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13 years ago
Seen it? No.
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13 years ago
At the club and a nice, big-boned girl with very short hair and large boobs was talking me up. I was thinking about taking her to VIP, but in swooped my ATF and she had been drinking alot. She sat down and started grabbing my dick with both hands and I looked at the first chick and smiled and shrugged. I took the ATF back for LDs and she inserted my three fingers and did some heated finger-banging for a song or two. Then she unzipped me and popped me in. I looked up and saw some bouncers pointing in our direction, so I withdrew, to our disappointment. No talk of money. I think she just wanted to show her appreciation for my repeat visits. But if not for my peripheral vision, we would have gotten caught. Never got a chance to replicate it, though.
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13 years ago
Maybe you asked the question of the board, but were trying to put off hearing the answers? You get points for actually going to the pharmacy to see if it was used for what she said it would be used for. But the money is gone, gone, gone anyway. What we don't do for these girls.
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13 years ago
f_d, I know that it is a tough thing for you for guys to answer your question with "Depends. . .". I do think that you can safely rule out walking up to a guy and immediately asking for a dance. Just about every guy wants a little conversation. Flirting is kind of the foreplay. But we know that you have a bottom line to deal with. So, after a reasonable time (conversation lags a bit, club is busy and you have many potential clients, maybe after a couple of songs, etc.) you could excuse yourself and move along with some little backstory (gotta talk to another dancer, gotta freshen up, gotta take the stage, gotta get ready to take the stage, etc.). There will be no hard feelings. But if you get up when the guy says something like "Not right now, but hopefully later" and you act all haughty, then it probably won't happen.
The hottest dancers have been the ones on stage that have a naughty air about them and keep an eye on you. They are like the spider sitting in the middle of the web, daring you to approach. And when you finally do, they'll have you by how they react to your tip. Even the smallest tip can get a lingering purr or a playful package grab or a slow kiss on the cheek. That will usually seal the deal. And if you have a lot of marks--I mean clients--lined up, they will find you if they can see that you are genuinely trying to juggle them all and get to each. If they see you walking away, or sitting somewhere else with other dancers, or lounging with some cheap-ass, they will resent it.
On the drink thing, don't run some scam with the waitress. If the guy wants to buy you a drink, he'll ask and then flag down a waitress. If it is a dancer I want to ditch, I will purposefully not order her a drink while I order myself a drink. But many times that's not enough of a hint.
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13 years ago
Saw Kathy what's-her-name once, the chick who banged all those judges and politicians in Florida while her husband watched and taped in the closet. He was at the SC with her, serving as stage manager/pimp/promoter/Svengali. She put shaving cream on her cooch and had guys come up and shave a little bit for a tip. She had a lot of road miles on her by then. Big crowd, but it didn't look like the other dancers were making much. The headliner's show wasn't much and they charged for everything--Polaroids, souvenirs, private dances at a premium price. I think they even jacked up the usual cover at the door. Was not worth it at all.
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13 years ago
I went to one of those lingerie modeling places one time. The girl was very encouraging in the lobby, which had a few racks and just a couple dozen lingerie hanging on them. I didn't know what the routine was, so I asked her what I was supposed to do. She said I could pick out an outfit that she would wear and model (I presume in a VIP-type area) and that I could buy and take home to my wife! I stood there trying to comprehend that whole scenario, stammered, panicked, and then left. Anything that would have looked good on her would have been plenty small on the wife. And she hates lingerie. So I probably would have been buying for the dancer/model. Should have gotten with that girl. The place was raided and shut down within 6 months.
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13 years ago
fetish, I reread your post to me a few more times. I guess it is a compliment in that the TUSCL guys DON'T act like drunken 13-year-olds with the mental capacity of 2-year-olds. So we got that going for us. ;) I always like the use of the euphemism "private region"--I think it usually means the vagina, but when it is used vaguely it might mean inner thighs or butt crack or something. As I complete my scouting report for my first visit to your club (smirk), you will need to clarify "private region". In all seriousness, most state laws regarding sexual assault have 3rd degree as non-consensual contact with the clothed or unclothed breasts, genitals, or buttocks. So their definition of "private region" seems broader. And every time you get a little feisty, my pulse quickens a bit. :] Also did you clarify this fetish thing yet, or did I already miss it? Latex, stilettos, fish net, chaps, BDSM, strap-on, cheerleader, nun, sexy gardener, what is it?
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13 years ago
Oooof. I'll pass.
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13 years ago
fetish, I enjoy your well-written posts and your thoughtful responses. I do think most of the guys on here respect your choice to not do any extras. But I don't think that the guys on here are representative of the entire club-going public. TUSCLers may be more realistic, mature, and tolerant, but also may be more inclined to pursue extras ITC or OTC. Or they just might be more smooth in the asking.
I never usually expect anything like an extra when I walk into a club. But I had a fave one time who was comfortable with me and that sometimes things just happened. One time she was pretty inebriated and she initiated a hot finger-banging and quickly moved into a FS that I had to quickly bail out of because the bouncers were standing and pointing in our direction. I certainly didn't expect it, it just happened, and neither one of us treated it like an extra in that it didn't trigger a big tip and she didn't ask for anything.
