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Alucard “NEVER had a Dancer confess to lying. Sounds like SS to me.” LOL at the SS comment – she lied to me by telling me the truth. Now that is devious! But seriously, sometimes I think I must live in some different SC world than a lot of my fellow TUSCLers. I expect strippers to lie. I encourage strippers to lie. For their own protection as well as my own amusement. I never confront strippers with their lies. I have nothing to gain or lose either way so why be rude. On RARE occasions they can be honest though. With this girl it wasn’t some kind of SS. More of a case of just not cut out to be a stripper. The fact that she had fabricated an alternate life story is completely normal to me. Truthfully it was the *extreme* guilt that she had combined with the *everything* comment that struck me. But as to confessions, I think sometimes strippers have a need to confess to someone in an attempt to somehow hang onto reality rather than be consumed by the lies that they often end up living. A telling confession (of sorts) I once got was when a stripper friend went to an all day/night party instead of her court date. In the club the next day I asked if she had gone to court - meaning that morning to make sure they didn’t issue a warrant. She started telling me how she had missed court due to an emergency and proceeded to tell me that her friend was in a terrible accident. I voiced my sympathy just as another dancer came up and thanked me again for taking her to the party. My friend looked at me and said: “I have no idea why I just lied to you. Didn’t we talk at the party?” Yes my dear, for about two hours - mostly about how you were blowing off your court date in order to be at the party.

SnakePlissken. “Germany has cheap, legal, clean, and hot prostitutes. Why would you bother visiting a German strip club.” Two different experiences. The whorehouses tend to be warehouses full of prostitutes or high-priced spas where the sole purpose is to pay and get a nut. SCs are more like the states. You can sit, drink great beer, watch/talk with naked women and for those who partake, the full menu is still available. To each his own. BTW *clean* is a relative term.

shadowcat “I have looked at a lot of reviews for clubs ouside the U.S. just for comparrison. Excluding Canada & Mexico, Israel appears to have the best clubs for what guys on TUSCL are looking for. Dancer quality, mileage and value.” Best certainly have to start with Thailand, Philippines, and Colombia. Germany and Spain are both good and I like Central America but the danger level is probably too high for most TUSCLers. My experiences with clubs in Israel were less than thrilling - high-priced whorehouses. IMO/E most clubs outside of the States beat U.S. clubs on all three counts. Yes there are many that are prohibitively expensive but the opposite is much more common (going to the tourist clubs is usually a mistake). In the case of ramrise’s review, again in my opinion, they saw him coming and took advantage of him. If you read DodgerBulldog’s review of the same club from 2007 you will have a better appreciation of what ramrise could have had. Unfortunately there is little coverage of foreign clubs in the form of reviews on TUSCL. Thus those people who don’t know what they are doing or what to expect become easy prey.

@F_D. It is important to define terminology in any serious debate/discussion. The common usage of the terms conservative and liberal have become simple pejorative labels. In fact those common uses are merely descriptors of two sides of the same coin and neither side is entitled to lay claim to either term. These are the people who believe that they have the right and duty to dictate to others – what to do, what not to do, what to believe, what not to believe, etc. In short they are elitists who in their hearts believe themselves to be superiour to all others who *must* submit to them. The competing political ideologies are mere smoke screens in a competition to determine who will be the slave master. Unlike the 1984 Orwellian usage, true conservatives and liberals (in the literal definition) are exactly the same people. They believe in individual freedom, self reliance/responsibility and have little or no interest in what others do as long as there is no negative effect on innocents or the safety/security of the common society. Now back to my whiskey.

“so tell me the worst stripper car you've seen” That would be the stripper’s car that was torched in the club parking lot one night. And just to burst the stereotype bubble, I knew a dancer who drove a brand new Corvette that she paid cash for. It probably took her only about a month to earn that much.