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14 years ago
Inno: you know, I tried to think of what she MIGHT have said, if it wasn't bubble, but nothing came to mind. Your suggested "bulge" makes the most sense. In a noisy situation, bulge could sound like bubble - sort of.
Troop: yeah, that would have been the best approach. lesson learned!
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14 years ago
SD: I knew what you meant.. (and had a chuckle). I can only hope she will at some point eat SOMEthing off the pole, even if it's just her own saliva! But then again, she might not be interested in eating anything off of a bubble...
PAS: could be bank account.. would rather that, than having her thinking that I'm so small it could be considered a bubble!
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14 years ago
As close as you are to TJ, I think that's good advice. The strung out girls on the street are not worth risking the potential exposure to "health hazards", and maybe worse - getting caught in some sting operation!
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14 years ago
My new Fav is particularly skilled in that department. She takes it to the extent that it's pretty much a CBJ. To be honest, I'm surprised that the girls are allowed to do this. I was in the club last Wed, and the afore mentioned girl would spend five minutes at a time on her knees, nibbling, biting, blowing hot air and taking as much of me into her mouth as she could (I go commando with loose fitting pants, so she was able to at least get her mouth around the head) - all the while, she's stroking my balls and shaft. The sight alone of this exotic beauty on her knees, going at it like that, while I stroke her hair and lightly press her head further into my crotch... It's no wonder she has skyrocketed up my personal rankings!
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14 years ago
I'm 1.5 hrs away from the nearest club to which I venture. Because of that, establishing communication is a must because I sure as hell don't want to drive that distance without knowning who will be in the club. Because of that, when I find a girl that I want to pursue, I give them my business card. Usually I redact the cell number so that they only have my office phone. When I really am interested, she will get my cell number, too.
True, this isn't the wisest move. I have received calls and text at very shall we say inopportune times that have nearly resulted in problems on the home front, but so far, nothing too earth shattering.
If you are going to OTC, it's imperative to have a method of communication. There have been several times that without the phone connection the OTC probably wouldn't have happened 'cause the girl wasn't able to find my hotel.
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14 years ago
GMD... I've only had one girl approach me aggessively like that. It was the second time that we OTCed. I was in town for business and we had a standing "date" for everynight that week, so the first night I didn't want to pressure her and maybe screw my chances (err... poor choice of words), so we dank her Goldschlagger and she danced on me a little, we kissed a lot, but that was it.
On the second night, we picked up where we left off the night before. Again, I wasn't pressuring, and admittedly I can be too much of a gentleman sometimes, but we were having fun and there were promises of things getting better. At one point she went into the bathroom and I moved over to the bed. When she came out, she walked over to the bed and said "Okay bitch take your clothes off!" (yeah, she tended to talk ghetto-ish) I quickly obliged and she proceeded with probably THE best BJ I have EVER had - to this day. She definitely liked to be in control.
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14 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
GMD / Troop;
Actually the last time I had a hookup my my vehicle, it damned near became an catastrophic ITT.
It started out with a smokin' blonde at BBF, and some excellent dances and a smattering of dirty talk. I thought we had a good mix of chemistry flowing. I'd had more than my share to drink so a few things were fuzzy, but she started talking about how she got turned on when she gave "Wild Head" (I think that's what she called it.. when asked, she said it's suckin' a guy off while he's driving). I was all for being her "subject", and she promised to meet me after the club closed. We did quite a few dances, then she said she had a few other guys that she'd promised dances with, and that she'd meet me in the parking lot after 3am.
I was gettin' annoyed that she was spending time with the other guys (I hate sharing), but when the lights came up at 3am, she came by and said "see ya outside". I quickly headed to the parking lot and drove around to where the dancers park and waited. I saw girl after girl come out.. not her. The DJ was hangin' around - probably to see what I was up to. The security guard was watching, too. I started thinking that there was no way that she was going to come to my truck with all of these guys around. Then it hit me that she had never planned to meet me. No more girls were coming out, and I was sitting there feeling pretty silly fallin' for it.
