Comments by Draper

Averaging twice a month, 90% of visits involving ATF, 10% random locations during business travel. Spent just under 3k last year and had a blast.

Similar experience to Mr Johnsmith. First full year with ATF in 2014 was huge...big learning experience. So 2014 has sentimental value, but 2015 has been unbelievable thusfar.

So a local contact who came out with us suggested Scores over Mons and 2001. We had a blast at Scores, really happy we went. Review will be posted shortly. Thanks to all for the info!

Thanks guys! Looks like Mons/2001 is the way to go, looking forward to it!

Club_Goer mentioned SCL. One benefit to that site is that sometimes management will post on there regarding their club and provide schedule updates or deals for that day/ week. But being that management has a presence, it's prob not the place where you want to share too much intel on specific dancers if it's a no contact/no extras place.

Another lesson to be learned from this thread...hell hath no fury...

I think conversation as the basis of the test drive is important. If you're willing to play it slow, multiple test drives could yield some good LD action. My ATF was busy on a recent visit, but another dancer I had chatted with (essentially vetted) on multiple occasions was available. We were pretty familiar with each other already and she was super enthusiastic when I said I would go in the LD room with her, as I had turned it down every other time previously...we had an outstanding session. If you have a common sexual interest that is confirmed during the test drive then you should be good to go in the LD room as well. During same night as above (I was pretty shitfaced and silly at this point), dancer I never saw walked by and had a great feet. Conversation went like this: Me: let me get a better look at that pedi. Her: (puts foot on stool) Me: lovely(puts dollar in toes) Her: well that's a first Me: was it as good for you as it was for me? Her: I love when guys do anything with my feet Me: then you're gonna love me Her: let's go So two different test drives lead to two outstanding dances for me that night.

^well played sir. Went here once for a bachelor party...can't imagine I'll ever see a set up like that again as far as club size and number of girls. Definitely unique.

RIP Always sobering hearing news like this. My condolences to other posters who knew the departed Tusclers.

Gotta go with option A. I always fumble with option C, never know if the girl wants the money in the bra straps, cups, or cleavage. It's like playing rock, paper, scissors...

@Vin66- haha, thought I was the only one!

When I click on more articles or more discussions is when the change is the most jarring for me. Other screens seem ok so far, just larger cleaner appearance.

Agree with JohnSmith. Not just talking about extras, but giving them an honest answer here may help the customer and dancer relax and drop their guards a little bit. Has worked for me.

Just had a convo with a bouncer about this recently at a place where rules weren't strictly enforced normally. He said LE has been coming in more frequently and management has had to crack down on the girls because of it. Very unfortunate.

Walking Dead's current season was weak, but the series as a whole is quality. Thoroughly enjoyed True Detective, curious how next season will go. And the women they casted are among the hottest of any recent show out their.

Great feedback by all, thanks!

@clubber- agreed on the cigar...though the wife can't stand that smell either...def the lesser of two evils in this case though. @NJpete- great call on the EZ pass.

@shadowcat-those scents look awesome haha. @electroman- this may not be an ideal solution but when in a pinch a quick stop into a local fast food place can help mask other fragrances.

If I'm with friends I'm willing to wait 1-2 hrs for my preferred dancer. If it's a solo trip than 1-2 hrs is a lot of wasted time and singles that could be spent on an LD with someone else, or for next time with your go-to girl.

@slickspic and hitman9- sounds like a screwjob to me...was the club in Montreal?

Think Subraman said it best: "And partly, it's because -- at least for me -- I get way more mileage for way less money if I make a tight connection (yes, even though the connection is stripper/customer)." That's a big plus for me at least and worth the exclusivity on my part. I don't think my ATF would care much if I tested the waters with other dancers, but I probably should have done it earlier. I don't want to rock the boat at this point and potentially screw up a good arrangement.

I personally don't visit them but quite a few friends of mine (married, in a relationship, and single) do. It's not too uncommon and they don't make it seem like a big deal as far as guilt. I don't think they tell their significant others though. Did you find out or did your husband volunteer the info?

I've had some outstanding dances but have never come close to LDKing. The logistics involved in pulling this off while wearing pants are mind boggling to me. Seems like a lot of dudes can make it happen though.

Only weekdays for me, and usually not Thursday nights either. Smaller crowds drive this preference...I like having more choices regarding available dancers and seating.

A little humor goes a long way. And wear the wedding ring proudly if you have one.