Burnout ?

I've been so absorbed by work and getting established in my new town that I haven't even been to a SC in two months! I keep saying I should go, but then I just stay home and read instead. Even my interest in pr0n is near zero. I barely even notic all the pretty girls at work as much I used to even, either. Focus is that intent. Coming on here to slam dunk that faggot RickyBoy is still fun, so I'm pretty sure it's just a phase. :-)

I think you need another road trip to Atlanta to spike your interest. You seemed to enjoy your trip last year.

Yeah I think that it happens to everyone at one time or other. Think of the money you'll save during your hiatus!

I've been lucky. As far as I can remember, I can't say that I've ever stayed away because of burnout or boredom. Aside from a recent period of irrationally, it's been mostly because of business or satiation elsewhere.

I've been thinking about taking a break myself. Things have been heating up way too much lately and I think I need to stop before I do something that I would regret for a long time to come.

I haven't seen my baby in 99 and 1/2 days....

Slow and stready wins the race.

You just go SCing way to much.

I remember when cookies and cream ice cream first came out. I would ride my bike to 7-11, buy a pint and eat it over a few days then repeat this process. Eventually I got so sick of that flavor that I literally went over 10 years w/o eating that flavor.

Mind you I didn't stop eating ice cream as a whole. That would just be ridiculous. Ben & Jerrys Karamel Sutra Core and Salted Caramel Core are to die.

So moral of this story is to cut back on ur SC visits or avoid Oreo cookies.

I think that you need to mix things up a bit. Philly is a big city, so there is variety. The escort scene is active and well. When I need to get my money's worth, I stay downtown and call an escort or an OTC. You can have FS to exhaustion; not the tease in SCs. Remember, variety is the spice of life.

My finances limit my hobby to the point that I don't foresee burning out anytime soon. Anymore I can't seem to justify weekly trips like I used to in my twenties when I kept telling myself to live it up and didn't bother to invest for the future. Now I keep telling myself to only go twice a month, and invest the $5-600 I save by eliminating the other two trips, so I can enjoy the hobby long after I retire.

U should go to regular bats and shit. Get frustrated with civvies, that will have you back and enjoying SC's in no time :)

“… Anymore I can't seem to justify weekly trips like I used to in my twenties when I kept telling myself to live it up and didn't bother to invest for the future …”

It was the opposite for me – I was a supa straight arrow in my 20s (plus didn’t have much dough) and in my early 40s started feeling like now or never (kinda like an early midlife crisis).

All you need is a dream stripper to renew your commitment. Head out to one of those clubs that you recommended to me. I met several candidates there.

Dream stripper? What is this “dream stripper” you speaketh off; I’ve never heard it mentioned on TUSCL b/f :)

But that may just be the change I need – i.e. go for max quality vs quantity

Dancers get burned out too and need breaks;)

Yeah - it may be a "familiarity breeds comtempt" kinda thing

I lose interest for a little while every few years. Usually it happens when I've just finished with a really great ATF -- maybe she quit the biz, maybe I fired her, whatever -- and not only don't I have any other candidates, but not even a 2nd string to consider bringing up. A couple of flat trips to the club, feeling like I'll never meet another ATF as great as my ex-ATF, and I'm done for a while.

Typically, I'll just do happy ending massages for a while, and then a few weeks or months later, whole new lineup at the club, and lo and behold, I'll meet a new ATF who is just as great as the last one

My club visits have decreased over the past year because I have been attending dancer hosted private parties. The parties are a lot more fun, where the dancers are not constrained by local club rules - they are at ease, rates/times can be negotiated, they keep most of their money and it is a fun environment - mostly because all attending are friends and do not spend time bitching about each other.

I have only visited a SC once in the past 4 months - and it was boring compared to the parties. The parties are every other week and that keeps the anticipation going and preventing burnout.

The only times I have lost interest was when I was consulting in crappy cities - where the clubs and dancers sucked.

