2011 PL of the year nomination

You win hands down. I don't even need to read about any of the other nominations. An extra $500 or so? $1500 for the date, with nothing but dinner?

My advice - if she's on your mind, just go out and spend some time with other dancers. Don't become a regular - just make sure you get a fair return on every transaction, and don't get emotionally involved. If you're not getting a fair shake (no joke intended) just leave or look for someone else.

In addition to what stripclubspy had to say, never intentionally overpay a dancer. A simple tip is all you need to be well-appreciated. And yes, you really fell for a scam. She got you hook, line, and sinker. Hope you're wise enough not to fall into this trap again.

I'm almost speechless. You spent more money in a couple of visits than I make in a month so yes you win the title hands down. If you were just spending it on dances, I might say to each his own. But to just send her $500 because she demanded it and you weren't even getting any extras out of it is the definition of the Ultimate PL. She played you and you have to learn from it.

well i'm half drunk from bar hopping tonight (regular bars) so my judgement is a little bit clouded atm, but i have to agree that you have entered rare air territory that i can't even begin to fanthom, but still i'll bet that some are out there that have surpassed you.

you were played bigtime though, and even though you seem to know it you still let it happen. honestly you give us sane guys (although when i read what some of the guys here throw away $$$ at times i wonder how many are really sane) a bad name.

there's still hope for you though because you woke up before paying her 1,500 dollars (???? YIKES FOR A FRIGGEN DATE?) so maybe you aren't a total lost cause.

you want advice?
get your head screwed on right before you enter a strip club or talk to any stripper, especially the rob in this story again!!!!

or better yet, meet me at a club with your wad of cash and let me blow it on strippers while i show you what not to do. at least one of us will gain from it.

$1000 a visit? I'm envious that you make a whole lot more than me. I think I'm spending a lot if I spend $100 on a single dancer but I'm buying dances if I spend that much and getting a lot of them as well.

Don't beat yourself up. You liked this girl, but she turned out to be a scam artist. What you need to do is find another dancer who will treat you right and not take advantage of you.

My suggestion is that you find a new club and become a regular. But don't confine yourself to one girl and don't pay extra. Become friendly with 3 or 4 girls and get dances with all of them, and then they will know they have to compete for your time and dollars. Never let a dancer know you're hooked on her because then she'll take advantage. Never pay in advance for a date. Learn what the market price for OTC sex is, and don't pay more. There are plenty of dancers who will be glad to take your money and also treat you fairly and respectfully.

Another piece of advice for what it's worth. Being nice and polite to dancers is, I think, to your advantage. But when asking them out, it's not to your advantage to tell them you just want a date and not sex. They know you want sex. We all know you want sex. Let them know you will spend money on them but you expect something in return.

Well! I have always considered myself to be tuscl's ultimate PL. You are a worthy usurper of the title I had already granted to myself. I retire graciously and cede my crown to you, supertramp79.

Wear it in sheepishness and red-faced embarrassment.

I nominate the award be renamed the Supertramp79 award as nobody could top that. It needs to be immortalized like Cy Young in baseball!

@supertramp79

PL of the year? "Bloody Well Right!" I can understand wanting to "Give a Little Bit", but $1,000 a night is not very "Logical." The girl really took you to "School," but I'm guessing you're kind of a "Dreamer." You certainly "Took the Long Way Home," but glad you finally decided to tell her, "Goodbye Stranger."

Finally, some words of wisdom (which you may already be familiar with):

"Feel no sorrow, feel no shame, come tomorrow, feel no pain Sweet devotion, it's not for me, just give me motion and set me free"

^^^^^^^^

An absolute CLASSIC !! Well done, steve229.

steve229, consider me suitably awestruck.

If your are looking for an arguement, you came to the wrong place.

We do learn by out mistakes.

Thanks for the advice, and humor - I appreciate it.

Steve 229 - Masterful!!

Famerart - that means a lot coming form you :)

Troop - I appreciate the offer.

