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8 years ago
I've never associated my android phone with a Google account. Installing apps is very complicated but my phone is then anonymous to Google unless you subpoena my wireless carrier.
My FB has neither my photo, nor any posts on it.
"I turn off my work phone and pull the battery when I club. I have never given a dancer my real name or phone number because they do not give me theirs so why should I."
At work, I always carry my personal phone and my work phone. I leave my work phone at home on its charger when I SC. My non-SC friends only know my work phone or I make them move my personal phone to the alternative position in their contacts so they dont text or call me on my personal phone by default. My whores only know my personal phone.
If you know a stripper for months ITC, and after half a dozen to a dozen VIP room trips. Or if you run into a stripper OTC in day to day life (small city). If I know their real name, they can have mine. Atleast if they go off the deep end, I can tell the cops I know who shot me.
Most/all strippers in my area over the age of 22 are sex positive, and do not hide their jobs from anyone. Real names aren't that valuable to keep secret anymore. If a stripper is a model, music artist, visual artist, or theater performer as her day job, they are always looking for customers who would let them rise in their day job or get them an "in" to something. If they forever stay as "Bambi" ITC, they never know what OTC connections they missed out on. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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8 years ago
ATF knows I go to other SCs, I tell her the unique things about those other SCs, my experiences and adventures, but never go into details about what happened in VIP room or during the LDs other than saying if it is nude/topless/non-nude, any cameras, and the prices. ATF knows I go to her/my regular SC when she isn't there, and I do buy dances on nights when she isn't there, but I don't say who or how many and she doesnt ask anything further than I say.
ATF's ROI is the highest in the SC out of 25 dancers I went through in half a year. I need (and DO get) a little bit of variety or else I will start to think there is something more than just friends in my relationship with ATF.
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8 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I've been to the SC on New Years Day's evening and to the SC on the Saturday before Easter. I drove from the SC to church on Sunday morning to meet family. No change of clothes. No shame.
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8 years ago
At ATF's former club, strippers *did* mark customers as their property with their drink cups per SC rules. If a stripper leaves her cup, no other stripper can sit down or talk to that customer. I dont remember how the solo cups were labeled, by color or black marker.
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8 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
Every stripper I've ever "broken the rules" with, I knew before, or found out on a later visit, they have atleast one kid. It is this strange thing, that until a stripper has a kid, she hasn't matured mentally from her 13 or 14 year old self.
I think it is, once a stripper has a kid, and Mr Right (baby daddy) isn't Mr Right, she realizes her she has to lower her standard and can't "save herself [her pussy/her ego/her exclusiveness/her virginity]" for her BF/baby daddy anymore. After she has a kid, any SC customer can be Mr Right for a couple songs. She realizes that whatever she saved for her BF/baby daddy, he shitted and walked all over it, and it was meaningless to save for her man, vs her collection of regulars and non-regular customers.
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8 years ago
1-2 seconds. Dancer comes and sits down next to me, before I saw a word she leans over and whispers, "hi handsome, you look good tonight, why dont we goto VIP and have some fun? hand job, blow job, anything you want". I declined.
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8 years ago
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gammanu95My casual drinking is your alcohol poisoning.
I agree with Subraman. New club, no to first dancer until I understand the lineup and availability of each dancer. I need to know if all 6 and ups are in CR or VIP seating or with regulars for the rest of the night. Or is this a SC where no dancer had to go on stage if she doesnt want to. 8-10s have a habit of being "too good" to go on the pole in some SCs.
At my regular SCs, I follow subraman's process. If its a prearranged date, then date stripper unconditionally. Else it is random stripper night/new face/lets find dancer #2.
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8 years ago
^^^^ everything above
The bitches at SW need to read this thread. Hell, this should be the entrance exam to work at a SC. The "job complete" of a stripper is to make a customer not feel like a customer, but like a BF/man. I DO NOT want to be reminded that I am buying fake love. Never try to upsell me. Once I buy your time, never ask me again to open my wallet. Actually, never ask me to open my wallet, if I like you, I will do it on my own. If you never say a word about $, you will get a tip of what I think you should get, plus a bit of my personal financial state at the time. If you mention $, the fantasy you were supposed to create, and johnny, will be gone in 10 seconds. If I want an escort or a BP girl, I'd get them.
If a stripper hugs you the right way, it is a discrete standing up LD. Just a really tight hug, with a tiny bit of a rocking motion, and smelling the scent of her skin or sweat from her hair or next, and johnny will be hard in 15 seconds and pressing against her. When we let go, I know I will want her on my next visit to the SC.
DFK , hugging, kissing, back rubs, breathing hard, those are all sexual in my book.
