Comments by MrDeuce (page 6)

Of course Jewish women can be strippers in Tel Aviv! It is, as the OP himself stated, a very secular city where almost anything goes, e.g. strip clubs, prostitution, gay bars, and topless beaches. Most Israeli Jews are not very observant, and this is especially true in Tel Aviv. I suspect that if you kept poking around at those 6 Tel Aviv SCs you might uncover some extras and/or OTC possibilities.

I, too, grew up in the era of the untrimmed bush, but I was never a fan even in the 70s. I'm delighted that strippers shave "down there" nowadays and will only go down on a woman who has a landing strip or less.

I agree completely with londonguy: a bit flat-chested and hard in the face for my taste but a good personality would raise her from a 7 to an 8. The tattoo represents the date 9/12/2013, which I surmise is meaningful to her as the death date of a beloved family member or the like.

It does seem a bit douchey to bask in the glory of being preferred by your CF "the nano second she realized I had arrived" and in the abandoned customer's anger. You could easily be in his shoes on another occasion -- what goes around comes around. I was once doing a couple of $20 lap dances with an exceptionally beautiful stripper who was also reputed to be extra[s]-friendly in the VIP room. As soon as her regular entered the club, she finished our second dance and headed directly to him without explanation. I wasn't mad at him at all -- in fact, my attitude was "Good for him to land such a hottie as CF" -- but I vowed to myself never to spend another dollar on her, except for tips at the stage. There are right and wrong ways for a dancer to show her preference for a regular over an occasional visitor (as I was at the time), and her choice of the wrong way has cost her many hundreds if not thousands of dollars from me over the last few years. In the meantime I've become a regular at that club and am sometimes the guy that my favorites will leave occasional customers for to spend time with -- but they do it nicely.

@25, you're kinda the turd in the punch bowl with this charming remark: "^^^ I guess Deuce feels getting women to take money from men is an accomplishment! ;)" Are you sure you're not letting Douchester or RandomAsshole ghost-write for you?

As a longtime practitioner of the art of the lapgasm, I sometimes say "That last dance was an excellent idea!". After many hundreds of lapgasms, I've still never asked for one and only once encountered a dancer who objected. They know what they're doing, especially the great grinders, and aren't surprised when it happens.

Thanks for sharing! I agree -- your tits are definitely top quartile. In many clubs, they would be top 10%. Assuming that your face isn't hideous and you don't stink, I think *lots* of guys would want to get lap dances from you. I certainly would!

I always hear that OTC is more readily available near the end of the month, and I understand why that might be true, but AFAIK the timing of my 20-some OTC dates has been random. That's because in general I don't see a stripper OTC until we've spent several afternoons together ITC, talking and drinking and doing dances or VIPs, so that the OTC date happens when we're both ready and not because it's the 29th of the month.

I've had 20-some OTC dates in the past couple of years with five strippers and I'm certain that not a single one of them officially considers herself a prostitute. I prefer not to think of it that way myself, but in my heart of hearts -- and in theirs -- any exchange of money for sexual services has to be regarded as prostitution. With the two of them that I've had most of those dates with, I've actually engaged in a conversation or two about why what we're doing is *not* prostitution. What it boils down to is that a meal in a nice restaurant plus making out turns it from paid sex into a date. So in their minds (and mine, I suppose), some food and GFE make the difference!

When I started clubbing in my 40s, I would occasionally meet a dancer slightly older than me. Now, in my 60s, *all* dancers are at least 20 years younger. (Well, except at C-Mowe's in Washington Park, IL!) As long as the DJ plays rock or pop music, there's a good chance that I can identify it, but if it's either country or "urban", I'm hopeless. I tend to avoid conversational topics that would emphasize the vast gap in our knowledge or experience, such as politics and religion. There's always something to talk about: movies, concerts, restaurants, . . . If all else fails, I tell some of my infinite trove of dirty jokes -- they're ageless!

I'm a regular at Club Rio. Yes, it is a semi-reliable extras club. No other club in Indy comes close!

You have nothing to worry about, especially since Hustler and Scarlett's are right by the I-64 exit. As a WP veteran (50+ visits in four years), I'll go to any of the clubs there at any time, but it's not for the faint of heart.

I must pick unusually reliable strippers for OTC, or we know each other so well that I can count on them to appear, but I've made 23 OTC dates with 5 different strippers and they have *all* showed up! They're usually a half hour to an hour late, but they always make it. The first time a stripper agrees to OTC with me and doesn't appear, she'll be off my list.