About 3:40, I decided it was over... time to head back to my hotel. On the way back, I drove past a gas station that had a lower price than I had seen lately, so thought I might as well get some gas. As I stood there pumpin' gas (NOT what I wanted to be pumpin'!), I glanced up at the station, and in the convenience a blonde caught my attention. DAMN!, I thought to myself... nice hair...(my fetish)... so I decided to finish fillin' up and wait to see what she looked like. To my surprise, it was Miss Blonde from BBF ... the one that had stood me up. I intercepted her on the way to her car and said "Hi!". She looked pretty flustered. Probably didn't expect ME! She CLAIMED that she couldn't find me and thought >>I<< stood HER up! (whatever, yeah, right)
So I asked if we could complete our plans and she said sure, but we'd have to drive off separately and she'd meet me in the development around the corned.
I got into my truck and headed over there, again feeling stupid that I'd been setup again, but a few seconds later, I see her car turn into the development and pull up behind my truck. She got out and ran to my truck and got in. She said she really had to get home, but if I was quick we could go for it. I never asked how much she was expecting - didn't matter at that point! She said just start driving, and as I put it into get, she was unzippin' and before I'd driven 50 feet, she was givin' me some impressive oral. I never thought driving and receiving head could be so difficult! It didn't help that I wanted to watch her and see myself inside her gorgeous mouth. I was puttin' along about 20mph when she looked up and said,"no, you can't drive slowly... you have to drive FAST! That's what turns me on!"
So I started driving faster around this neighborhood, which had a lot of turns. I damned near missed a turn and was within inches of going over the curb and hitting the tree, which would have made this an ITT (Inside The Tree). It didn't take me long with the sight of her going down, and the skills she employed. I warned her but she just picked up her pace and took it all in. I had to pull over 'cause my legs were shakin' - she was that good. She looked up, smiled, opened her mouth to show what she had inside, then made a theatrical swallow, followed by an "mmmmmm".
I asked how much, she said what every I felt it was worth would be fine, but "at least $30". I gave her a hundred dollar bill and felt like it was a bargain. We drove back to her car, she got out and that was the last that I ever saw of her, and beleive me I've looked. Some said she got fired, some say she left... several said that she'd moved to this club or that (and I checked each one out)... never have found her.
THAT is one experience that I would definitely like to relive, and probably more exciting than a lot of OTC encounters that I've had.
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14 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I've never been invited home. All of my OTC encounters have been in a hotel, save a few hookups in my vehicle, though not sure that still qualifies as OTC.
I'm paranoid - and get more so the older I get, so I would never consider going to her place, even if the opportunity presented itself.
In regards to the money / living conditions of the average dancers, I think they have the POTENTIAL to make big bucks, and some do. Not to toss out more generalizations, but these girls don't always have the most common sense, and are not the type that would be frugal. They live for "NOW" and don't care about the future, thus they tend to blow (no pun intended) what money they make on cars, big screen TVs, clothes, drugs, and far too many are supporting loser BFs and/or husbands. You also have the girls that don't make much because they either don't hustle enough or just not attractive / talented enough.
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14 years ago
Actually, I ALWAYS offer to buy drinks for whatever girl I am spending time with. I buy the drinks to have a good time, not just to specifically to loosen her up, but that's usually an added benefit. Except with one of "my" girls.
Even though she's very thin, the dancer that I've spent the most time with lately can put the liquor away like there's no tomorrow. Holy Crap! We've been doing Jager Bomb shooter shots (quaffers). The last time, we did 11 of them, in addition to at least four rounds of drinks (I was drinking Bud Lights - not much choice at HH, and she was drinking her girly Sex On The Beaches). Admittedly, this was spread out over her shift (7pm to just about 3am), but DAMN! AND, I suspect she's doin' SOMEthing beside "tinkling" when she takes her occassional "dressing room break" for 15 min every few hours... weed, maybe?
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14 years ago
The only time that I've heard that phrase uttered in a way that meant "get naked", while in a "club", happened in Denver. The place was called Ladies en Confidente (LEC). It was another one of those business trips and the last club of the night (I was blasted and there was no other place open). It started out with a lot of promise - figured if I was naked SOMEthing was going to happen, but as it turned out, it was self-service only. Very little touching, and more frustrating than pleasurable.
