I like extras, but recently I have become disillusioned with the unsatisfying FS in the VIP room, with your pants around your ankles, and the rushed atmosphere. I travel for work so I already have a hotel room. The typical cost of the VIP in my area is $20 (admission) + $25 (regular lapdance) + $125 (room) + $150 (stripper). So, I am out of $320. For the same amount, I can get a truly gorgeous magazine cover escort in downtown Philly. I do like the relaxation in the strip club and the interaction with some of the beautiful strippers. However, I now prefer to put on a cover during a regular lapdance and bust a nut in my pants. If I truly like the girl, I will try to arrange an OTC. This way, I get full mileage in the regular lapdance room, bust a nut without ruining my pants, and arrange OTC. The money saved goes directly to the stripper OTC where the experience is much more pleasant and rewarding. Do some of your guys do the same? Save some cash and leave satisfied.
I used to be an LDK fan, but that was before I met my DS. Now I'm in shadowcat's camp. Getting a girl and fuckung her, preferably in a bed, is a 1000 times better. And as for wearing a condom during a lap dance? That's what jerikson advocates! nough said.
You're right about the relative cost efficiency and better more relaxed experience OTC. This can also be a useful part of the OTC pitch to a dancer. She gets all the money, no house fees. She can relax and not worry about getting caught. If she can't drink in the club, she can drink with you OTC. And some will disagree, but you can also let her set the menu limits and negotiate price accordingly. The biggest issue is her trusting you to be safe, her risk is much greater than yours.
For me – OTC does not have that much of an appeal (and no I’m not gay :)).
Yeah – you get to fuck the chick – but other than that is kinda of boring and no vibe.
I like the vibe of a strip club – the music, the low lights; the hot bartender showing cleavage (female bartender that is :)) – the nude dancers on stage – the variety of dancers – all that lead to a vibe that is not there in a hotel room.
I also like variety and get tired of one chick/dancer quick – and I’m also more of a spur of the moment PL and having to plan a OTC and then waiting for it kinda ruins the spontaneity aspect of it that I like and get in SCs.
I also feel that often times dancers look better/sexier ITC than OTC – and ITC they seem to be more in “ho mode”.
I’m not saying OTC doesn’t have its merits (really I’m not gay :)) – I’m just saying that I like all the other aspects a good SC has to offer.
If it's just a nut, I'll do it in the club. Like Papi, I like the atmosphere of the club, and getting my dick sucked (pretty much my limit ITC anymore) only adds to that.
But if I like the girl, and she seems like she'd be fun, I'll prefer the more private, less time constrained, more relaxed, broader range of activities OTC session.
As I grow older, I prefer the OTC experience. Many of the girls who work in nonnude stripclubs see dancing as a glamorous experience. They see it as a broadway walk. They will never advertise for sex on backpage or Eros. After they have seen you a few times in the club and become familiar with you, they are willing to offer you their numbers for an OTC rendezvous. At the Penthouse Club - Philly, one of the most beautiful girls that I have met offered me her number to come over to my hotel room. She works as a shotgirl, and refuses to do anything in the club. On the day we were to meet, she honestly told me that she had $7.28 in her bank account adn would like for her visit to be rewarding. I told exactly what I wanted so we both on the same page. She agreed and we had a memorable time together. In my experience, there are many girls that will not give extras in the club because of fear of being stigmatized, but would willing agree to come to a hotel room.
Most of the postings people make here about OTC are very favorable. The girls seem to like that and so they just pull out all the stops.
But on the other hand, I think there is something to be said for getting to have the girl right then, dressed exactly as you found her. So you want to nail her without she having to change her clothes, drive her car, or even take off her stripper shoes.
This is why I have talked about the idea of a motor home in the parking lot, or of finding ways to set up more places like the TJ Hong Kong Bar.
If it is to be OTC, as far as Escorts versus Strippers, with Strippers you can window shop. You can do more than that. You can fraternize at length. You may even be able to get a front room makeout session with her. I say that this is the way to decide who you do OTC with, not based on ads, photographs, and reviews. But you see my point though, if you go that far with her in the club, then you might as well do ITC.
So maybe ITC for the first time, and then OTC for every time after that?
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Yeah – you get to fuck the chick – but other than that is kinda of boring and no vibe.
I like the vibe of a strip club – the music, the low lights; the hot bartender showing cleavage (female bartender that is :)) – the nude dancers on stage – the variety of dancers – all that lead to a vibe that is not there in a hotel room.
I also like variety and get tired of one chick/dancer quick – and I’m also more of a spur of the moment PL and having to plan a OTC and then waiting for it kinda ruins the spontaneity aspect of it that I like and get in SCs.
I also feel that often times dancers look better/sexier ITC than OTC – and ITC they seem to be more in “ho mode”.
I’m not saying OTC doesn’t have its merits (really I’m not gay :)) – I’m just saying that I like all the other aspects a good SC has to offer.
But if I like the girl, and she seems like she'd be fun, I'll prefer the more private, less time constrained, more relaxed, broader range of activities OTC session.
But on the other hand, I think there is something to be said for getting to have the girl right then, dressed exactly as you found her. So you want to nail her without she having to change her clothes, drive her car, or even take off her stripper shoes.
This is why I have talked about the idea of a motor home in the parking lot, or of finding ways to set up more places like the TJ Hong Kong Bar.
If it is to be OTC, as far as Escorts versus Strippers, with Strippers you can window shop. You can do more than that. You can fraternize at length. You may even be able to get a front room makeout session with her. I say that this is the way to decide who you do OTC with, not based on ads, photographs, and reviews. But you see my point though, if you go that far with her in the club, then you might as well do ITC.
So maybe ITC for the first time, and then OTC for every time after that?
SJG
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