Black vs. White

IME – generally yes – but not 100% always.

I think part of the equation beyond color is socio-economic. Most black clubs are small extra-divey clubs in the hood and these tend to be raunchier.

I’ve been to some upper scale black clubs and the mileage seems to be in line with most white/mixed clubs.

But then again – I’ve been to mixed clubs that are mid-tier and the black dancers seem to give better mileage than their white “colleagues”.

So IME; in general yes but not always.

15 years ago I would have said that black dancers were generally higher mileage than whites and I sought them out because of it. Today I think they are pretty evenly matched so now it comes down to which clubs are better. And that can change from one local to another.

A follow on question....is a black guy more likely than a white guy to get extras in a black club? Like impala, I am not a racist. I don't hate anyone.

“… is a black guy more likely than a white guy to get extras in a black club …”

Obviously you are not American LOL.

My experience – and the experience of most whiteys that I have heard/read commenting on this particular statement – is that white guys often get better treatment than the black customers at black clubs.

Whether correct or not – often times white guys are seen as having more $$$ and/or more willing to spend it – and white guys are often also seen as easier to deal with than many black customers.

Apologies for the dumb question Papi :-)

Us Brits are as thick as two short planks.

My experiences with Black dancers in high mileage situations are much more limited than some, but my experience in fraternizing with them tells me that they are accustomed to higher mileage.

But the reason I am replying to your post gets into something else. My experiences with White versus other colors of dancers in more casual situations is extensive. The Blacks and other colors are much more often going to be responsible and self aware people. When it comes to the Whites you are more likely going to find screwy people with serious chemical addiction and behavior disorders. Read some of Gawker's threads about his ATF. You are more likely to find that kind of stuff with White dancers than with any other color.

Also there is another issue, regional culture. I do plan to be in the South. I've been twice before to the South, though not to SC's. And I have online correspondence with a woman in the suburbs of Atlanta.

That Southern cultural stereotype is a White stereotype. And much of it is rooted in this idea of who is okay and who is not okay, and this is originally rooted race.

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Well, not everyone in the South is White. It may be that Blacks are disproportionately still disenfranchised at the ballot box. I know that this is true. The number of not registered but eligible Black voters is enough to turn any statewide contest by at least a factor of 8, in most of these places.

But the cultural representation of the South is still white. The Blacks are not going to be like this.

Then also the South has something else, something I have never experienced, a large Black middle class, in some places. From memory, Memphis is 62% and Atlanta is 54% Black. Now of course this is just the muni. The larger metro is not that way. Newt Gingich's district could not have had many Blacks. But I have never been in a place dominated by a Black middle class. I am looking forward to it.

So when I am in the South, most of the people I'll be dealing with, in all places, will be Black.

I used to read Black Strip Clubs .Net. Unfortunately it seems to be gone now. But they explained in detail in the reviews of the best of the Black dives how things go. The girls would just come up and sit themselves down on your lap, without asking. Then they would start licking your neck and nibbling on your ear, and in generally challenging you to start making out with them. These are the girls I'll be wanting to take into the VIP Room, and then be continuing to see outside.

How much better that is than say in some of these places where the girls just come up and verbally ask you if you wan'na dance, and until you pay you can't get any more rapport with her than that. I guess lots of guys go for it, but I sure wouldn't.

Now TUSCL members have affirmed that the front room makeout session type of approach is also used at the Mixed Race dives, but it still does seem like there has to be a large Black influence for it to be done that way.

So when I am in places with lots of Blacks and Latinas, and especially in the South, then that is who I will be with.

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I'm probably comparing the many of the same clubs as Papi, but its also my experience that mileage is generally higher at black clubs. I wouldn't go so far to say that I, as a whitey, get better treatment in those clubs than the black guys, but I'm certainly not ignored. I think everyone who goes in those clubs gets what they came for, black guys are just less likely to be there to get dances than white ones.

I'll echo what @Papi_Chulo said. White guys, especially white guys who look "professional" are often perceived as having more potential for spending money long term. This often translates into a dancer being willing to give more mileage in the hope of keeping him interested as a customer.

An example: a fav of mine recently told her friend in the club what I do for a living. The friend, who until now has pretty much ignored me, suddenly realized that I earn a lot more than she had previously thought. The fav's friend has been much more friendly toward me since that revelation.

