Comments by SoonerSam

Unfortunately, I haven't any information on that club at all, bud. I haven't been there nor do I know anyone that has. FI was definitely THE mileage club in OKC. As for other clybs, some are okay, but not nearly what Fantasy Island provided.

I'm with EarlTee. Why are you asking?

Papi, even if Fantasy Island ends up closed down, there are a couple other clubs in OKC that cater to black crowds. A new one called the Oklahoma Gentlemen's Club opened recently. I think it's where the old Onyx Club used to be on NW 10th.

Club>Goer, I'm kinda the same way with respect to dancers and getting dances, although I tend to not worry as much about the sales pitch. I would like the chance to briefly talk to a dancer before I commit to buying dances simply because I think I can tell by a short conversation what kind of dance I will get without going into specifics with her. Other dancers, though, I've thought were so hot that I simply asked her while stage tipping or got the waitress to send her over. I think your OP is spot on, but I'm also not as concerned with how she tries to sell me. Having said that, I have had dancers who were not necessarily on my radar approach me and "sell" me on her LDs. That's more rare for me, but it does happen from time to time.

Hahaha Slick! Seriously, though, there is no protocol, man. However, you need to do one thing, simply two words: just ask. There's no big secret here. You see a girl you like, while she's on stage you tip her and ask her to join you at your table, which you can then ask her for a dance. Or you can ask her when you tip her. Either works, and if you ask her while she's on stage, she'll be more likely to come by since she knows you're interested in spending money on her. You can't wait for them to make the first move, otherwise you'll do exactly what you did - walk out with a full wallet.

I'm still laughing that SlickSpic said he did his own gardening!

Has anyone else been to any of the Wheeling, Weirton, or New Cumberland, WV clubs? Serious high mileage and lots of ITC opportunities. Love that state for SCs. I also love Dallas.

I love kissing strippers during a LD. And I've eaten more than my share of pussy during LDs as well. Two of my favorite things to do in LDs is eat pussy and DFK.

Total clubs: about 34 States: 11 Home State: OK Favorite State: WV

I have tried both escorts and strippers for P4P. I prefer strippers, and the main reason is that with strippers you are doing the equivalent of test driving the car before you buy it. I have developed at least a basic conversational relationship with her prior to the OTC action, and in many cases have developed a physical connection. Plus she has already seen me and knows what I look like, and if she's willing to fuck me OTC for money after that, it usually means she's going to provide good service. If I've asked a stripper if she meets OTC and she says no, I usually don't go any further in asking or trying to negotiate. I usually only ever ask if she gives a great LD anyway, and I don't want to ruin my chances for great LDs just because I was stubbornly trying to get her to do something she likely won't do, at least not with me. Besides, there are too many I've approached about OTC who've said yes to fret about those few who say no, even if it would be totally awesome to score with those few. Escorts are too unpredictable. And I've been burned by escorts that quote a price over the phone then demand an upsell once in the door. And escorts are agreeing to sex with you sight unseen, which could mean their performance could be diminished. I would rather get OTC from a willing stripper.

For robbing a ROB, Alucard. If she had successfully cheated him out of his money, you'd likely tell him be more careful and never trust a stripper. And besides, it's not like he did it for no reason at all. In fact, it was a very good reason. Had she not tried to scam him, he wouldn't have reacted like he did. I guess she should be more careful and never trust a PL she just tried to rob. Paying her in singles is pretty awesome, though.

That is an awesome story!!! Loved it, GMD, and glad it worked out.

Jim, I got scammed the same way with the whole "I don't take money outside the club" line. She claimed she didn't take money outside the club because she didn't want to feel like a prostitute. Guess what, darlin'? If I pay you for sex, whether it be I pay you inside for what happens outside or not, you're a prostitute. But I fell for it as well. Never again. And mine was like $400, not $200. So yeah, I got screwed and not in a good way.

We had a Halloween contest at my club for the dancers judged by 7 custies chosen at random. Winner got $100 from the club. We also had a custie Halloween costume contest. Winner got $200, second place got $100. Chosen by crowd reaction. Obviously in that instance, if a girl custie shows some tits and ass, she's more likely to win. That's what happened.