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8 years ago
My ATF says the number reason she looses or cant keep regulars is they text her all day and waste her time and get needy with no plans to compensate her. The quick relationships end with her either blocking their number or when the regular realizes she wont be his GF. I have appologized to ATF for over texting her, but I told her sometimes I stay quiet just to give her space for her private life, not that im cold. She tightened her arm around me ITC on main floor and smiled when i said that. I also let her partially know about other SCs I visit and told her specifically "If a guy is with one girl over and over, he will want to put a ring on it and I don't think you want that?" she said no and laughed. So she knows shes not the only one. She is indishtingguishable from a civie GF in VIP room, and a close (I don't want to say best friend) friend ITC and OTC. She has never ever asked me for money above club minimums.
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8 years ago
Different club to club and city to city. At almost-by-location-southern club, every dancer thanked you, and every dancer smiled. No exceptions. Come to my snowbelt city, half the dancers wont look at 90% of the customers. Reasons I've heard from strippers
"He only bought 5 songs last time ($20 a song)"
"he is (black/white/indian/hispanic), they never buy anything, so I dont talk to them"
"he looks disgusting, I bet he is disgusting [he is going to try to kiss/finger/fuck/whip out dick/slap me/ask me out without offering to party]"
"he looks like a creep, he isn't going to want to talk with me" (all strippers complains at my SC most the customers will not talk with strippers, as if it is degrading to the customer to speak to a stripper).
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8 years ago
@Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx "This is typical of young women in general. Annoying as fuck to constantly change their numbers all the time. I don't even bother contacting them anymore."
Women dont have the balls to tell people to fuck off by phone call or text. They dont want to let down the dirtbag chick or guy, instead they will change their number so dirtbag cant contact them anymore. If dirtbag chick/guy figures out how to contact the woman, she just says "I lost/broke/changed my number, and im so sorry I forgot to give it you" instead of saying telling dirtbag the number was changed specifically because of dirtbag. Pathetic.
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8 years ago
I've done P4P sex with no emotions. I regret doing it. Never again without an emotional connection. Jerking off is free, P4P sex is a waste of $. You can't find emotional connections with escorts or brothels. Strippers yes, escorts and brothels no. With my strippers it is, we are almost but not a BF/GF couple when are together, but when we say bye for the night, we go back to our separate private lives.
We never talk about the future (it is understood there is none), current SOs, or use the word "love" between me and my strippers. If we run into other people who know us, we are "just friends", the fact we will fuck later or fucked earlier isn't anyone else's business. When my stripper ran into her acquaintances, IDK if they knew I was a customer or private life guy friend.
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8 years ago
"Any of you ever went to the SC at the tail end of your cold or even when you knew you freshly had just started a cold?"
Yes. A stripper is like a healthcare worker, you get exposed to the flu dozens of times a month in your job whether you know it or not, you will have resistance to colds because of your job. I work in healthcare, I get coughed on, coughing sneezing people in waiting rooms and hallways. Paper records cant be cleaned. Tables and keyboards cleaned once a month. The heating and cooling system wont stop the viruses from floating through the hospital/clinic. I get a fever only once a year. Delsym, Zyrtec, Airborne, Coldeeze, Sudafed, and Vicodin and Im good to go the SC.
"What about the dancer coughing on you?"
No. Hasn't happened to me. Since strippers are genetically flakey and have "loose hours", they just dont come into work if they have a visible cold since no customer would buy LDs from a "disgusting" stripper.
"How did you feel about it?"
If it happened IDK how I feel. If I like what I see, IDC if it has a cold.
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8 years ago
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GACAUn-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.
@GACA You can feel happy that you were a special enough customer that they were courteous enough to turn off the [c]rap music for you as a favor lol
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8 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I once went to a SC, with $20 for a 7 minutes LD, and $40 for 12 minute LD. LD time was controlled by a female staff member with a clipboard walking around the VIP booth hallway, not the stripper.
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8 years ago
I'd try to turn it into a messing around in the shower situation with lots of soap and bubbles. I wouldn't try fucking tho due to risk of breaking the tile wall, or bruises from hitting the wall or tub sides. Leaving a girl alone in the motel bathroom with a closed door always makes me a bit paranoid. If you can fuck, you can watch her take a shit or piss. We are all mammals.
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8 years ago
(1) M*a gave me her number but it never receives my texts -- I get an error message every time
Fake number or out of $.
(2) M*h gave me her number but she seldom answers my texts
Google Voice number or something. Not a real cellphone.
(3) D* gave me her number but it's no longer hers -- some doofus texted back that "This isn't D*'s number any more!"
Her pimp's phone. I let an exgf have a spare phone on my family plan for 2 weeks once, completely reasonable if some unintended calls come in.
