Comments by knightwish (page 4)

@deogol interesting idea. I picked up the book.

Something like 15% of the population likes some pain mixed with their sex. Hair pulling which is just controlling isn't even at that level.Anal for women is intense but they don't have a prostate so they don't have quite the same experience as men do. But for women who don't cum vaginally, which often requires something more the size of a woman's hand or fist than a penis, yes it is likely to be more exciting. BTW anal stimulation works well for women in combination with intercourse or oral, I regularly put a few fingers up there to help stimulate them. Or visa versa when rimming and it helps them cum. I'd say you are just inexperienced. Try it for yourself and see if like it. Buy your SO a strap-on, or most doms will do strap-on.

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I'm OK with being considered that.

IMHO there some differences between girls who escort and girls who dance in terms of experience and skill set. But yeah it is one of the weird things about OTC and ITC dancers. I had a dancer a few months ago go on a rant about how much she hated hookers while I was over her house paying her sex. And she was being totally serious, didn't see the irony at all. The ITC vs. OTC comment is insightful. I'd be curious if there is a difference. IMHO what dancers seem to mean by prostitute is: a) They'll do sex with anyone, the way a dancer will do a lap dance for anyone. b) The cost for sex, how much they charge.

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@Alucard -- Outside comment means the internet as a whole. Forum X commenting on the activities of forum Y not people on Y commenting on themselves.

@Rick -- OK I don't anything about the history between you and Doug and so I'm missing all the subtexts. I'm also quite happily missing the subtexts. I see tons of you being trolled and that seems pointless and rude. But I do consider you a legit poster. The internet does not allow for public forms that are free from outside comment. SW moderators can control who can post on the dancer only subsite. They can enforce rules about cross posting from the dancer only subsite to the rest of the board. But the administrators can't control what everyone else anywhere posts. Attempting to enforce this sort of rule using administrative powers is bound to fall. If Yoda objects to Papi's behavior of posting on TUSCL the appropriate place to take that is to TUSCL not to take revenge on SW. An agreement not to cross post, requires an agreement. The SW admin made an administrative ruling that Papi's behavior on TUSCL warranted a lifetime ban, the TUSCL crowd strongly disagrees. The appropriate way for that to be dealt with is between the two communities. SW wouldn't be the first, hundreds, thousandth or ten thousandth site to end being counter blogged because of censorship attempts on the internet. That's a bad idea. Now let me say up front a few things. 1) I have no knowledge at all of Papi and Yoda's previous interactions. 2) Being a moderator is often a time consuming and thankless job. 3) SW is likely a particularly miserable board to moderate. So I won't comment to much on the particulars, I don't know the facts. As for middle aged men, girls young enough to be your daughter.... If the girls on SW want to pull that they are entitled to the protections accorded young people then they should be posting quite differently, for one a lot more respectfully. You want to talk daughters. I can't imagine my daughter acting the way the girls on SW do in a mixed age / experience setting. I've seen my daughter interact with older people on subjects she is interested in on the internet and she doesn't interact with them rudely. She understands that by virtue of age and experience they have advantages and insights she doesn't. Which isn't to say she doesn't meet middle aged idiots on the internet in the forums she frequents but she remembers and respects the differences inherent in their roles. The girls on SW attitude sucks both towards the older more experienced dancers and towards the men who've been in the industry and towards clients. That's not appropriate conduct. My daughter would look to middle aged people commenting on her career as a positive, guiders or potential mentors. She'd be interested in what people with more experience who have a better sense of the world and better connections think. That's not to say she isn't going to question them, but if she's going to contradict someone like that, she going to do her research and make sure she knows her shit. The attitude is going to be "sir here is how I'm thinking about this, can you explain what I've missed". And frankly she'd also be highly suspicious of any kind of sycophant middle aged man playing into her ego, knowing they likely have ulterior motives. A girl my daughter's age understands that right now what she has is the potential to be someone whose accomplishments will warrant respect and that's what she aims for professionally. Rick, if you really want to apply the daughter standard, then I think an entirely different post is warranted. Teens and twenty somethings think they understand everything. Your telling them that they do is doing them a lot more harm then someone saying mean things about their looks. If you are asking how I'd want you interacting with my daughter, I'd want you acting like an adult not playing into her ego. And as an aside, if you were abusing that role and boning her I'd put in a bullet in your brain without hesitation. So how comparable is the situation really? Stripping obviously short circuits the whole maturation process because the women involved make a salary often much higher than their superiors would be making in a vanilla job. They get treated special because they play with middle aged men's penis and egos. They get paid to engage in inappropriate conduct and the men they are playing with them treat them inappropriately. So no, the daughter standard doesn't apply. That's a cheap shot towards Papi. I'm not sure what standards should apply to strippers when they are off, I think it best to handle the situation case by case oscillating in what age they get treated.