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14 years ago
MANY years ago, the first club I ever visited (The Torch) in South Bend, had a shower to the left of the stage and was used for shower shows. Guys would toss money over the glass shower walls and the girls would umm...wash. Actually, they'd pretend to be "doing things" to each other, but if you looked closely (and I DID! [wink]) you could tell nothing was really happening. They'd also use white shower gel and pretend it was cum running down their bodies.
It was still fairly entertaining. BUT, keep in mind, this was my first experience at a club, and I really wasn't that impressed. (of course who WOULD be impressed with The Torch?! Unforunately, I missed the days when the place was more of a brothel than a strip club. Hell, now it doens't even pass for a strip club!)
Side note: It wasn't until about five years later that I REALLY discovered strip clubs and what they can be. It was on a business trip to Philly, and a girl at Cheerleaders was able to empty my wallet. I was hooked from that day on.
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14 years ago
After a long absence from the club scene, I returned with a vengeance about two months ago and have been hitting HH about every other week. I've developed several "agreements" with a few of my favorite girls.
I have a set amount that I'm willing to pay for the night. Any of my "girls" will spend the entire shift with me, with the majority of the time at The Wall for that set amount. It makes it a lot easier 'cause there's no fretting about song count, etc. At the end of the shift, we settle up. If you were to break it down by a per/song amount, it's ridiculously cheap for what I'm enjoying.
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14 years ago
HH is all about the "Love Corners." Just to the right of the bar are two corners of The Wall, both of which tend to be very dark. (heck, the whole place is dark, but especially those corners) The aggressive dancers will head for one of those corners if available.
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14 years ago
Wow... it's been years since I hit the Inkster clubs and it sounds as though things have gotten much more interesting. When in town, Bogarts and H8s are my usual stops and have had great times in the past. It might be time to visit the Livonia plant for work and get some Inkster SC time worked in.
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14 years ago
Everyone is spot on so far. Both of the main recommendations are high on my list... I have spent many an hour at both places. Personally, you can't go wrong with either choice.
If you want higher quality - both the ambience and the girls (looks-wise), I'd say Brad's Brass Flamingo (BBF) should be your choice. BBF is definitely more "upscale" than Kokomo's Hip Hugger (HH), but it's far from classy. Yes, the girls are slightly hotter, but to be honest, on a typical visit, it's not THAT different. In MY opinion, on avg., the girls at BBF are 7-8, with a 9 or two thrown in. At HH, the avg. is probably 6-7, with a several 8's and maybe one 9.
If you are looking for mileage, I'd vote for HH. There's definitely a noticeable difference, but both places are great and enjoyable.
As far as extras go, so many variables come into play, but I know they can be had either place, both ITC and OTC, but usually only an option for fairly long-time regulars. (again, depending on many variables)
As was previously mentioned, HH is a fairly short drive up 31 - less than an hour from BBF.
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14 years ago
I always tip the waitress well... buy a beer for $4, waitress get's $2. I want the drinks flowing and I want quick service if I'm looking to buy a drink for a dancer. It doesn't hurt for the waitress to know you are a good tipper. If she talks, dancers will listen. It's not bad to be known as a good tipper, and if the wait staff likes you, it will help break that ice with the dancers. (much better than getting a rep for being stingy and unfriendly) We go to the club to have fun, but if the dancers and wait staff can have fun working with/for you, it makes everyone happier.
I haven't relied much on waitresses "helping out", but almost everytime I'm at the club, I will send one on a mission to find out if a certain stripper is working, or to pass a message off to someone. (usually pass a fin for their trouble)
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14 years ago
Personally, I'd prefer to be the one doing the approaching. If I'm interested, I will be coming to the stage and tipping (and usually not just a buck or two). If I spot a girl on the floor that I'm interested in, I will wait for an opportunity to get her attention, or send a waitress or another dancer off to pass a message to her.
If a dancer approaches me, then I'd like it to be a low-key, introduction and "how 'ya doin'?" kind of greeting, rather than the "wanna dance?" crap. That gives ME the chance to ask for a dance, if I'm interested.
