Burnout ?
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I def have been doing quite a bit of SCing over the last 2 years and last year 2014 in particular.
Lately I’m just bored w/ the same ole thing and feel like I have seen it all.
The SCs in my area have been kinda hit or miss and I feel I don’t have a go-to SC that always delivers – plus I like variety thus just one good SC is not enough for my weekly habit. I even took a 3 hour roadtrip from Miami to Inner Room in Cocoa Beach and although I enjoyed it; it was not really too big a deal.
I’ve had episodes like this in the past (although not very often) and I eventually snap out of it sooner than later.
How about you? Do you recall period(s) in your professional PL career when you kinda lost interest in the wonderful world of SCs?
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You just go SCing way to much.
I remember when cookies and cream ice cream first came out. I would ride my bike to 7-11, buy a pint and eat it over a few days then repeat this process. Eventually I got so sick of that flavor that I literally went over 10 years w/o eating that flavor.
Mind you I didn't stop eating ice cream as a whole. That would just be ridiculous. Ben & Jerrys Karamel Sutra Core and Salted Caramel Core are to die.
So moral of this story is to cut back on ur SC visits or avoid Oreo cookies.
It was the opposite for me – I was a supa straight arrow in my 20s (plus didn’t have much dough) and in my early 40s started feeling like now or never (kinda like an early midlife crisis).
But that may just be the change I need – i.e. go for max quality vs quantity
Typically, I'll just do happy ending massages for a while, and then a few weeks or months later, whole new lineup at the club, and lo and behold, I'll meet a new ATF who is just as great as the last one
I have only visited a SC once in the past 4 months - and it was boring compared to the parties. The parties are every other week and that keeps the anticipation going and preventing burnout.
The only times I have lost interest was when I was consulting in crappy cities - where the clubs and dancers sucked.
Some of us live in those places. So yeah, we get burned out.
We've had a number of threads about this through the years, about one every six months. It happens. When you go to the same clubs, realize the same dancers are there and don't feel like anything new and exciting is coming along, then yeah, it starts to wear on you.
There are two times when I need to take a break from clubbing: After a string of poor outings, or after a really great outing where I feel very satisfied with what happened and don't feel a need to top it for a while. Sounds like you're dealing with the former.
Take some time to indulge your non-clubbing hobbies. Golf, ride a bike, go to see some sporting events, live. Eventually, you'll get the urge again, you'll go back, and it'll feel fresh and new, plus there will be some new talent to keep you entertained, too. Or, like someone said, a road trip doesn't hurt, either.
I've been living in a strip-club desert for over ten years now. My annual trips to a strip-club oasis might impact the wallet quite a bit, but it also puts a huge smile on my face.
At least I'm still able to hook up with some booty calls. Even those are starting to have to be scheduled in. It sucks that spontaneity is slowly creeping out of my life.
To get invited, don't be an a-hole in the club. Be respectful and slightly generous. In my case, I built a rapport with my ATF, and complained about the pasties and the constant rip-off of VIP dances - not the money but the short changing of time - get thrown out a few minutes early by the bouncer for no good reason. After 5-6 visits, she told me that one of the girls was hosting (I had asked her earlier if there were private parties around). I went to the party, got dances with my ATF, with the host, didn't make a scene about anything, tipped everyone who danced (they all are friends and it goes a long way!) and I was in the circle. I started getting invited to all sorts of parties.
The parties generally have a cover that gets you food (chips, sliders, etc), soda and beer. Some have a bar for liqour.
The host tries to balance out the guest list by having each dancer invite 1-2 of their regulars plus a guest. The homes generally cannot host too many folks and I have never seen more than 7 dancers at one of these parties. The dancers do dance and some locations are equipped with a pole.
There are a few truly private areas where no one will disturb you and dances and extras is dependent on the dancer. Each one is different - no one is coerced into anything.
I did hear of one location where the entire house is setup for a SC experience - poles, stages, VIP, etc.m but I have not seen it or been invited. Most of these locations are not always setup professionally - someone's living room, garage, basement - so might not be most comfortable, but I have always gotten good value for my money and had more fun than in a SC.
Also, there are some members only strip clubs, like for instance Sights in Newark NJ.
A dancer hosted party amounts to the same sort of a thing.
Also, JS69, I think such a party would be a much better place for you to take your DS and other OTC partners than a standard strip club.
SJG
Want to tell us what area you are in, and about the type of club you are in?
SJG
Thank you for sharing that with us. Yes I know that KC, Kansas or Missouri, does not have much in terms of SC's.
Have you started working there just because that is where you live?
Being on TUSCL you can learn about how it is in lots of other places.
I don't want to ask you anything too personal about your own practices. But for instance, have you given thought to the concept of structure versus no structure. For example consider two situations:
1. A club where dancers try to get dances by verbally asking guys, and then if the guy goes for it he pays and the money is cut with the house and it happens in a booth, with time measured via songs. Having gone along with such, the guy pretty much has to let the dancer drive it.
Many dancers feel that they make more money this way, and also that it is easier to control the interactions. Many guys don't seem to understand that it could be different.
2. A more wild and wooly club where dancers can try to get dances just about any way they want. Often it comes down to sitting on laps and getting extremely friendly. They don't actually have to get the guy to agree to this either. Sometimes they are not necessarily so interested in dances. Sometimes what they like better are front room tips. They don't have to cut them with the house, and also the situation is more fluid. Dancers experienced in these sorts of environments have emphatically stated that they make more money in these environments. They don't have to spend time making verbal pitches. They are raking in money for most of the 60 minutes of each hour. If one guy is not handing it over, they just move on. Very little lost time.
And then if it is going to progress into the realms of high mileage, then the guy will be more likely to go for that when approached this way. And then in some of the most extreme places, they still don't need booths or back rooms. There really is no limit to what might be done in the front room. Reviews of such places used to be available on Black Strip Clubs . Net.
Here on Bengalhawk's article I've posted several times about these sorts of issues, offering a better way to enjoy the clubs he is visiting:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
Of course I don't want to press you on any personal matters, but I just wonder if you have any feelings about these sorts of issues.
SJG
Alice Cooper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZcJojT…
Go to Lawrence, KS, or if you're really desparate, go to Topeka.