Comments by chitownlawyer (page 8)

Unquestionably. It's just like going out with a girl in high school. I find that with dancers you have a "regular" relationship with, you can just pick up where you left off the last time. Example: with one dancer, it took about five times of getting dancers from her before she would take off her g-string with me. Now it comes off before she starts dancing, as soon as we hit the VIP area.

Shadow, I guess the ROB list idea captured the concept what you described.

I hadn't thought about either of those characters since I put them on "ignore" status over a year ago...

My experience is that Oasis Goodtime Emporium can offer very high mileage, but it is relatively expensive, and really a roll of the dice, depending on which dancer you take into the private booths. Tip: Again, just based on my own experience: Forget the dancers, and focus on the shot girls.

Count the silver. The rumor I have heard behind the persecution of Treasures in Houston about six months ago is that a local judge picked up a dancer there and took him to her home. The next day, while the judge was persumably occupied at the courthouse, the dancer returned to his house with several of her thug boyfriends and cleaned the place out. The hard times that Treasures underwent thereafter were supposedly retaliation. (Pussy lawyerly disclaimer: I don't know if any of the above is accurate). I have also read that the dancer/escort Bianca Trump was busted for the same type of thing....returning to a trick's house to rob it. Stuff to think about. For most guys, their residence is their only foolproof sanctuary. I would think a long time about exposing that sanctuary to someone who inhabits or frequents a world as sketchy as strip clubs (a clasas that includes, now that I think about it, your Humble Correspondent...).

I've only been to Industrial Strip twice, but I didn't find any more black girls than at any other club I've been to (except for one in Atlanta, where they were all black...)

What Shadowcat said, with emphasis on the fact that you don't ask, just do. In the words of Little Alex of "A Clockwork Orange": "Then it occurred to me: 'Thinking is for the gloopy ones. A leader must act."

If the initial press is correct, I won't be getting any of it. If I do, I will put it in a fund for my next trip to Tijuana.

I only have good associations with shot girls, because the only club I have seen them at are Oasis Goodtime Emporium in Atlanta. I find the dancers at that club to be sort of hard, pneumatic, "uber-Barbi" types, whereas the shot girls are the cute little "girl next door" types, a la Jennifer Love Hewitt, that I like--so they are the ones I go back to VIP with when I am at that club. However, the experience you describe certainly does sound annoying.

A horribly non-PC joke from the '70s: Did you hear about the inventor who was half-Japanese and half-Polish? He invented a miniaturized vibrator!!!

I work off an annual budget. Because I am self-employed, I also budget revenue coming in, which is good discipline, although I am almost always unduly pessimistic about how much I will make during the current year. I have a budget that is more "strategic" than "tactical". It contains about eight items, and the amount I will spend on them for the entire year: "living Expenses"; Wife's 401(k); My SEP/IRA, etc. Because I am also debt-free, and only have to pay current expenses like groceries, electricity, telephone, etc., it makes a "big picture" budget like this more feasible than if I had a lot of individual monthly expenses. On a monthly basis, I fill in a chart that shows how close I am to goal on each item, and how much more money I need for each during the current year. The only bad thing about this kind of annual budgeting method is that it looks scary this time of the year, as the numbers seem huge. One effect of this is that I tend to be very miserly during the beginning of the year, then loosen up as I start to meet the various goals. For example, I have only been to a strip club once this year (other than a brief trip to Thee Dollhouse, Tampa, on New Year's Day, and that wassn't "entertainment", but "research". I hope to resolve this miserliness next week during a trip to the #2 TUSCL club.

Why on Earth would it be illegal? I assume it was being used as a "personal massager", "great for relieving the pain of sore muscles"...just like it says on the box. Some people have dirty minds...

As someone who has enjoyed a lot of good times at BBF in the past, I am sorry to see the loss of $10 couch dance, which was kind of a trademark of the place. However, it has become a little more rough over the past couple of years, at least on the visits when I was there. My Indy trips have alternated between Dancers and BBF, each with its own signature girls. Although I don't go there as much now that I spend more time in ESL clubs, BBF is the site of so many SC firsts for me--first DFK with a dancer, first real extra in a club, first OTC--that it will always hold a special place in my heart, even if I never set foot in the place again. I was very impressed on one visit when the doorman came over to me with a $20. bill. He pointed to the manager, Jerry, and said, "He told me to give this back to you. It fell out of your pocket." Not sure how many strip clubs--courthouses--churches--that would happen in.

No cooties for me, thanks.

I have known dj's to torture dancers by intentionally playing undanceable songs. I remember being in BBF with Chandler when he had the good fortune to be getting a couch dance when the song was "LA Woman". Is that 9:00 minutes long, Chandler?

