted so we both on the same page. She agreed and we had a memorable time together. In my experience, there are many girls that will not give extras in the club because of fear of being stigmatized, but would willing agree to come to a hotel room.

I thinnk that it is easier to get CFS than BBBJ. As others have mentioned, CFS may look like a regular lap dance. Many stripper perfer CBJ which I particularly do not care for.

I thinnk that it is easier to get CFS than BBBJ. As others have mentioned, CFS may look like a regular lap dance. Many stripper perfer CBJ which I particularly do not care for.

I have thought about this long and hard. I have three major SC resolutions to live by: 1. No ambiguity to get me to VIP. Tell me exactly what will be performed before I pay for VIP. I do not want to feel happy. I need BBBj or FS. 2. Diversify my portfolio: SC, Escorts,AMP. 3. Limit SC visits to no more than once weekly.

SC, I think that you should try as much as possible to get as much as you can ITC. Show her that you have some money to spend. After that, get her number and call her from time to time. Many times, you will be unsuccessful; but sometimes the stars aligned, and BINGO!

Leave her alone. These guys have nothing to show in life other than their beautiful strip club girlfriends. You do not know how much he has spend on her and what promises she has made. These guys see their girlfriends as their property. Stay away for the sake of your life. There is a reason that she want him out of town before she meets with you. She is afraid of his violent temper tarades! Do not get caught in the middle of it. He has nothing to lose. You have everything to lose.

Thanks to Warhawks, Bullwinkel, and Papi Chulo for great words of advice. I will give winter a try with the hope that there would be less dollars and customers, and more opportunity to enjoy.

In my neck of the woods, Philly, South Jersey, a stripper is lucky if she makes $550 a night. Most make $150-200/night without extras. With extras, they may make $500+ a night. The housefees and tip outs take out a good portion of their income. Many stripper have complained to me that they are left with $50 - $200/night after all of the fees. The glory days of the 90s are long gone. I think that the top tier strippers will still earn $100K with extras. The middle tier will earn around $40K per annum, and the bottom tier around $20K per annum.

Dayshift is better for me. Less alcohol; less temptation to drink! The owners are not around. Less employees and staff. One employee may be the bouncer, DJ, cashier, all rolled into one. He is a paid employee and has no financial stake in the club success. I have found out that tipping this alpha employee goes a long way. He cares less what goes on in the common lap dance room, and definitely, turns a blind eye to the VIP. I have never been swindled by the day time dancers, but have had a huge blowout with misunderstanding in the VIP room at night. Extras are readily available even in the regular lap dance room during the day. Your money definitely goes further.

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