(4) J* blew me in VIP, got DATY from me -- *everyone* enjoyed that VIP visit! -- kissed me nonstop during and after, and offered her number and more fun OTC -- but is now on a break from stripping and doesn't answer my texts. For my own peace of mind, I'm assuming she lost her phone, because no other explanation is acceptable :)
Unknown circumstances.
(5) L* provided HJ + BBBJ + TF in VIP and gave me her number but lost her phone within a couple of days. Fortunately she had a back-up phone and somehow knew my number, so she texted me to ask for a ride to work -- because she also has transportation issues!
Smart enough to backup her contacts to a website.
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8 years ago
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GACAUn-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.
So WTF are you doing there if all strippers on their phones with music off? Are you on your phone too? Waiting for a particular fav to get out of the DR or what?
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8 years ago
Meeting parents isn't scary, unless she told you to lie to her parents head of time, they know her career choice already. Although this wasn't with a stripper, but a drug addicted female friend with benefits, for a while so knodded out on drugs (she is better now), I'd go have my fun with her in her bedroom, then leave her to sleep in bed, and go downstairs and hang out with her mom and dad who are only a couple years older than me for 2-3 hours infront of the TV or her mom might make me and her husband dinner. Her parents were more interesting to talk to than her semi-conscious. At the end I go see if she is awake or not, if shes awake I say bye, otherwise I leave her alone, then say bye to the parents and leave. Mom once told me, "I wish you two were more serious, I'd love to have you as my son in law". I switched topics without responding to that. I've never asked them directly why they let her daughter be that way. The daughter says "they are cool about it [drugs]". Dad is a cop, mom is a paramedic.
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8 years ago
Aslong as you never punish her (hand her phone over to cops/DA for prosecution), or act on the information (blackmail), it would be fine. If she gets arrested, the booking cop would go through her phone anyway in jail. Dont ever text anything you wouldnt want a LEO to see.
A stripper having only one or 2 OTC customers+1 SO isn't impossible. Not all strippers are wild whores. STD risk and emotions can limit them to only handful of customers OTC. If she wanted to be on BP, she would be.
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8 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
They must be charging some [new] customers more than $5 a drink :p
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8 years ago
@mrrock "There will be no posting of links to IG since I might as well post a selfie of myself with my DL on TUSCL."
All names were changed for TUSCL. "111sasha111" is made up. The actual IG name has the same digit appear 3 times on both sides of the stage name.
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8 years ago
$20. Any time my wallet opens, I must ask myself the question, "what am I buying?". Stage tipping is very low for me too, since "making it rain" guys are usually pimps offering "I can hook you up with private parties, you make $1K, you dont have to do anything you aren't comfortable with" and strippers know that and exploit it aslong as the pimps keep giving ITC.
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8 years ago
@a21985 What you have is a fake girlfriend, that is more expensive and rare than even full service. IME GFE (DFK/"I love you"/cuddling) costs more than full service. You will never put a ring on it but enjoy her while she lasts. My ATF has never offered prices or negotiated for extras, she just does them and hopes for whatever I give her above the SC minimum, and she takes it no questions asked.
" I like to believe my particular looks, younger age, relationship status, and personality makes me naturally come off as "safe" to dancers. But I've never gotten this gotten this kind of reaction before and this girl is really getting in my head. Someone snap me out of these PL goggles I can't take off and help me understand what's going on!"
Yes, you are probably dream customer, you shave, you shower and wash your dick, wear deodorant, own a washing machine, no beer belly or gang tats. Do you wear rough (blue jeans) or soft fabric pants to the SC? Strippers hate rough fabric. If she is getting in your head, it means you have a keeper stripper. I goto sleep every night dreaming about my ATF. I still know that in a couple months I will have to say goodbye forever to her since she will move back home. ATF knows Im poor and I have a budget, but Im much better than typical SC customers. I FIV her only with permission. I dont try to recruit her for "dancing at private parties" or "modeling". I let her talk about her life and not my life, etc.
@Timex345 With my ATF, I've driven her to the SC once for her shift, and picked her up another time. So it might not be a BF but a customer. Some strippers have attachment problems, they have multiple BFs or guy friends or regulars due to daddy issues. I'll exploit her daddy issue and attachment issue aslong as I can OTC. My ATF told me on the 2nd time we met, I am not the only guy in her life, and she left it at that. I told her immediately after, that she isnt the only dancer I know in the club and there were others before she started working here, and she then acknowledged that she knows Im a SC customer. Aslong as both sides know there is no exclusiveness, there cant be hurt feelings.
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8 years ago
How rich are you? What will the allimony or child support or divorce cost? If you have little income or assets like she does, and you are fine with an open relationship go ahead, else run, or lead her on before she realizes you wont.