Tuscl666 - that's an interesting concept. Are the "parties" in private homes or a rented hall? Is alcohol available or byob? About how many girls/dancers and how many customers? Any private area? Any extras?

I have not been to any club other than Follies since last August. I just went yesterday and then again today. I need a change of scenery and I know it won't be better than what I am getting but I need a road trip and that will make me more appreciative of what I have at home.

Please tell us more about dancer hosted private parties. When where and how does one find such a thing.

"The only times I have lost interest was when I was consulting in crappy cities - where the clubs and dancers sucked."

Some of us live in those places. So yeah, we get burned out.

We've had a number of threads about this through the years, about one every six months. It happens. When you go to the same clubs, realize the same dancers are there and don't feel like anything new and exciting is coming along, then yeah, it starts to wear on you.

There are two times when I need to take a break from clubbing: After a string of poor outings, or after a really great outing where I feel very satisfied with what happened and don't feel a need to top it for a while. Sounds like you're dealing with the former.

Take some time to indulge your non-clubbing hobbies. Golf, ride a bike, go to see some sporting events, live. Eventually, you'll get the urge again, you'll go back, and it'll feel fresh and new, plus there will be some new talent to keep you entertained, too. Or, like someone said, a road trip doesn't hurt, either.

There've been times I've lost interest, but a lot of that time was necessary due to financial constraints. Every now and again when the temptation would rear its head, I'd start thinking of what the equivalent of a couple lap dances might be -- a week's worth of groceries, a tank of gas, and so on. That always put mongering and hobbying their place.

I've been living in a strip-club desert for over ten years now. My annual trips to a strip-club oasis might impact the wallet quite a bit, but it also puts a huge smile on my face.

I don't know if I'm burned out currently, but I am burned out on my favorite club, because the last time I went there, it was craptacular. Considering it's been 6 months now since I've been there, maybe I should go back. But I worry it will be the same crew of dancers again and some of them should have been kicked to the curb years ago.

Although I haven't been to a strip club at all this year, I don't think it's due to burnout or financial reasons. My weekends have been packed this year. I have some nieces and nephews who are really good at their chosen sports and I do my best to attend them. I got too many family events on the weekends plus athletic pursuits and fishing that take up my time.

At least I'm still able to hook up with some booty calls. Even those are starting to have to be scheduled in. It sucks that spontaneity is slowly creeping out of my life.

Nice to have you back, Slick!

It happens to me once every few months.

I'm burnt out right now. I think I need to go less and spend more when I do.

@gawker @johnsmith69 The parties happen more than you think. These are private home parties - dancers take turns hosting or they contribute to a setup at one dancer's home. where everyone is invited by the dancers. To get invited, don't be an a-hole in the club. Be respectful and slightly generous. In my case, I built a rapport with my ATF, and complained about the pasties and the constant rip-off of VIP dances - not the money but the short changing of time - get thrown out a few minutes early by the bouncer for no good reason. After 5-6 visits, she told me that one of the girls was hosting (I had asked her earlier if there were private parties around). I went to the party, got dances with my ATF, with the host, didn't make a scene about anything, tipped everyone who danced (they all are friends and it goes a long way!) and I was in the circle. I started getting invited to all sorts of parties.

The parties generally have a cover that gets you food (chips, sliders, etc), soda and beer. Some have a bar for liqour.

The host tries to balance out the guest list by having each dancer invite 1-2 of their regulars plus a guest. The homes generally cannot host too many folks and I have never seen more than 7 dancers at one of these parties. The dancers do dance and some locations are equipped with a pole.

There are a few truly private areas where no one will disturb you and dances and extras is dependent on the dancer. Each one is different - no one is coerced into anything.

I did hear of one location where the entire house is setup for a SC experience - poles, stages, VIP, etc.m but I have not seen it or been invited. Most of these locations are not always setup professionally - someone's living room, garage, basement - so might not be most comfortable, but I have always gotten good value for my money and had more fun than in a SC.

