Possible Bad News for fans of BBF
DougS
Florida
I talked to my "near-ATF" this afternoon and when I asked her how she was doing, she said she wasn't too happy, and when she told me what was bothering her, >>I<< wasn't too happy.
Here's the scoop, according to her;
Yesterday, BBF mgmt informed the girls that there was going to be a change of rules. Right away, I guessed it was something to do with the contact allowed, but that wasn't the case - actually, I think THAT would have been better. She said that beginning next week, the VIP prices are being raised. Instead of the current pricing structure ($40 to the girl, $10 to the house for 30 min), it's going to be $75 to the girl and $25 to the house for $30. Can you say incredibly ridiculous?! I am a BIG VIP monger there and that pretty much puts it at a price level that makes it pretty much impossible to continue with my current practices. I HAVE to think that it will negatively affect their business.
Not only is the VIP pricing crazy, but as more people are spending less time in VIP, the couch area is going to be overflowing. Soon to follow, is probably going to be an increase in the couch dance price.
Additionally, the girls are now going to be charged a fee to work each night. It's minimal ($5), but still, it will impact the girls.
All of that makes me VERY glad that I've got a few OTC arrangements will most likely be used exclusively from this point on. Speaking of which, I have to think that the rate of OTCing among the girls there is going to experience a sky rocketing increase.
Here's the scoop, according to her;
Yesterday, BBF mgmt informed the girls that there was going to be a change of rules. Right away, I guessed it was something to do with the contact allowed, but that wasn't the case - actually, I think THAT would have been better. She said that beginning next week, the VIP prices are being raised. Instead of the current pricing structure ($40 to the girl, $10 to the house for 30 min), it's going to be $75 to the girl and $25 to the house for $30. Can you say incredibly ridiculous?! I am a BIG VIP monger there and that pretty much puts it at a price level that makes it pretty much impossible to continue with my current practices. I HAVE to think that it will negatively affect their business.
Not only is the VIP pricing crazy, but as more people are spending less time in VIP, the couch area is going to be overflowing. Soon to follow, is probably going to be an increase in the couch dance price.
Additionally, the girls are now going to be charged a fee to work each night. It's minimal ($5), but still, it will impact the girls.
All of that makes me VERY glad that I've got a few OTC arrangements will most likely be used exclusively from this point on. Speaking of which, I have to think that the rate of OTCing among the girls there is going to experience a sky rocketing increase.
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My Indy trips have alternated between Dancers and BBF, each with its own signature girls. Although I don't go there as much now that I spend more time in ESL clubs, BBF is the site of so many SC firsts for me--first DFK with a dancer, first real extra in a club, first OTC--that it will always hold a special place in my heart, even if I never set foot in the place again.
I was very impressed on one visit when the doorman came over to me with a $20. bill. He pointed to the manager, Jerry, and said, "He told me to give this back to you. It fell out of your pocket." Not sure how many strip clubs--courthouses--churches--that would happen in.
They'll end up like every other club 6 dancers on day shift and less than 6 customers.
If they follow through with this BBF will become just another average club - customers will stay away or avoid the VIP room or those who do use it will expect more contact, dancers will be pissed because they're making less money or having to do more, the party atmosphere that makes the place so special will be gone. This sort of thing is killing the industry. How can managers and owners be so dumb?
Forget about the economy, this is the sort of thing that's driving customers away from strip clubs. They're pricing themselves out of the market. They forget that they're competing with escorts and massage parlors and a whole lot of other adult activities, most of which are already cheaper.
Long term they cannot act "dumb" however shortterm they can do things that might appear dumb to outsiders, and some of this depends upon the entry barriers to opening competing strip joints - which in some markets is incredibly high, and their ability to retain existing customers and attract new ones willing to pay higher prices
Looks like I bypass Indy now and head to Kokomo's best club the HH.
I spent more than $50 in their VIP room. After having to pay $100 for the VIP, I ain't gonna' be flippin' "tens" or "fives"! The dancer will just have to perform well for me, if she wants a 30 minute VIP repeat.
This defineatly was the case for me after the Gold club raised it's prices. I had two changes in spending patterns. First I where previously it was pretty easy to spend $10 to try a new dancer out just on a whim after they went to $20 I would only dance with those I had previously had experiemnce with. Secondly when the 1/2 room was $50 I would always cover the $10 to the house and generally tip a $20 or more to bring my average dance cost in the 15-20 range. Once the room went to $125 for 1/3 hour I pretty much quit tipping. Eventually I just quit going. The dancers were used to providing a level of pre-dance conversation the fit a $10 model of ask and go, in other clubs with the same prcing they were used to a $20 dance conversation model and had more dancer option. After 9 months I decided the business model wasn't changing form the previous $10 level and only the prices had increase by 100% for dances or 150% for VIP. Seeing the value wasn't there I moved on.
Eventually the club suffers from lack of adult beverage sales or is full of groups of guys in the ir 20's looking for a party not dances.
Just like someone above state, their income MAY increase at the start, but it will be short lived.
Previously, when at BBF, I RARELY bought a couch dance. If a dancer caught my eye (or something else [wink]) while she was on stage, or while giving me a dollar dance, I would take her back to the VIP. I ALWAYS have been a good tipper for VIP service at BBF. Even though it was really just $40/30 min, I always viewed it as $50/30 to make calculations easier, and to compensate her for an enjoyable time. When it came time to tip her, I ALWAYS added even more money - on top of the $10 per 30 min that I'd already mentally included. If I'd spent a marathon session (multiple 30 min sessions) in VIP with her, which is usually the case, I would throw in another $50-$100 depending on how many hours we were back there.
Incidentally, today is THE day that the new rules go into effect. It will be interesting to see how things go. I talked to one of my BBF girls this morning and she is worried about it. In fact, she typically works the night shift, but today, she plans to do a mid-shift (4pm-12-ish), and will be reporting back to me.