Honestly, I would love to meet up with any of you and learn in person from a pro. I will fund a fun day or night of activities just for the learning experience. Even though I try to learn from what you all write on here, I would love to see it in action and learn from the best. I get around a lot, so please PM me if you would be willing to meet somewhere to show me the best way to work a club.

And, thanks as always for your willingness to share!!

Is your company hiring? For that kind of money you could have a revolving door of high end escorts and porn stars when they're touring.

Why would the PL of the year be reading TUSCL if he did he wouldn't be the PL of the year

Do you make enough to support that level of spending, or were you in the process of depleting your savings and/or going into debt by doing it?

i refuse to believe this story. if i did, i think i'd be the p.l.

The phrase "irrational exuberance" comes to mind. Just a thought...never, ever go into a casino.

WTF! An hour wiith a pornstar could be had for $500.

Take it on the chin, and don't make the mistake again. Getting over her is the easy part, as there will always be someone hotter, funnier, far more charming and seductive. The hard part will be regaining your dignity.

Ha! "Goodbye Stranger" love it!

Gillydon: No debt or depleted savings. Part of my problem is I got a great new job here with good pay so I justified my spending that way.

I was also looking for someone to hang out with regularly - more of a relationship type thing - and that was part of my downfall. That's why the pornstar alternative doesn't really work for me.

Imnumnut - sorry to disappoint you, but this one is true - I guess sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

harrydave - I don't gamble - thankfully.

Supertramp. next time you feel your wallet flying open with this or any girl. repeat over and over; "I'm not an ATM for this girl, I'm not an ATM for this girl"

Pay the customary fee for the time spend/services (dances etc) that's reasonable and tip well, but what struck me especially, besides the amounts in general handed over, was the wiring of funds to her.

supertramp: Hire me as your wingman. For a nominal fee, I'll advise you when I see you're about to donsomething stupid. :)

The advice to learn and move on is the best.

wow. just wow.

Write down on a piece of paper how much you spent during this extravaganza. Total it up, and write down what you still have, or what you accomplished from spending this amount.

Then write down a list of material things you could have acquired for that amount, and material things you could have acquired for half that amount. Then annualize the total amount.

That's it. It's an exercise in "perspective". You probably got a great-paying job because you are able to analyze things. So analyze this. There's no shame in the SC hobby; but you need to pay a reasonable price for both your physical and emotional needs. Otherwise, it becomes destructive.

There is no glory in wearing the PL Champ crown for more than a year.

Everyone is so wrong. She is only just making sure you are the one for her. You just need to hang in there, keep giving and giving, and you will surely win her over. Just at her pace, not yours. So don't think of others or visit other clubs. Keep after her. It's only money! TIC

PL of the year, and... is it too soon to start talking about a Lifetime Achievement Award? While we're at it, how about an award for the dancer, for separating a PL from so much money so easily?

LOL Clubber!

I haven't been to a strip club for years and years. Why? I was a major PL to some girl. These days, I think of the other things I could have done with that money. It was a lot of money too, like supertramp it ended up being thousands and thousands. Now, I have no idea where she is, etc.

For the moment you realize you blew a lot of money. Later on, you will realize you blew a lot of time.

From her perspective, I was probably the biggest stupidest loser SOB in the world. When I realized that, I quit going to strip clubs. Between those three things, it just wasn't fun anymore.

Well, I've blown a lot of money, too, and blown a lot of time as well. In return, I've gotten blown a lot.

I think it's a fair trade. YMMV.

Yes, georgmicrodong, for what you trade, it is a fair trade.

But like Supertramp, I was stupidly looking for something else in the club. I was far to open minded. It was a nicer world when I was naive, but those days are over.

No, it wasn't really a nicer world. You just didn't know about all the nastiness. :)

damn, if a woman wants $1.5K from me, she's going to be doing a lot more than setting across from me eating dinner! fuck, for that price, I know a few women who'd do a whole night's worth of 'a lot more', for that matter. wow, dude, you need to watch how you spread that cash.