The private parties seem like a nice concept but it has been posted here in the past about some "home strip clubs" being busted by LE - I think they run an extra risk by selling alcohol w/o a license (not sure if charging a cover and then providing alcohol constitutes selling alcohol though).

It is just friends getting together and having a party; LE has no case against a private party. The money exchanged is to cover the cost of party supplies rather than to try to make a profit selling drinks.

Agree with Sinclair. I checked and it is not illegal to host a party - as long as the host's transaction with the guest ends at the cover.

There are definitely legal liability issues hosting a party. But for an attendee the risk is fairly low.

I like the private party concept. Gonna ask the DS and some others if they know of any such events. I'd appreciate any more info if more people start going to such events. Sounds like a blast.

Dancer hosted private parties sound like a very good idea. I believe that it might be possible to rent the facilities swingers clubs use.

Also, there are some members only strip clubs, like for instance Sights in Newark NJ.

A dancer hosted party amounts to the same sort of a thing.

Also, JS69, I think such a party would be a much better place for you to take your DS and other OTC partners than a standard strip club.

SJG

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Welcome!

Want to tell us what area you are in, and about the type of club you are in?

SJG

Papi, same with me. In my case I think I'm just getting older and my man-juice is slowly drying up.

I've been burned out a number of times. Too much of a good thing can become all too ordinary after a while. I've been burned out on my local club(s), burned out on favorites and, during periods of extensive travel, even burned out on road clubs. Sometimes a break is a good thing. With a little time away, the itch will likely return soon enough.

@Rechthaberei,

Thank you for sharing that with us. Yes I know that KC, Kansas or Missouri, does not have much in terms of SC's.

Have you started working there just because that is where you live?

Being on TUSCL you can learn about how it is in lots of other places.

I don't want to ask you anything too personal about your own practices. But for instance, have you given thought to the concept of structure versus no structure. For example consider two situations:

1. A club where dancers try to get dances by verbally asking guys, and then if the guy goes for it he pays and the money is cut with the house and it happens in a booth, with time measured via songs. Having gone along with such, the guy pretty much has to let the dancer drive it.

Many dancers feel that they make more money this way, and also that it is easier to control the interactions. Many guys don't seem to understand that it could be different.

1. A more wild and wooly club where dancers can try to get dances just about any way they want. Often it comes down to sitting on laps and getting extremely friendly. They don't actually have to get the guy to agree to this either. Sometimes they are not necessarily so interested in dances. Sometimes what they like better are front room tips. They don't have to cut them with the house, and also the situation is more fluid. Dancers experienced in these sorts of environments have emphatically stated that they make more money in these environments. They don't have to spend time making verbal pitches. They are raking in money for most of the 60 minutes of each hour. If one guy is not handing it over, they just move on. Very little lost time.

And then if it is going to progress into the realms of high mileage, then the guy will be more likely to go for that when approached this way. And then in some of the most extreme places, they still don't need booths or back rooms. There really is no limit to what might be done in the front room. Reviews of such places used to be available on Black Strip Clubs . Net.

Here on Bengalhawk's article I've posted several times about these sorts of issues, offering a better way to enjoy the clubs he is visiting: tuscl.net

Of course I don't want to press you on any personal matters, but I just wonder if you have any feelings about these sorts of issues.

SJG

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Rechtheberei- Go to Lawrence, KS, or if you're really desparate, go to Topeka.

Yes, Papi, it happens. Not just with this but with just about every area of interest/activity in my life I've seen interest peak and wane, spend some time as an "avid enthusiast" and then scale down to "casually interested", going on "binges" then being away from it for a while and being able to take it or leave it. It may be burnout or as said it may be sometimes one just reaches a "plateau" one needs to clear his head and be able to go back "fresh". Besides like someone posted earlier, think of the money we save while going through a slow stretch!