Dolfan says "black guys are just less likely to be there to get dances than white ones."

That's very true.

Many black guys, for whatever reason, just aren't that interested in getting dances, but I'm the exception to that. Just watching and tossing money is boring to me.

Like Papi said, I think it's more of a dive/upscale difference than a black/white difference. I'd have to go back almost three years to remember the last time I got a dance at KOD that was on par with 75-80% of the dances I've gotten at Inner Room (not that I'd call IR a dive, but it's the cheapest white club I know).

Maybe it's different for me - not necessarily because I'm black - but I actually find my mileage to be higher at white clubs.

Papi's comment about the difference in customer treatment is the absolute truth: I promise he and I could hit a club together and get dances from the same girls and he would get much higher mileage and better treatment than I would. Hmm, now I wonder if the reverse would be true and explain my relative success in white clubs.

If a white guy; especially a clean-cut white guy (and by himself); goes to a black club; dancers probably figure he is not there to “hang out” and is there to pay/spend to get his chocolate freak on.

I don't get dances from dark women no matter their race, ethnic makeup, or whatever. All I've found is that it seems foreign women seem more "open" then do American women.

PS - Listen to Papi, The Willy Wonka of strip clubs.

I've noticed many escorts (white) on Backpage specify no black customers. I naively will ask why this is? Is it racism or something else?
One dancer several years ago told me that she rarely did extras with black customers. Her rationale was as racist as I've ever heard - they smell bad, their dicks are too big, and all the regular claptrap.
Several years later she told me that she was banging a Puerto Rican guy for the best sex in her life. She talked about his smooth brown skin, his big dick, his athleticism, etc.
Then a couple of years later I saw her on two occasions with African American men who were as black as can be.
My conclusion: it's all about racism.

One escort's reasons: https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010…

Great read, dtek

"If a white guy; especially a clean-cut white guy (and by himself); goes to a black club; dancers probably figure he is not there to “hang out” and is there to pay/spend to get his chocolate freak on."

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Agreed great read dtek

In general, it's been my experience that white American girls are the least sexually aggressive in strip clubs. I could be influenced by meeting some very aggressive dancers of different races and nationalities.

Like Papi said: A white guy in a black club will get the highest mileage. Black girls in general (not just sex workers) will let white guys do anything. BBFS? Not a problem. That's been my experience at least.

My experience has been black girls are much more freaky and willing than their white counterparts in the club.

I'm a white guy and I seem to attract the black girls every time I'm in a club. I've never asked them why. I've always suspected it was for some of the reasons listed in that article. I'd also wondered why it was that most escorts blatantly state in their profiles that they refuse to meet black guys. That was a very interesting read and answered a lot of the questions I had.

Most of the comments are spot on. The article that dtek posted is fairly accurate as well.

I am a black guy and visit clubs in the Philly, south Jersey area. I think that extras depend on the type of club - high mileage or not. In a high mileage club, nearly every girl gives extras, especially during the day. In low mileage upscale clubs, both black and white girls refrain from giving mileage. I have found out that white dancers are more likely to give me mileage than black dancers. A lot depends on time of the month, and how desperate for cash the girl is. I have observed that many of the white dancers are on drugs fuelling their demand for extras. Black dancers on the other hand need the cash for day to day survival. As said, daytime is better than nights; weeknights better than weekends. The same girl who will demand $200 tip on the weekend, will now demand $100 tip on weeknights.

In my experience, yes.

Hell, yes. At least that's been my experience.

Lots of AMP and AAMP girls are very prejudiced against Black men. In the case of the AAMP girls they are usually foreign nationals here on a 6 month tourist visa. So they don't know much about America or about Blacks. They have just assimilated the media portrayal and stereotypes. Often they do act in a highly discriminatory manner.

For myself I am looking forward to getting out of the Bay Area some and partaking with Black dancers in these UHM Clubs.

SJG

^ I was somewhat considering trying out an AMP just to say I did it, but upon hearing that I'll pass.

If you are black and want to partake of Asians in AMPs, you should be able to find some good ones. Not all of them are so prejudiced. Really it is just ignorance. In their countries they have subsumed the media and class stereotypes from the US. Once this ignorance is overcome, the girls will be okay. So I would suggest you just shop around, or ask advice on where to go in your area.

I have known AAMP girls who are perfectly happy with blacks.

SJG