We ask ourselves this question every day, wildbourbon: why TF is this idiot on TUSCL if he never visits strip clubs and disapproves of what we [more or less] normal PLs do in them? My conclusion: no other discussion board will have him.

I've seen 5 strippers a total of 23 times OTC in the past two years and don't think you should be unduly worried. In every case but one, we had already done a number of VIPs ITC and had a high level of comfort with each other, so seeing each other OTC was a natural progression. Even the exception went well: just before Thanksgiving I messaged a dancer who is a FB friend but was otherwise unknown to me, asking her if she was working the next night. She said she was but that we could also meet for "private fun". As I was on my way to her club the next night she messaged me again to tell me that the club was dead but that she would meet me for drinks and we would take it from there. Since she doesn't drink alcohol (!), we met at a Denny's, got to know each other over breakfast food and iced tea, and then retired to my nearby hotel room for a nice blowie. Now she's in my OTC rotation! My advice is: * Get to know the girl first. Make sure she's local and has been at the club for a while. * Don't pay up front! * Meet her at a restaurant or in the hotel lobby so that she doesn't have the room number long in advance. If you already know and trust her, even this last bit of advice is unnecessary. With my regular OTC girl the last few months, I check into a motel in her city at noon, text her the room number, and she's there to pleasure me within half an hour. Now that I look at it, I see that my advice is essentially identical to Rick Dugan's. That's OK -- seeing strippers doesn't have to be complicated or dangerous. Just don't take stupid chances.

I avoid seeing married strippers, or strippers living with boyfriends, outside the club. Inside the club I don't care about their relationship status and will go as far with them as their rules allow. Of the 5 dancers that I've seen OTC over the past two years, four were either divorced or never married. The exception was my "virtual shit storm of chaos" girl last year (about whom I wrote an article). The "brother" who dropped her off at my hotel at 1:30am (and picked her up again at 3:30am)a turned out to be her husband! I did actually see her one more time after that for a sleepover but the situation was just too fucking weird for my taste.

Well damn -- this is pretty enlightening! I have a fake Facebook account, just for interacting with strippers, on which I have 50+ friends, all of whom are either strippers or SC employees. I find it useful for arranging club visits or even OTC dates by Messenger. I also have an Instagram account, primarily for posting stripper-related humor, that is followed by several dozen, including a lot of my stripper FB friends. I hadn't even considered getting involved with Snapchat, but now I think I will! Another revelation of this thread is Subraman's claim that most strippers at least toy with the idea of being a sugar baby. I've never thought about sugaring, though my rent-for-dates deal with my ATF for a few months last year was comparable. I must say, I've found it surprisingly easy to advance in less than two years from my first OTC date ever to currently knowing at least 10 strippers, ranging in age from 19 to 33, who have expressed a willingness to meet me in a hotel room or in their apartment.

Yeah, I admit it -- I fell love with my ATF last year and was certainly wrapped around her little finger for a long time, paying pretty much whatever she wanted for a series of admittedly wonderful overnight dates. Eventually I figured out that I was nothing but a source of income to her, that all the affection was on my side and all the greed on hers, and I've been trying to get over her for a *long* time. I'm still not all the way there, but It helps that I've acquired another regular OTC girl in recent months that I'm quite fond of without being in love with, so I can just enjoy our romps without getting all emotional about it.

I get compliments all the time about my jokes and how much they enjoy talking with me. They also compliment how I caress them with my soft hands, especially (in some cases) how I grab their asses. Not every word that comes out of a stripper's mouth is SS!

I do sometimes appreciate a stripper with a direct approach, such as: * I have no gag reflex * I want to drain your balls today * When was the last time someone deep-throated you?

Yes, of course: be polite and send her a Thanksgiving text. I try to stay on good terms with all of my extras and OTC girls. You never know when you might want to get together with one of them. So basically -- what lopaw said!

I normally don't converse much with other customers except at my usual nighttime club, where I always sit at a stageside table and tip every dancer. Since these tables seat four, I sometimes join or am joined by others and will exchange pleasantries. One old dude (like 70+ -- sorry, shadowcat!) regaled me a few months ago with tales of the many strippers from that club that he had fucked over the years!

I have multiple CFs at two different clubs and they *all* know my name. Actually they all know my "stripper name" -- my real first name is uncommon, and I don't want any chance of overlap between my SC life and my real life, so I have used a stripper name for 20+ years. In all these years, only my ATF knew my real first and last names, and only because I occasionally advanced her money by Walmart moneygram.