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13 years ago
I think all of you are kidding yourselves. Do you think the cops don't know what "FS" or "BBBJ" or "great action" means? Give me a break. There has never EVER been a single post on this website that was "News" to anyone in LE.
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13 years ago
No, never feel obligated. The only time I would feel that at all would be if the place was packed and there was a line outside. As long as I'm not preventing the next guy from sitting down, I don't feel guilty.
If a dancer comes over, however, and says "would you like some company", I do feel some obligation if I let her join me. So, if I don't want LDs that night, I'll say "sure, but I'm not planning to get any dances. Happy to buy you a drink, though" (assuming I even want her to sit down). If she does stay for a while and acts nice I'll give her a nice tip, too.
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13 years ago
Y'all need to move to Detroit. I had a "bad" LD recently... gorgeous blond, one of the best I've ever seen at Bogarts... large, firm, perky tits... heavy grinding, stick shifting, kept asking if she could take Mr. Happy out, tits fully available, and I'm thinking she's a little too mechanical... almost wrote a bad review. Thanks for reminding me how lucky I am.
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13 years ago
You win hands down. I don't even need to read about any of the other nominations. An extra $500 or so? $1500 for the date, with nothing but dinner?
My advice - if she's on your mind, just go out and spend some time with other dancers. Don't become a regular - just make sure you get a fair return on every transaction, and don't get emotionally involved. If you're not getting a fair shake (no joke intended) just leave or look for someone else.
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13 years ago
That has to be a joke... can anyone say "Definitely NOT Green Vegas"???
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13 years ago
What exactly is "odd" about this story?
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13 years ago
Dancer at Bogart's in Detroit told me she had 3 sisters who also dance, and all four were working one night when the mother came in, and shouted loudly, "I taught all these bitches to strip!" Question: is it nature or nurture?
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13 years ago
Is JudyJudy still around? Always enjoyed her comments... and penchant for cum-taste- improving recipes.
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13 years ago
gmd, this sounds like a real possibility...
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13 years ago
OTC: "outside the club", normally sex for $$$.
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13 years ago
Deogol, Who tells you cars, houses, and income don't mean anything? LOL
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13 years ago
Pay YOU? are you crazy? Good luck with that.
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14 years ago
my guess is that the curtains were soaked with beer, vomit, sweat, perfume, lubricant, air freshener, and semen, and had to be sent out for cleaning.
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14 years ago
Brits and Americans are two peoples separated by a common language.
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14 years ago
It seems that every SCer has preferences for how they like to be approached, etc. I always lol when someone writes that a certain location in a club prevents "sneak attacks".
I find the whole subject of how dancers approach customers, especially new (to them) customers, to be very interesting. Honestly, some of them are just clueless, but they still seem to make a living so some customers must be responding to it.
In my experience there are a number of categories:
1. Drive-by "Wannadance?" Duh. This rarely works with me, unless the dancer has certain assets that I really like or I have already decided via long-distance observation that she is worth a try. I find these dancers usually fall into two categories; the desperate ones who don't think they have time to waste and have to move on, and the really hot ones with a lot of regulars who know they can find another customer right away if I turn them down.
2. Politely standing by "Do you want some company?" is a notch above "wannadance" - immediately I give her some credit for subtlety, and having the patience and faith in her own skills of persuasion to invest some time, as well as the politeness. I also find, however, that if I answer "yes" to this question that I then feel an obligation to either get some dances or give a nice tip just for talking. So, unless I'm already half sold I'll immediately say I'm waiting for someone or not planning to get any dances.
3. "How's your day going?" as she slides into the next seat without waiting to be asked. This is either a sign of desperation or the mark of a professional - someone who knows she may not be your type, but thinks she can charm herself into a few dances. A few months ago there was a discussion here about a discussion on the pink site, where dancers were complaining that custies say "I'm not interested" before they even sit down, and how mad that makes them. So, I normally exchange some polite small talk before "thanks for stopping by, but I'm waiting for someone... and I don't want you to waste your charms on me." Because they didn't ask before sitting down, however, I don't feel any obligation for dances or tip. Sometimes I get a miffed "did I ask for dances?" but they relax when I say "I'm just trying to be honest and save you some time."
At Bogart's the entrance to the VIP is near one end of the bar, and there are a few tables against the wall on the other side of the steps. From there it is interesting to observe the dancers leading their customers to the VIP; some look like they are dreading it, others just look bored; some are strutting with a look of triumph in their eyes; some are holding the guy's hand and hauling them along, afraid they're going to change their minds... and the really smart, sales-savvy ones are walking confidently, making eye contact with guys along their path, smiling, winking, pursing their lips, saying with their eyes, "Don't you wish it was you I was taking upstairs? You can be next." This is one way to separate the real pros from the clueless ones!
Also at Bogarts is a long-timer named Renee. She is not the best looking dancer around, by far; if you saw her on the street I doubt very much that "stripper" would be the first thing that came to mind. She also goes for the little girl look a lot - two pony tails and a little plaid skirt, for example, which I don't personally like. What she is, however, is a master of her craft. She is so good at generating revenue that they let her come in at 10 or 10:30, when normally the dancers get fined for being late. When approaching a customer, she leans in and touches them in a very intimate way - not a coarse crotch grab, but an arm around the neck, a brush of a bare flesh against the arm, etc., and says "hey baby..." She stares into your eyes, and makes you feel like you're the only man in the world. Few men can resist, and off to the VIP they go. Of course the fact that extras are almost expected doesn't hurt either... anyway, it is fun watching her work the room, just like it is fun to watch an athlete who is at the top of their sport.
Enough off-subject jabbering...
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14 years ago
CTQWERTY, it's been that way for a while. Open ur eyes.
Bogart's VIP used to work at Henry's, H8S, and John's. Not sure what's happening now that Hamilton is in the great SC in the sky.
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14 years ago
too much hardware
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14 years ago
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You could have tried "Is that slut (insert her name) still working there? She makes me gag."
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14 years ago
just a bunch of undernourished pencils. I prefer women with some curves, top and bottom. nothing above a 6 here.
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14 years ago
Once had a dancer switch to an inverted position during a dance... she put her hands on the floor, her thighs on mine, and waved her butt in my face. Smell of feces was so strong I was really tempted to cry out "clean up on aisle #2", which I personally thought was hilarious, but didn't think she would appreciate so I just asked to turn around.
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14 years ago
Talked to a dancer named Anastasia once. Asked her if she had seen the movie with Yul Brynner and Ingrid Bergman... blank stare. Never heard of either one. She picked the name based on the Disney version...
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14 years ago
No, but she did get a nice tip.
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14 years ago
There are other forms of honesty as well. I like dancers who give accurate updates on the song count and ask if you want to keep going.
I was stroking a dancer and she was acting like she was really enjoying it... the song ended and she asked if i wanted to continue, and I said I better not, or I'd end up washing dishes. She said "Damn... can you keep going until I cum? No charge." 2 songs later we both left happy.
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14 years ago
dude, nobody cares.
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15 years ago
Clean up on aisle two!!!