jabthehut: "The stupid bitch doesn't realize that had she not attempted to rip you off she might have made $100 off of you at another time." This is what I've been saying for years. I'm willing to pay for your time, but don't kill the golden goose. If a stripper tries to nickel and dime me or ROB me by intentionally miscounting dances, or makes promises for more than what is delivered and thinks she got over on me, well the truth is she lost out in the long run. I'm willing to shell out good money every time I walk into a SC, but if you fuck me over one time, you don't get that money - it goes to another dancer. There's always another dancer willing to be honest. And I reward honesty. True story, in fact: a dancer and I did several LDs in a row. It was so good that we both kinda lost track of how many there were. I thought we did more than she did, in fact. I thought we did 5, she said we did 4. I paid her $100 and played it off as a tip because I felt wrong not paying for something I thought we got. And if we really only did 4 (I think I was right and we did 5), well she earned the extra $20. Don't kill the golden goose. Unfortunately for them, some strippers never see beyond the immediate. Rather than cultivate a long term investor, they try to get as much out of one as they can at the moment. Mistake. Long way of saying I think sinclair did the wrong thing for the right reasons. I probably wouldn't have done it, but I applaud him for doing it.

I go to a club where the DJ sends a dancer around periodically with a cup to get the custies to pay for the music. I usually tip the DJ early when I arrive so I usually decline. I can understand somewhat why the DJ does this, being one myself and knowing that we too work for tips (the club pays DJs next to nothing). But it's still pretty annoying to be hit up every hour or so. I think once is enough. As for the club I work at, we send dancers around every 30 minutes to do dollar dances. Girls will rub their titties in the customers' faces and grind on them for a few seconds for a dollar. At least that way, the customer is getting something for his dollar and it also provides them a preview of what a LD might be like from them.

I ain't paying no stripper $100 just to sit with me. Now to sit ON me? That's another story. Yeah, I don't know what the deal is there, but like dallas702 said, if she refuses to give you a LD, that's the sure sign you're rejected. I usually don't want dancers to sit with me anyway, although I will occasionally sit with one to gauge whether or not I want to get a LD with her. It's possible she's shy, or maybe you've been tagged by another dancer. Do you have a CF that may have told her you're off limits?

@Grand and @Slick, I once DJ'd for Christy Canyon back in the 90s. That was pretty cool. She featured art a club I worked in Columbus, Ohio.

Yeah, I agree. Why wait? If a dancer tries to fleece you for OTC when planning ahead. then politely decline and seek service elsewhere. And as has already been stated, your backup plan is ITC. There's really no downside to planning ahead and plenty of upside. I always make plans well ahead of schedule, and I sometimes still get a girl flake out on me and cancel.

I say yes. I thought about that when I read it the first time yesterday, and figured since the club hadn't been reviewed in a long time and the guy was up front about not being there himself, what's the harm.

Hey Nina, do you have a pic you'd be willing to post? I think we'd all like to see you. :)

My first OTC experience, I suddenly remembered, was about 17 years ago. I had forgotten completely about it, or I had not counted it as OTC. However, we definitely met OTC for some extra curricular activity. This hot chick that I actually had known and gone on a date with before was stripping in a club in Des Moines that I used to attend semi regularly. I saw her on stage and was immediately taken aback but highly turned on. She sees me and I go over to her. She says, "Hey baby, want a date?" I'm thinking, "Yes but when?" She says, "Right now." I say sure, and she comes down from her stage set and gets dressed in the middle of her shift. We leave together, and go to a parking lot where we get in the back seat of my car and do the deed for $100. Ah, the good ole days! It's funny how I never equated that to an OTC experience. We actually did that one other time, too. It's odder still that she was able to leave the club with a custie in the middle of her shift and come back with no trouble whatsoever. But then again, maybe not so odd considering the club, which doesn't exist anymore. Still, good times.

I can'tr believe some of the big names on TUSCL got trolled hardcore by Stax on this one! Great stuff. Props, staxwell!

This is a difficult question for me, because honestly I don't know exactly which category I fall into. Maybe it's the clubs around here. Extras are possible in one club in particular in the OKC area, but there's no VIP so anything done is done in the community designated LD area, so FS is probably off the table. I have gotten UHM at this club and even a couple of HJs, but for the most part any extras would have to be negotiated OTC. Having said that, I do have some CFs and when I go in I usually get LDs from there provided they are there. However, I love being a "free agent" because I get to scout the talent I haven't yet had to see if there's more available. Case in point, I went to my favorite club Thursday night and met a dancer who was almost exactly my type (although the fake boobs weren't my thing). Very petite thin body and all kinds of frisky. We've agreed to do OTC and I plan on meeting her for that next week. Had I been tied to only one CF or a couple of CFs/ATFs, I would likely not have had the opportunity to sample her wares. However, if this chick is what she claims to be and we hook up for some hot OTC action, I could see her becoming my new CF and possibly and ATF. But I'll still want to play the field.

Well played, sir! Thanks for sharing that. I, too, went clubbing last night and had a one and done with a chick who gave a pretty lame LD. However, fun was had by myself with other girls. I left happy.