OTC/ITC: The reliability of a stripper

Thekingof32: " I've had very little success with OTC lately"

The best thing you can do at times like those is to go back and re-read The System by RickyBoy.

Here's a link to The System by RickyBoy:

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Choosing good strippers is similar to choosing good stocks – except harder.

As with many other things; personal recommendations often help; i.e. talk w/ fellow clubbers/TUSCLers in your area/club – but still; it’s a crapshoot at best and all one can do is roll the dice and take it for what it is.

Since I have seen you clubbing twice at my favorite club, I assume that is where you are trying to score OTC. This is not the easiest club to do that because the girls are not hungry enough. Most of the ones that you would want are making enough ITC, that they are not willing to take chances with a stranger OTC.

If you want to continue trying at this club, you first have to do some ITCing and build up some trust with a few candidates. Don't try to rush it. Just forget about OTC for awhile and concentrate on a good time ITC. Then when you don't expect it, it gets offered.

Papi: "Choosing good strippers is similar to choosing good stocks"

You area fountain of wisdom on many fronts this week, Papi. I'll just add that like stocks you want to get out near the top and not let a winner turn into a loser. Also As another wise man (juice) said and it applies to stocks and strippers remember the whole point is you're not married to them.

It's just too bad there isn't a way to short sell them once they are heading south instead of north.

I guess no analogy is perfect if you push it too far. :-)

Keep looking, be patient, and follow shadowcat's advice. They all have some ss, but there are good ones out there. My DS is the best ever -- completely reliable, goes out of her way to be available for me, always does what she says she will, and is always on time if not early.

I have one additional suggestion. Don't be cheap. OTC is like everything else in life. You get what you pay for. If you want premium services, the girls have a right to expect expect a premium price. If you're just looking for sex as cheaply as you can get it, that's all you'll end up with -- cheap sex.

Also, I wouldn't recommend follies for OTC. I have a lot better OTC luck at more expensive, upscale clubs.

@Dougster - it seems I've been going about this all wrong. According to The System, I am only a white three piece suit away from successful OTC.

@Papichulo - since meeting you and a couple other Tuscl members last month, I've been altering my approach a bit. Talking to my fellow clubbers has been helpful.

@Shadowcat - you're probably right. I may need to focus on success ITC first.

Some great advice from the guys here, to me this one of the best things about TUSCL. Wise advice from experienced guys.

Papi said in his Follies review that Thekingof32 is a young good looking guy. If that's the case, you should try to get free OTC with the dancers.

^^^ So sick of hearing this from old guys...if free sex walked down streets we would definitely never step foot into a club. Really it's not that easy. So yes. Clubs are necessary for dry spells. They happen. Even to the mist attractive guy.

You guys crack me up

Serious Talk going on

Shadowcat is right on this one ...

Also "At least when the government takes my money I'm guaranteed to get fucked." Got to laugh harder to keep from crying, as that is so true!

@GACAclub- I said that because I'm a young guy and I've gotten free OTC from some dancers.

Oh...well then damn bro, share that secret. What's the Ranukam System :) because Ricky's suit and tie system sucks.

But really, if you have done it more than once. I'd like to know how it goes down.

...and money ain't a thing for me. So it's not that I'm being cheao. Quite the contrary.

...or do I have to move my ass to Portland. Alabegonz seem to fall into stripper relationships.

In strip-club bizarro world; hooking up usually has way more to do w/ finances than good-looks/youth (it’s more about busine$$) – I often get much more attention now in the SC @ 44 y/o than I did when I started SCing @ 30.

Plus hooking up w/ a stripper for “free” can actually turn out to be more expensive when everything is taken into account – K32 to me is def not stripper BF/hooking-up material and I mean that as a compliment – he’s a smart dude w/ a college degree and his eyes set on law school – hooking up w/ strippers for anything other than P4P would not be a good move for him IMO.

@Pops so noone is talking BF/GF we're just talking about some good old fashioned slam'n . Randy's got a way with the strippers. I'll call him the whisperer. Any rate. It's getting tre' difficult to get non committed sex from ladies now days. I'll pay the substantial financials if that means sex on demand from an attractive lady.

Yeah, it's better to not to go on an OTC mission, usually ends up a kamikaze, your flames will you go into thousands of pieces will be as colorful as the sunset.

Have fun, drink, watch, chat, buy a dance.

Go home happy.

Next day, run three miles.

After that, hit the gym, deadlift 200lbs, do bench press. Keep doing that for one hour, get out, eat a ton of carbs/proteins.

Look at the mirror. Smile.

Call up friends, see what they are up to.

Catch up with them later.

Awesome.

All I'm seeking is a girl that's going to follow through when she says we should meet otc on Sunday. Instead I met with some incredulous excuse as to why she can't make it. For instance "I was en route to the location when a swarm of wild dolphin swam across the interstate causing me to total my car and be airlifted to the hospital ... But I'm working tomorrow night so you should come see me :) " I'm obviously being facetious but you get the point in trying to illustrate.

@johnsmith - I met her last year at Oasis and we've maintained some level of communication via text. She doesn't work there anymore but she still contacts me.

@ranukam @GaCAclub - Being young has helped in terms of connecting with girls similar in age. They usually try to take advantage of my age by assuming I'll fall for SS or be interested in a relationship. I may not be as seasoned but I'm no fool. Free OTC would be ideal lol.

