Sinclair Discount

Paying her off in singles is fine. A way to express your dissatisfaction. BUT cheating her out of the $100 she is due makes you NO better than she is as a ROB, and perhaps worse as you ought to know better. Unless it is your intention to be an Asshole and are one.

Not only did you do the right thing, you did a service for humanity. If you played baseball, Sinclair, you'd win the Roberto Clemente Award.

All of you young, up and coming strip club hounds need to learn a lesson from this man.

Good on you. Scew 'em, literally and figuratively, every chance you get. Aft er all that's what they try to do to us. The stupid bitch doesn't realize that had she not attempted to rip you off she might have made $100 off of you at another time.

Alutard, thanks for the insult. And everyone knows I am a ROB already!
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Al the Tard is a fine one to be preaching about morality. He's a dipshit asshole licker.

I'd have to agree that shorting her was a dick move. No better than what she tried to do to you.

Just because it came from Alucard doesn't make it wrong, any more than coming from Dougster does.

That is pure justice, good one.

jabthehut: "The stupid bitch doesn't realize that had she not attempted to rip you off she might have made $100 off of you at another time."

This is what I've been saying for years. I'm willing to pay for your time, but don't kill the golden goose. If a stripper tries to nickel and dime me or ROB me by intentionally miscounting dances, or makes promises for more than what is delivered and thinks she got over on me, well the truth is she lost out in the long run. I'm willing to shell out good money every time I walk into a SC, but if you fuck me over one time, you don't get that money - it goes to another dancer. There's always another dancer willing to be honest. And I reward honesty.

True story, in fact: a dancer and I did several LDs in a row. It was so good that we both kinda lost track of how many there were. I thought we did more than she did, in fact. I thought we did 5, she said we did 4. I paid her $100 and played it off as a tip because I felt wrong not paying for something I thought we got. And if we really only did 4 (I think I was right and we did 5), well she earned the extra $20.

Don't kill the golden goose. Unfortunately for them, some strippers never see beyond the immediate. Rather than cultivate a long term investor, they try to get as much out of one as they can at the moment. Mistake.

Long way of saying I think sinclair did the wrong thing for the right reasons. I probably wouldn't have done it, but I applaud him for doing it.

"but I applaud him for doing it"

For paying her in singles or cheating her out of the $$$ due?

Robbing a rob is fair and square to me. Shows the little cheat what it feels like.

For robbing a ROB, Alucard. If she had successfully cheated him out of his money, you'd likely tell him be more careful and never trust a stripper. And besides, it's not like he did it for no reason at all. In fact, it was a very good reason. Had she not tried to scam him, he wouldn't have reacted like he did. I guess she should be more careful and never trust a PL she just tried to rob.

Paying her in singles is pretty awesome, though.

Sinclair:

I think you should have paid her for the dances received.

Once she reveals herself to be the ROB she is, no longer use her services.

But to rip her off is just plain wrong. Just my opinion.

Interesting. Not everyone agrees.

I would go with the guys that say it's dishonest. So if she counts the money and finds out you shorted her, and let's say she tells the manager. Next time you're in that club and the manager is called in to arbitrate a dispute with a ROB, whose side is he gonna believe now?

I like SlickSpic's posts here; he always says what I was already thinking (or didn't think of yet) but I have to disagree in this case. If I tell a dancer, or anyone, that this is $100, it will be $100. That's just how I am.

I think flashing a wad of 50's and 100's to a dancer who tried to cheat you out of $20 is a great way to make the point that she blew it. I have a zero tolerance policy to dancers who try and cheat me as do most of us here. If she needed that 6th dance money that badly, then that's up to her, but if I owe $100 I'm paying $100.

Don't want to come off as the do-gooder White Knight, but look at it this way. We all bitch about pre-paying for dances but actions like this is why some dancers insist on pay first.

@Sinclair: Yeah, too many girls overcount songs. I once did an experiment where I pretended I had lost track and found it was about 75%. So if dishonesty is the rules she plays by then she really can't complain if others do the same to her. So it's entirely up to you if you want to treat her like she treats her customers or whether you don't think it's worth the hassle and just want to ignore it.

When I run into this, which is depressingly often, I make a show of counting out the exact correct amount of money, no tip. And let her see what's left in my bankroll.

What's a little more difficult is when they pretend they don't know how many it's been, and "guess" on the high side. Hoping to rip you off without making it look like that's what they're doing.

Let's look at this with mathematical logic. A negative times a negative equals a positive.

Negative(Dancer trying to rob Sinclair) X Negative(Sinlair not paying her $100)= Positive(Sinclair receiving a discount and dancer receiving a lesson).

The system of selling dances by the song lends itself to this ripoff, as well as honest mistakes. Better to do it with a timer, by the minute, generally with a minimum of three minutes.

Strippers (and people in general) are like apples, if you're going to partake, don't panty bunch about it that some turn out to be rotten. Whatever revenge you might get is not going to be as satisfying as moving on and getting a good grind.

@SlickSpic: Let's look at it from an ethics point of view instead, "Two wrongs don't make a right."

@GMD-But 3 Lefts does make a Right.

Sinclair was just quicker on the draw.Bravo.

I’m with those that say one should not short anyone – but under the circumstances I personally think Sinclair did a good thing – not necessarily for the sake of trying to stick it to her – but in my view if a dancer is let to get away w/ being a ROB she will most likely keep on being a ROB or even increase her ROB game b/c she gets away w/ it.

Not saying that by sticking it to her she will learn her lesson; but by there being some consequences to her ROBing; she may change her ways.

If it would have been me, I probably would have gone ahead and paid her for 6 dances and then busted her in my review of the club.

Like most I would have just paid the $100 and been done with her, but I'm a little surprised at the negative reactions. If the tables were turned and the customer had been ripped off, people would likely just chalk it up as a lesson learned. Paying the $100 in singles would have been funny, but she would probably keep trying to pull that same shit repeatedly.

She may not change her ways, but at least he gave her the opportunity to learn two valuable lessons for a measly $20.
1) There is more value in cultivating repeat customers than being a ROB.
2) Count your money before leaving the table.

Bottom line, I think she deserved getting shorted for the exact amount that she tried to overcharge and I applaud Sinclair for doing it. If she learned anything from it, one could even make the argument that his actions were in her best interest.

"Two wrongs don't make a right."

I think that expression is best directed at people who don't target their revenge properly. If the OP was going to try to rip off all strippers because one overcounted on him, that would be wrong.

If someone rejects a moral value, it makes no sense they should have the protection of that value.

Adult entertainment is a form of dating. It's strong on the sexual gratification aspect of dating, but lacks the commitment and most of the companionship aspects of dating. Like all dating, you are going to waste some time and money on ROBs and other duds. If you get all focused on payback to the ROBs, you'll get bitter, stay home on weekends, get on TUSCL and call everyone a fag 5000 times, and get ignored.