I also don't like it when girls just sit their ass down at my table. It never frickin' fails that some fugly will plop her but down at my table, just as a dancer that I AM interested in walks past.
There's a chick at Hip Hugger that I find repulsive. TOTALLY not my type and every time I'm in the club, I refuse dances with her and refuse to tip her when she's on the "Boobies for a Buck" parade (now THAT is another thing that I hate, but that's a different post). Even after being ALMOST rude to her, she still comes by at least once a night and somehow sneaks onto my lap (don't know how she does that), and whispers in my ear - usually something like "let's go fuck in the corner" (seriously) and all I can think of is "get the crap off my lap!" You'd THINK she'd get the message by now, wouldn't you?!!!
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14 years ago
I've long had hair fetish (started when I was in kindergarten, but that's a different story). I love long, straight, silky / shiny hair! A few years back, my ATF had long, silky hair to the middle of her back and I loved it! Her hair was what first caught my attention, and one of several things that kept me coming back, over and over again.
Without warning, she showed up one day with her hair cut to shoulder length. She was apologetic about it 'cause she knew how I felt about long hair.
Funny thing.. she was pretty enough to pull off the short hair look and I found myself still tremendously attracted to her. I also found that she opened my eyes to shorter hair.
As has been said, it is rare that a girl can look good with shorter hair.
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14 years ago
I wouldn't call it intimidating, but I would not be interested in a girl that tall, smokin' hot or not. I am 5'10", and have always preferred girls that are around 5'6"... kind'a feel like I can be their "protector" and take care of them, you know?
It's a turn off to me, if I have to look up to her, even if it's just because of her shoes. One of my recent girls of choice is 5'8", which is a little on the tall side - but she's nearly perfect in every other way. She knows to stay barefooted during our sessions, and is always removing them as soon as we get to the dancing area - leaving them off until I head back to the table afterwards. With her shoes on, she's usually 2" taller, depending on the shoes.
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14 years ago
GMD: I haven't been on this board for sometime, so bear with me if this has already been answered. Are you enoying these oral treats in a club, or are you talkin' OTC? If this is goin' on in a club, I have GOT to find out the name of the club and plan a road trip! If you met both MFC1 and MFC2 in a club (whether they are practicing their skills at the club or OTC), I STILL would like to know the name of the club!
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14 years ago
That's why my strategy is to pick early. I try to arrive near the beginning of shift change, find the object of my fantasy for the thing quickly - preferably as she first appears on the floor. I usually monopolize my choice until I leave, as well... I don't like to share. (sorry, I'm a stingy old fart)
I don't want some other guys smells, saliva and germs on the girl that I plan to play with!
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14 years ago
I'm sure it's not Chitown! I've been in email contact a few times during his absence. I think we don't see him around here any more is that he's bored with the SC scene. He discovered the joys of "clubbing" in TJ. No longer does a regular strip club hold a candle to that!
Yep... he's definitely missed around here...
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14 years ago
You're right... the huge majority never asks the preference. Usually it doesn't matter. How bad can it be with a beautiful girl on your lap, no matter what she is doing, or how?
Well, I found out a few weeks back. I was in one of my fav clubs (Hip Hugger), and I asked for a dance from a girl that I'd thought was cute as hell. She proceded to give me the worst dance that I've ever received. She was bouncin' and bangin' so hard it was crazy. Seriously, I felt like I was on a wild ride; like I should'a been fastened down with some sort of restraining device. I couldn't even explore her 'cause I was too busy hangin' on to my chair! I think that was the first and only dance that I could hardly wait 'til it was over. It might've also been the first one-dance session that I've ever had, as typically I will go at least two dances to make sure things aren't going to improve. Geesh! Give me slow and sensuous ANY time!
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16 years ago
I can't believe no one mentioned Kerri Sable. She's got to be the prettiest girl in porn.
Jenna Haze also ranks up there.
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16 years ago
I have to go with Strip Clubs. I've done both, but after watching far too many episodes of COPS and various other sting operations, the risks of getting arrested just scare the shit out of me these days.
Also, I like being able to pick and choose girls at a club... something sexy about knowing you can play with any girl that tickles your ummm... fancy.