What is the cap (max) that you will pay for full service, ie, BBBJ and FS ITC

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ujay
I visited my favorite club on Sunday night and nearly all of the strippers had an open menu.
Perhaps, it was the end of the month. However, the prices for BBBJ and FS ITC was all over the map. I cap at $125 (room) + $150 tip. Therefore the max I will pay for ITC FS and BBBJ is $275 (total), including cost of room for 15 minutes. I base this amount on what I would normally pay for a top notch escort which is usually $300 - 350. I never go above $275 (max) for ITC FS and BBBJ, and you better be worth it for 15 minutes. Am I paying too much or is this the average where you live. What is your max, including the cost of the room, for ITC FS and BBBJ?

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JohnSmith69
10 years ago
How hot is the girl. What city is the club in?
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shailynn
10 years ago
I've gone as high as $350 + $20 mandatory bouncer tip. The lowest I ever did was sharing a 6-piece McNuggets and an ice cream from McDonalds on the way to my hotel for OTC. I'm not kidding either.
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bellman
10 years ago
I have 2 sure-thing places I go to. The standard rate at one is $100 for CFS includiing 2 songs, and $20 each for extra songs. At the other place, the room is $40 for 15 minutes and the girl expects $80-100 for CFS. At neither is it necessary to tip a bouncer.
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Mate27
10 years ago
2-3 hours at the max is all I will spend. Not sure how much time i would invest these days. Probably a lot less.
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shadowcat
10 years ago
So far the max I have ever paid ITC or OTC for BBBJ or BBFS is $150. Will I ever pay more? I'll know when I come to that bridge.
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Diva1975
10 years ago
You couldn't even get a 12 piece shailynn? Lol
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jackslash
10 years ago
$400
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londonguy
10 years ago
I don't have a cap. Within reason.
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JohnSmith69
10 years ago
If I spent all my clubbing days where shadowcat goes, then maybe a $150 cap would be rational. But in the other world things are a lot more expensive than that. That's why I say it depends on the city and how hot the girl is. My limit will be higher or lower depending upon what the particular city offers. Also my limit can be a moving one depending upon the girl. There's one limit for a 7 and a different limit for a DS.
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bang69
10 years ago
The highest I've payed was $800
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ujay
10 years ago
My decision to cap at $275, including room, is to compare with available escorts in the Philly area. The top notch escorts around Philly charge $300 - 350. I can not bring myself to giving a stripper more than $275 for 15 minutes, when I can spend 1 full hour with two pops with an escort and have the aerobics of my life. Stripclub FS is a hit or miss. You either leave satisfied or with blue balls. Your pants hang around your ankles and there may be the haggling over what was negotiated, so I prefer to max at $275. How much do you max at?
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JohnSmith69
10 years ago
Depending upon city, club, and dancer, my range is generally around $200-600.
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rickdugan
10 years ago
$400 all-in. If the price is higher than that then I'm back on the OTC hunt. In many FS clubs in the southern areas, i've been able to get it for $300 all-in and even a bit lower.
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Electronman
10 years ago
150 is typical. 200 is max. Prices appear to vary greatly by geographic locale.

Based on my limited experience:
Best value-- Tijuana
Good value in the US-- Detroit, with Tampa a close second
Worst value in the US-- probably Vegas
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chandler
10 years ago
Until a few years ago, it was $0. Now I'll go as high as $150. But you can't say for sure until you're really tested. Caps are for Boy Scouts.
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johnsmojo
10 years ago
Clubs in my area, I pay $20 a song,3 songs FS itc.
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shadowcat
10 years ago
jhnsmogo - $60 for FS is great. What street corner was that?
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rickdugan
10 years ago
@chandler: LOL. I agree, but I also believe that many posting here have found their cap numbers precisely because they were rested. I know I did. $400 is my ouch point for both ITC and OTC and she'd better be damned hot if I am paying even that much. With many girls, I hold the line at $300.
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rickdugan
10 years ago
that would be "tested" not "rested"
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warhawks
10 years ago

$200 is my max now a days.

It used to be higher. But I'm much more selective now and have learned a few things and now don't get taken advantage of like I did when I first started out clubbing 4 or 5 years ago.

We don't have to pay for champagne rooms (don't even have them) in my town so that helps to keep the total costs down. You might end up having to pay a bouncer $5 or $10 for a VIP booth, but that's about it. Although I have heard of a few clubs that charge $20 for a wrist band or per trip to the VIP. But not at the clubs I frequent.
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chandler
10 years ago
Rick, I don't doubt what you say, but I was just speaking of my own limited experience, and the fact that practically every ass I've wanted to tap so far has agreed to for one bill, plus $50 to the house.

That's the so-called going rate at my regular club for anything in VIP. Some strippers ask for a lot more, but the lowdown is that they're the least likely to perform. As often as not in this game, paying more means you get less.
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san_jose_guy
10 years ago
ujay,

Your number seems high to me. But I would go by what rickdugan and shadowcat say. But what is more surprising to me is the shortness of the time, 15min, and how much is going to the house for that.

I'm not out in the area you are yet, but I don't like the sound of such pricing. It sounds like a racket. I have heard of a place in Tuscon where it is $15 for 15min. So you could do $60 for 60min, which is AMP pricing.

We also know of a place a regular poster likes in Florida where the price is very low.$50 per hour, then plus the money to the dancer which could be $100. Again, this is AMP pricing.

