Comments by ujay

In my experience on the east coast (NJ, Philly, DC), I have found that you get the best bang for your buck with the independent escorts. Stay away from the ones that work for large escort agencies and make sure that you remain on time. From time to time, you may meet an independent stripper and you both may get it on. For one thing, FS is a sure thing; unlike the stripclub environment where it is a moving target. I have had dinner dates and overnight stays with independent escorts without paying extras. The chemistry may just be there. Become a member of TER and read reviews. Not all reviews are off target. I think that going to the stripclub with the ultimate goal for OTC is the way to go. I know that you first have to show the girl that you are not LE, and have some money in the club. This may involve having FS in the club to break the ice. FS in the club is always a rushed and messy affair. Condoms are limited, cleaning towels are solutions are limited. Some strippers prefer to only have FS in the club. I tend to avoid these ones. I prefer to work with those strippers that have FS in the club, but are opened to OTC. FS in the club is a major waste of money if the goal is not towards OTC. My own two cents.

I think that to fire her would be the wrong move. Maybe, work on getting her transferred to a different department. It is tough working close to someone that you have strong feelings for. There is a 335lb lady that applied for the same job. Perhaps, it is time to call the 335lb lady up.

My personal advice to a young man is to get your finances together, purchase a home, and work on establishing a relationship if you wish to have children. Stripper are generally damaged goods. They are beautiful and represent a fantasy. They are generally available for any guy for the right price. Cultivate a great relationship with a great civvie that you can count on in a pinch.

I will stay away from this woman. If she becomes too much to handle, I will simply get her fired. It is probably best for her to get a different job with a different company and avoid the temptation of being close to her. I will begin to set the dismissal in motion.

Try Oasis. It is ITC and OTC friendly. Centerfolds give the best high mileage dance in the area. You can grab the breast, suck the tits, and squeeze the ass. OTC is available.

Thanks a million Guys!! I will not do this. It is hard for this board to agree on anything, but this board is unanimous on this. I will stay away from this Delilah! She is a snake in the grass, waiting for me to step on her! I will keep away from her.

I never make it rain. I only "rain" on the dancer when I have received a good BBBJ or FS in the VIP room. And I am a black guy. I simply work too hard for my money to simply throw it away. If you want my money, you have to take the panties down south in VIP.

I may have ITC for the first one or two times to break the ice with the girl; I will then ask for OTC. If she does not respond to OTC, I move over to a different girl. The main reason I do not like ITC is paying so much money for so little time. You can never get a second pop. Eveyrthing is rushed.

At the Penthouse in Philly, I have seen a black girl tell a new white girl that her shoes were recently stolen, and that the shoes the white girl had on belong to her. This white girl became very terrified and was trembling. I reassured her that this was a gimmick to get her out of her club. In any case, she asked to be escorted out the club. I have never seen her back again. Some dancers are afraid to venture from suburban clubs to center city clubs because of fear of intimidation and violence.

On average, I go to stripclubs, once per week, though I may visit two days in a row and then take some time off. I generally visit SC when I am away for work, usually in Philly or NJ. I never visit SC where I live. I am afraid of the fallout if something goes wrong. I usually take a $1000 with me. I am quite frugal and pinch every bit of it. I sometimes bring nearly all of it back home. I prefer to be prepared. I also travel with my own condoms, just in case. I usually visit during work days, usually in the afternoon or at night. My ultimate goal is to arrange OTC.

George, you are lucky to spend $160 for the complete package. Here, on the Northeast, especially in the Phlly market, most of the VIP rooms in the Dive clubs run between $125 - 160/15 min. Nothing goes on in the regular lapdance room. It is wide open by design. You have to buy VIP if you want to have extras. I only have to give a tip of $100 - 150 on weekdays. On the weekends, tips may range from $200 - 300, bringing the total to $325 - 450.

Papi: I think that opening an upscale club is good, but at the end of the day, the services have to be provided. Guys will pay for high admission, high drink prices, etc, but "extras" have to be readily available. If guys pay a lot of upfront costs, but there is no guarantee of a rainbow at the end of the day, the guys will flock back to the dive clubs, where "extras" are readily available. The girls follow the money. Cash rules! No matter how beautiful is the club, if the girls are not making money, they will skip to a dive club where money is made. New girls are entering the stripclub circuit each day, but they follow the money. Also, there are other "adult options" out there, like escorts, agencies, etc. There are some strippers that I know that move back and forth between the different options.

