rickdugan

I post over there under a different handle. The big pro is that the discussions are more focused on club and stripper concepts. The cons, however, are also big. A lot of the topics are 101 type stuff and I feel more constrained because I use the same reddit handle to post in a few other forums. I'll never feel free to have a conversation about bending a stripper over my hotel bed with a bottle of Jack in one hand while I'm smacking her ass with the other, by way of one example. 😉

BTW this whole "breaking the law" drum pounding is exactly the same game play that Dems used in NY to turn speeding ticket violations into felonies and grand frauds in order to attack Trump. It's ironic that some folks here are so simple minded that they would apply the same logic to people that just come here to scrub our toilets so that they can buy food to feed themselves. 🙂 Not all crimes are created equal, lol.

Ok Puddy, so in the meantime you would deport the 12+ million already here and the millions more likely to arrive before we finally get our heads out of our asses, assuming we ever do? That would hasten our productivity declines even faster.

You know, the level of ignorance on this board regarding the importance of strong immigration inflows to the U.S. is truly breathtaking. I'm shocked at how may people I normally agree with on substantive issues who become xenophobic, half-educated semi-literate motherfuckers when it comes to immigration. Like many of you, I too voted for Trump. But i guess unlike some of you, I voted for him despite his views on this, not because of them. We are at a median age of 38.6 and creeping higher every year. When that number goes above 40, as it has in Japan and a number of European countries, economic production stagnates. Japan, the highest at over 48, is already downright fucked and it's only going to get worse for them. Immigration has been one of our greatest strengths, a big reason why we aren't already experiencing similar declines seen by many other developed nations. We - are - just - not - having - enough - kids. We need young people from somewhere and lots of them. And to head off any further stupid dismissive comments about how more people will just go back to work or finding ways to encourage people to have more kids, all such efforts in the other aforementioned countries haven't done shit. Women in most developed nations just don't want to spend large chunks of their adult lives raising children anymore. Seriously now, the sheer level of blind angry ignorance on this issue is monumental. This is not a situation where all opinions are equally valid - it's straight fucking math sprinkled with common sense. Are you really that eager to see American exceptionalism fade away in the next few decades? Then keep rooting for us to choke off our inflows of young immigrants. Dipshits.

@Puddy: I don't disagree with anything you said in that last post. But the point of sharing the experiences I have seen and heard was not to work the bleeding heart angle, but to outline the realities that drive them to come here illegally. The military uses a term called "facts on the ground" to describe their realistic assessment of conditions they see firsthand. The facts on the ground here are that our borders are simply far too broad and porous to prevent a certain inflow of illegal immigrants, who are highly motivated for all of the reasons I discussed. So the only practical way that we can truly gain control of our borders, and weed out the bad apples in the process, is to open up our legal pathways by a heck of a lot. Then we can much better focus our enforcement resources on tracking down the small % of bad apples who try to circumvent that process for various nefarious reasons.