@Papi - I'm inclined to agree with you in that respect. I have no problem spending money but girls tend to assume that I'm too young to afford otc so they don't even mention it.

@albegonz - lol. I will take you advice and hit the gym tomorrow.

Have you considered escorts? I realize the appeal in seeing what you're getting before you "buy". But I imagine escorts are a bit more reliable. It sounds like you're dealing with girls that are trying to dangle the promise of OTC to get you into the club.

I know dating has its bullshit, but get your ass on Tinder. Most of the women I know who use tinder fuck on the first date. I'm not saying give up on strippers, but keep your portfolio diversified. A free civilian 6 can be better than paying for an 8.

"I was en route to the location when a swarm of wild dolphin swam across the interstate causing me to total my car and be airlifted to the hospital"

Did you find out if it was Grady or Northside Hospital?

LMAO!!!

Seeing the word "reliability" and "stripper" in the same sentence always makes me lol.

There's no reliability to a stripper LOL . (Everything they say Manipulation)..There's a high turnover rate in this business. As the older strippers start leaving the business we are left with all the inexperienced girls who are intimidated by an OTC. I've had a lot of OTC success at the topless clubs.(nude club girls are harder to convince). Start the girls out with some lap dances and some drinks. Lap dancing is a great way to test out a girl. Target the one who's really high-milage in this area. During your conversation -get her mind use to the idea of (Private Dancing) However, don't request a Private Dance until after, the 2nd visit at least .....Visit her at least 2 times. After you get her sexualized,liquored up and Private Dance thoughts in her head....... u can offer her something like $100 for private dance off site.(get her mind used to the terminology(Private Dance) ....Private Dance= i Wanna Meet you OTC for sex and dating.....

I realize that I might be a minority of one on this issue, but there are reliable strippers out there. They are few and far between, and you've gotta pay for the benefits, but they're worth it. They are not unicorns even though it seems that way sometimes.

there needs to be a new strip club rule book, the problem is that the equilibrium of the whole otc/ strip club environment is off, to many people wasting money by making it rain and to many 5 acting like they are 10 trying to charge more than what they are worth, and men are meeting their quota. but back to the original statement in my opinion if you want a successful otc you have to go to spots that are hole in the wall Establishment, you cant go to magic city or follies and expect to win at a game that everybody is playing at the same damn time, like the foxy lady a dusty place but you are more likely to win there or you need to go to a good club on a dead night, i have also in the past found out that there are underground parties or by invite only spots that are way better and safer and you can get a better price from a independent contractor, i think ill stick to going to costa rica then this Atlanta experience out their i get treated like a man should for way less

There are clubs where OTC is possible as a sure thing on one time basis but these are the dives. No one should expect an OTC encounter without some effort and time spent in most clubs.

I've only done OTC with two dancers on a P4P arrangement. One was easy; I saw her 3-4 times and she was the one who suggested it. The other took over a year, and again she was the one who suggested it. Maybe the rent was due? (Neither of these are my ATF who is hopelessly in the "friends" zone with me, although I do enjoy that too.) I'm usually not looking for OTC although I've posted about my new girl whom I'm chasing, but at this point it looks like it's not going to happen. It will be 3 weeks away from her the next time I see her next week, so we'll see if she decides to at least try and string me along.

"All I'm seeking is a girl that's going to follow through when she says we should meet otc on Sunday."

I've had very unreliable results whenever I've tried to set up OTC days in advance. I don't even attempt that anymore. However, when a stripper tells me she'd like to come to my room after her shift, she nearly always does.

Exactly what chandler said. The words "reliability" and "stripper" just do not belong in the same sentence. When a stripper agrees to come to my room on the same night, it is highly probable that she'll show up. Where it comes to trying to plan anything in advance, my experiences have been much more mixed and, in all honesty, I just don't bother trying anymore.

I just confirmed an OTC date that was originally scheduled two weeks ago. You guys shouldn't give up, instead you should just keep looking for a higher quality stripper.

And pay them generously. None of this $100-$200. When you pay more generously, you give them a strong incentive to keep future commitments.

Papi makes some good points about hooking up with strippers might not being a good move for Thekingof32, although all strippers don't have messed lives and do extras. I've been with a few that were just stripping to pay for school and didn't do extras.

TheKingof32- Hopefully you stick around on TUSCL for awhile, it's always good to see young guys on here, there's not many of us. Also, I'm actually planning to do law school as well, so good luck to you doing that.

SC, I think that you should try as much as possible to get as much as you can ITC. Show her that you have some money to spend. After that, get her number and call her from time to time. Many times, you will be unsuccessful; but sometimes the stars aligned, and BINGO!

ranukam: "I've been with a few that were just stripping to pay for school and didn't do extras."

Going to see much more of that going forward.

"I just confirmed an OTC date that was originally scheduled two weeks ago. You guys shouldn't give up, instead you should just keep looking for a higher quality stripper."

Good for you, but I really have zero interest in planning a date that far in advance. By the time two weeks have gone by I'd probably get bored with thinking about it and stand the bitch up.

And I'm pretty happy with the quality of strippers I've found by going for hotness, fuckability, etc. over long-term scheduling constancy. But maybe that's just where my head's at.