Do not blame yourself. You made the right decision by paying the tip out. All is not lost. Do not become angry. You may meet her another day and arrange for an OTC. Simply, do not give her half of the fee upfront.

As they say in the Boys Scout, BE PREPARED!! I usually take a $1000 with me to the stripclub to avoid using the ATM. Many times I bring most of this money back home with me. I usually visit extras friendly clubs, and avoid go go bars because of the low mileage. I tend to visit on nonweekend nights. I remember a particular night when I received three BBBJ from three high quality strippers at $225 each, including cost of room which was $125. I would never have had these girls on a weekend night. They would have charged $200 - $300 for a BBBJ. They were all desperate for cash. This night I spend around $750, the highest I have spend in any strip club. On tuesday night, I spend a total of $250 on a top notch stripper for CBJ and CFS at 1am. The club closes at 2am. Again, she would not have agreed to this amount on a typical weekend night. Monday and Tuesday nights are tough for these strippers; they would prefer to make a little than to go home hungry. So, my advice is to always be prepared; not necessary to spend a large amount. Avoid weekends and the bachelor eve and college students crowd. Monday and Tuesday nights are great nights for me. My dollar goes further.

As the economy continues to improve, the price of lapdances has slowly begun to creep up. In Philadelphia, it was $20 after the downfall in the economy. Now, many of the clubs have begun to charge $30/lapdance. The increase in price does not necessary benefit the dancer. At $20/lapdance, the dancer received $15 (75%); at $30/lapdance, the dancer receives $20 (66%). So, most of the money is going to the owners of the establishment. Therefore, the only reason I go to stripclubs nowadays, is to try to arrange OTC. The girls prefer OTC if they can overcome the trust factor.

I live in the Philly/south Jersey area that is saturated with strip clubs. A particular club, DDTR, which provides high mileage behind close curtains, pissed me off by charging me twice for admission on the same day. As much as I like the high mileage and FS that it provides, I have taken it out of rotation for six months. I have decided to vote with my wallet. Strippers gravitate to where the money is. If there is no enough money, they begin to rotate to surrounding clubs. I have met some of them in surrounding clubs. As a matter of fact, I have decided to visit other DD around.

I may sometimes feel obligated to give a tip like $5 because we have had an acquaintance before. I would prefer not to get a lap dance because this would be a waste of my time.

or the right hands are not greased!

A "good girl" in the club pointed out to me all of the girls that gave extras and were dirty dancing. I was only too happy to keep a record of all of the dirty dancers, and not waste my limited treasure on a wild goose "good girl" chase.

I am a black guy with a black wife. I have black pussy available to me 24 hours. I visit strip clubs to look for the opposite, generally white girls. I like white Latinas. I keep away from Asians and black girls. Sorry. I live in the philly area and this may be your Mecca. High end clubs like Vanity Grand have all shades of black girls, from pure Arfrican to multiple shades of brown. Only a few white girls dance here. There are, of course, many low end clubs with predominantly black girls like, Atlantis. Visit philly and have fun.

My Club, Delilah Den, Tom River, charges $125/15 min for the room ($75 to girl and $50 to management). So the girls demand an extra $200 - 300 for the complete package. I cap at $275 for everything, especially if I have paid for a regular lapdance to break the ice. So, in essence, I am capping at $300 max. Above this inflection point, I will pay for one hour with an escort.

My decision to cap at $275, including room, is to compare with available escorts in the Philly area. The top notch escorts around Philly charge $300 - 350. I can not bring myself to giving a stripper more than $275 for 15 minutes, when I can spend 1 full hour with two pops with an escort and have the aerobics of my life. Stripclub FS is a hit or miss. You either leave satisfied or with blue balls. Your pants hang around your ankles and there may be the haggling over what was negotiated, so I prefer to max at $275. How much do you max at?

Subraman: your initial offer should be higher, say $300, because you have to overcome her apprehension of going with you to a hotel venue. After the initial acquaintance, she knows you and feels relax to meet again. This time, you may offer a lower price like $250 (say, "times a tough right now and this is what I have"). I have had lot of strippers and escorts this way, especially around the end of month when the bills are due. 9/10, they will all jump at the bait. They always need the cash to feed the chaos in their lives.

If I like a stripper who does not do extras, but gives great high friction dances, I may put on a condom, and jerk off during the dance.