And I'm not sure what exactly constitutes an extra. Another time with the fave, we were clicking again and I asked her to insert her finger. She did and then I sucked her finger. It was about a second of hotness but then it just tasted like nail polish, since she always was getting her nails done. That was a little above and beyond the call of duty for her, but again neither one of us treated it like an extra. Is a quick grab inside my pants crossing that extras line? What about a slow sensuous sucking of my nipple while she massaged my package over my clothes? What about a quick tongue swirl around the head of my penis? What about placing her cooch right in front of my face for a 2-second DATY? None of these things meet the definition of conventional extras, but they do make the dance very erotic. And I would usually pad what I paid for the dances to show my appreciation. But there was no discussion, no agreement, no conversation. I'm not trying to prod you into doing anything, I'm just laying some other points out on the table.
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13 years ago
I was getting on to a plane in my home city once (a smaller Midwestern city) and it was a small jet, maybe 30 seats. Looked up into the eyes of a dancer that I had had lappers with on several occasions. She looked even better in civies and she recognized me but was sitting with her guy and she had a huge rock on her hand. She had that "Don't let on at all" look, so I quickly looked away and walked on down the aisle and took my seat. I always wondered if it worked out for her. If it did, he was a very lucky guy.
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13 years ago
Sprinkles on that or cream-filled?
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13 years ago
Haven't had the OTC offer yet, but I would be a little suspicious if it came quickly. I'd think that she threw out that offer to everybody at the drop of a hat. It may be better to get to know the lay of the land in the club, and the girls, and see if the offer is given out sparingly or not. An offer from the pick of the litter would be better than from the real dog of the pack.
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13 years ago
Omaha needs a Rick's-style club. Sarie's was the best there was in town and it was pretty sorry. They had $40 lappers and a geriatic dancer with basketball-sized boobs. Rick's could clean up in the area, given the closeness to the airport and to downtown. By being located in the tiny town of Carter Lake (a former loop of the Missouri took the Iowa border west a bit where it still stays) it can get the benefit of the town and state's laws. Rick's can make modest changes and remodeling and major changes in culture and dancers and get a big payoff.
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13 years ago
My experience is that the black girls are better dancers, have more body control, and appreciate the attention from a white guy. I think that they still must deal with automatic disqualification from many white guys, so the few white guys that do show an interest, they make it well worth the effort. They are generally saucier, more playful, more irreverent, and more direct. Seems like there are more pheromones per pound and their pussies are more fragrant, moist, engaged, and attractive. They have full, rich lips and I love the small of their backs. But that's just me.
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13 years ago
Have her dress conservatively. Then expect somebody to come up and say something like "Look at the ass on her." Just don't think to much about what will happen after the guests leave, since you could just make yourself conspicuous.
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13 years ago
I like it. You should have taken the professor as a challenge and tried to melt that iciness. The stripper was probably a lost cause.
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13 years ago
On a slow night at Temptations in KC, I was talking up the bartender. She was a good looking brunette, shorter hair, with a chilly British accent. She had an odd name--Zazie or something like that. It was the second time I had talked to her. In a juice club, the bartender doesn't do much. I suspected that she had danced somewhere before. I told her that she ought to be dancing since she looked better than anyone they had (true). I asked if she would ever consider dancing even just once for a customer and she initially declined. Then she said, "Oh, hell, there's nobody here, why not?" We went to VIP and she did two dances (that's all I could afford at the time, I was on my way out the door). She took her blouse off and danced in bra and jeans. Nice natural rack and small, firm butt. She did a pretty good job and even managed to work in some quick stick shifting. There was good grindage and lots of breathing in my ears. I think she enjoyed and certainly appreciated the change of scenery. I went back a year later and she was gone.
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13 years ago
The wife-initiated three-way is far more successful than the guy-initiated three-way. For some reason the girls can always seem to get it worked out better. He's a lucky guy. The dancer will be surprisingly receptive to your advance, and if she's not into it she will still be probably polite and respectful to you, and maybe even appreciative (you might get some nice benefits n the club from her).
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13 years ago
I'd be a little nervous and self-conscious about it. I don't know how she'd do any ITC and hide it. I doubt if they would try to be complicit in it--allowing ITC action because that would boost their collective income--since it could drive the usual crazy SC dynamics even higher. I'd be wary and I probably wouldn't even play along.
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13 years ago
I don't think that too many guys would care one way or another. Many of the guys are wearing rings, too, and that doesn't stop them from doing what they do. Whether you are wearing a ring or not, a guy might at some point be interested in whether further advances could result in a boyfriend/pimp/dealer jumping into the picture, which makes things messy. Nothing dissolves a fantasy quicker than the possibility of a fucked-up dude with a weapon kicking in a door. We kind of steer clear of that.
And if there is a ring on her finger, we either think that it is a dummy ring or that the dancer is doing it with the tacit approval of her spouse. If she is giving all of the green lights, then the husband must be okay with it. In a way, the aggressive married stripper may be more safer than the stripper with the low-life boyfriend. I try to get a sense of what is going on in her personal life so that I can assess the risks to me, but dancers rarely divulge the whole truth. Evidence of drug use and bruises usually are the red flags.
And Daisy, about your avatar. I don't know if you were shooting for the no-nonsense ball-buster image, but that is what is conveyed by your avatar. A little road-weary, a little prickly.
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13 years ago
If she is on stage, I am drawn to her dancing (true!). If she has a fluid grace and sensuality and can do a little pole work, I will quickly move from the back seats to the stage. If the stage show is outstanding, I quickly start tipping and let her know that I am open for VIP. Eyes, hair, roundness and firmness of ass, and personality all matter. If these are all good, then I can overlook some fake tits.
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13 years ago
One dancer had a great scent and I asked her about it. Sandalwood. Very subtle and very nice.