As I know from Red Book, good escrots run $200 to $300 for the hour. No one would do 15min. And with a good escort you don't want just 1/2 hour either. The 'service level' is so high that she is worth the time, and this is what makes her worth the money.

AAMPs, with a service level just as high, run $160 for most Chinese girls and $200 for most Korean girls, and the 'service level' is every bit as high as with the domestic escorts, so you want all that time.

Many of the regular posters here who are using SC's in various cities are regular business travelers. Soon I will be doing something similar. So the hotel room is paid for. So to have the girl for 1hr should not be that bad.

Then some people do home OTC's.

If you are away from home but don't have a hotel room, I would think an escort for an hour would be nice. But face to face first meetings are better than just calling an ad. There must be some strippers who do it this way themselves. There are going to be some who are from out of town and so they rent a room to work out of.

This is where Mr. Dugan's System becomes important.

Would you mind telling us more about these VIP room 15 min prices that are so high?
Where is this and do you have any idea why it is so high?

SJG

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Clubber
10 years ago
Difficult to say since there are so many variable. One club it might cost $300 and another it could be $150. Partly because LD rooms are not usually FS and a VIP room is needed on top of what the dancer receives.
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farmerart
10 years ago
I am not price sensitive. I have spent upwards of $1,000 for a romp.

One pathetic evening in Vancouver's No 5 Orange I was willing to throw $3K at the girl......damn girl wouldn't go for it.

Normal price in the clubs I frequent is $200-$300 for the deed. Add on the usual club fees and you soon reach rickdugan's all-in $400 price (or even higher).

I just can't get my mind around these $60 or $100 prices. You Follies guys, in particular, should venture into the real world. You have some kind of paradise down there in the South.
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Clubber
10 years ago
We need a farmerart day at Follies, his treat for all!!!
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rickdugan
10 years ago
farmer posted: "I just can't get my mind around these $60 or $100 prices. You Follies guys, in particular, should venture into the real world. You have some kind of paradise down there in the South."
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LOL. Exactly. Who the hell needs to go to places like Mexico and Guatemala to fuck on the cheap when they can do it right here in the ol' US of A? I couldn't believe it the first time I traveled down south and was offered the full package ITC, by an attractive girl, for $150. And the Southern clubs in which I've become a regular, my OTC tab now runs from $150 to $200 a visit, depending upon the girl.

Shit, not too long ago, two different girls, both of whom were very fuckable,even pitched me OTC fun for $100. I didn't get to play either offer out as one wanted to go to my car (no thanks) and the other pitched me when I already had OTC plans, but I am interested to see if this is something that might actually work out well.

Yup, no need to fly to Vietnam for bargain tail. Simply do some research and hop a flight to parts of SC, GA or FL and you can find ample supply of reasonably priced fun with girls that even speak English - or at least somewhat. ;)
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ujay
10 years ago
My Club, Delilah Den, Tom River, charges $125/15 min for the room ($75 to girl and $50 to management). So the girls demand an extra $200 - 300 for the complete package. I cap at $275 for everything, especially if I have paid for a regular lapdance to break the ice. So, in essence, I am capping at $300 max. Above this inflection point, I will pay for one hour with an escort.
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4got2wipe
10 years ago
I have no upper limit, but I certainly try to keep it within reason! If I enjoy it I always add a hearty "that was brilliant!" ;)
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4got2wipe
10 years ago
I'm thinking of adding a big smile and some jazz hands to the hearty "that was brilliant!" but I'm still not sure whether that will be viewed as "happy weird!" or "scary weird!"
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sharkhunter
10 years ago
I never get offers for that inside clubs I visit. At least not in my current memories.
I would just say no thanks anyway if someone did or suspect the dancer of being a con artist trying to rip me off. I might need to travel more sometime.
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san_jose_guy
10 years ago
Given that they are charging so much for just 15min, you might be better with the 1hr Escort. But instead of just calling an ad, use Rick Dugan's System and find a stripper who will be your escort. That initial fraternizing with her in the SC will make it better and lower the risk.

SJG
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Mate27
10 years ago
^^^ Good tip from SJG! Although strippers are whacked out,too so you never know which route is safest. Just ask Dugan. He knows how to pay for sex and the many ways of doing it.
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san_jose_guy
10 years ago
What we really need is Hong Kong Bar quality. I don't mean necessarily Hong Kong Bar pricing. Pricing can come later. To start with, just get the service style right!!

You should be able to hook up with your girl and then walk her to private space, without she having to change her clothes, take off her stripper shoes, or drive her car. Then how long you stay with her should be just between you and she. So as you might want to stay the night, it does need to be a hotel. For those TUSCL members who are regularly traveling on the company dime, just think how nice this will be!

Likewise the women should be able to work around the clock. That way they aren't losing income opportunities if they nap or sleep with a customer. They need to sleep sometime anyway. So if the place never closes, they can always go back to making more money off of more people, after they have gotten some shut eye with you.

Hong Kong Bar quality?
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

But until that time we just have to make do. Being able to have whatever girl strikes your fancy is great. But the cost relative to the service level is too high when that only means 15min. So the tendency is going to be to want to book sessions with a girl after you have done her once in the club. Or we can follow Rick Dugan and just go directly to the outside session without the ITC.

SJG
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