FONDL, I didn't have you or anyone else in particular in mind regarding my description of the archetypal "anti-Chitown".

Yes, I resolved to cut back on my strip club visits. In fact, I even made a deal with myself that, in exchange for foregoing strip club visits from 12/21 to mid-January, I would make a trip to Tijuana. While in Florida on vacation on New Years' Day, I went to Thee Dollhouse in Tampa, but this didn't count, as it was for research, and to contribute the fund of knowledge on this Board. Besides, it wasn't all that good. (see review) However, this last Sunday, 1/6, I found myself in my local club, hitting VIP with a new dancer. So, my resolution lasted all of 16 days, counting from the day it was made in December. But I'm still going to Tijuana to tour the #2 TUSCL-listed club.

Some of the guys here who have met strippers OTC have a healthy emotional interest in the strippers, and want to know them as people. They become friends with the dancer, and a relationship outside the club follows naturally. That approach is highly commendable. It also has little our nothing to do with my interest in strippers, which involve only sex. I have found that the best approach for me is to be known as a regular at a club, to the point where accomodating members of management will, if properly approached and after a relationship has developed, point out out for you the girls who will do OTC. Proportionately, this has been the most rewarding approach for me. A distant second is waiting for the dancer to approach you, which has also worked. Fear of arrest and/or expulsion from the club has prohibited me from taking the "direct approach" on pay-for-play, but perhaps I am overly timid. I have no interest in getting to know strippers as serious, OTC friends, as I find that they tend to have almost frighteningly dramatic lives that I don't want to deal with. I don't cultivate such people as friends when they don't disrobe for me, and I don't see any reason to react differently in the case of people with soap opera lives who I also happen to have seen naked.

1. Yes, uncovered full service. 2. Yes, This is an issue I wrestle with constantly. (Seriously) 3. Yes. 4. Yes, I am like you, at least in these three matters.

At one of our local courthouses, located in a county that has a number of AMPs, Korean women will occasionally show up in courthouse on sex-related charges, or such charges as disorderly conduct (which presumably involve some sort of sexual misconduct.) Word is that the charges are dismissed without prejudice by the State, and the girls are taken by the AMP operators to the St. Louis airport, to take the next plane to some other metropolitan area...to be replaced by others, including girls who got in trouble in the last town in which _they_ were working...

I can only think of two strippers who would give me BBBJ to completion, but multiple times with each. One of them would lean forward, toward me, and spit in over my shoulder into a corner behind the sofa on which I was sitting. The other swallowed, as she really had to, since she would say to me, "Will you cum in my mouth?; it's yummy." After that inducement, she could hardly spit it out. She only insisted that I then buy her an adult drink to get the taste out. Alas, she got knocked up last summer by another customer, and went back to Iowa. When I was a high school lad, my girlfriend insisted on french kissing after a blowjob, on the theory that if she was good enough to give me a blowjob, she was good enough to be kissed after giving it. On the other hand, she had done a good job of swallowing, although I suppose I got "essence of spunk." However, she did not purposefully keep any of my load in her her mouth just to make a point or to be vindictive. True story--a lady got pulled over by a cop, and was coerced into giving a blowjob to get out of the ticket. She held the baby-batter in her mouth, drove to a medical lab (she worked in the medical field, and knew where to go), and got the stuff analyzed. She then complained to the cops, and on the basis of a DNA test, the copper got fired. Better living through chemistry, as Dr. Chitown says (who, unfortunately, knows how to avoid making the spit-or-swallow decision).

I am with Chandler on this one. Part of the intrigue of lap dances is finding the limits, sort of like making out in high school. The ironic thing is that, when dancers have given me "the drill", their limits generally have not exceeded what I would have done anyway.

Return to Tijuana, for an eye-popping selection of those Latinas I love so much. (In a pinch, Houston or Dallas would also do).

They'll be plenty lonely and cold if you have to spend them in Quincy in January. I don't think there are any clubs in Quincy. The only clubs within even a couple of hours of Quincy are a clutch of clubs in Gulfport, Illinois, which is a little town across the River from Burlington, Iowa, and is about an hour and a half drive from Quincy. I've never been to any of the five clubs listed for that town, but the outlook seems pretty bleak, judging by the reviews posted. You'll probably have better luck seeing naked titties by hanging out in the bar at the Quincy Holiday Inn. Three weeks in Quincy. In January. Jesus Christ, I thought I had troubles. Thanks for picking me up.

Deferring my request for a trip to VIP, because "we are having such a nice conversation."