Well the whole thing is dumb. Assuming he's talking about female strippers that's not applicable. The situation isn't symmetrical because women essentially always have a relatively low number of children whom they have a high commitment relationship with. Male alpha strategy he's right to have frequent breeding partners. Female alpha strategy is to get an alpha husband / long term boyfriend. Female beta strategy is to get a beta male to raise the biological progeny of an alpha.

Last month HJ and partial BJ (not to completion) on a couch in public section of club. Making out. My shirt unbuttoned. And my hands freely roamed (though I never penetrated her).

Robert Wood Johnson is a f*ing huge teaching hospital. Dick jokes not withstanding if someone put a bullet in me in S. Plainfield that's where I'd want to end up. As far as Liquid Assets ... well it had to make the news for something. Club is a mess.

I've done it. Strippers are generally so/so doms but free with their body and great at making the pain. If you want a very erotic, S&M experience and since it is OTC often BBBJ or FS you can get that from a stripper more easily than a dom. Remember you are going to have to be the more experienced person, unlike with a prodom, so you do have to top from the bottom a bit. If you haven't tried it and have tried a prodom then I'd say definitely worth it. If you haven't done a few prodoms then go to a pro for your S&M.

@rh48hr Casino pit bosses have years of experience as dealers and have support staff to show them the ropes. They are paid quite well. Casino managers you are looking at a often 2 decades and a very well trained employee. Strip club managers make little money and often are promoted from bouncer with almost no support. You get what you pay for when it comes to staff.

I generally unbutton my shirt before LDs start. So at this point for me it is becoming a standard.

@mjpenn07 I'm only a semi-regular but I'll take Philly if no one better steps up.

@trixxi -- You have to remember you are sort of a dream girl fantasy to most of your customers. They often don't understand that this is an act, you are wearing a max where you playing into them. They don't get that the real you has interests that aren't all about them, and they are often falling in love a little with the trixxi stripper persona. I don't really know the answer here. The guys who are indifferent to your personal information are the ones who could safely have it because they get you are at work and the real you isn't the same girl. The guys who anxiously want your personal information are the ones who could really get out of hand. As far as the car, and waiting, will the bouncers help? Club security is kinda setup to help in these sorts of situation. Otherwise I'd tell him if he waits by your car again you are going to call the cops not the bartender. That guy sounds like a potential stalker.

@lone If I had to guess, something like 30% of the male population can't stay hard in a condom. Almost 100% of the male population likes bareback way more than regular which means they like it better it also means they cum faster. It wouldn't shock me if a willingness to do BBFS attracts more clients and bigger tips so is worth $500 / shift or more. * 150 shifts / yr that's a lot of extra money.

@Hotstuff -- Good point. Lots of women have to hustle drinks as part of their job. It is a good way to keep the club management off her back. Which isn't bad money for one $8 coke / hr.

@shadowcat -- Yes a lot of clubs serve coffee. Not all, but many. It isn't good for business if the customers start feeling too tired and leave. @Sofa -- I'd go for a dancer who is drinking coffee. She might be in the mood to hustle less and be grateful for an experienced customer.

@papi -- Hmm I'm leaning towards this is coming from advertising copy or something. You are right this doesn't sound like a review, more like an ad, " then when your ready you can get a dance in the back". Other things don't small right, "the regulars are quite plentyfull in this place" anyone who can scan a club and identify regulars is going to have more insight than the rest of this review indicates. I'm not sure this is coming from an owner but something is way way off.

@Papi -- If you are looking for hit and run grind and grope clubs that allow dancers to mess with you while on stage and the dollar parade. Other than that... yeah there ain't much you can do.

Not sure what setoff the 1/2 dozen anti SW posts a day here but then again I don't know the history. @Subraman -- Well I posted on that thread and you can see I agree with you. It doesn't always work but it often does. I think you are absolutely spot on. I think the SW idea that most dancers are effectively maximizing their income is myth. Dancers, like people in most industries when they are in the game screw up making real time calls. They may in theory and the cold light of day aim for simple revenue maximizing but in practice they have a high stress unpleasant job and finding a good customer where they get a good earn (or sometimes worse) is often what they end up doing in practice. Then add to that there are lots of dancers who aren't even aiming to income maximize. They may be far ahead of money looking for guys who want to do drugs with them. They may be people who don't want to hold down a regular job with regular hours, for a variety of reasons, but aren't terribly disciplined even at work.

@trixxi 3 reasons and of course these can combine. 1) Strip clubs as a topic of conversation 2) I think I know something you don't / you've mentioned something 3) I want more milage First off in general if we are hanging out we need to find topics of conversation. Strip clubs in the area are regular topic of conversation because both the customers and the dancers are interested. So stuff about your clubs, my club experience... is going to come up regularly. My experience is that strippers, and female sex workers in general have a much more intense but limited exposure to the industry than their male customers. So strippers may know a lot about 8 local clubs but nothing about the national scene or about massage parlors, escorts or dominatrixes in their area. Many of them have complaints about the club they are working at that would be very different somewhere else. For example a dancer I was talking to a few weeks ago was unhappy with the touristy nature of her business, and how she had to resell all the time in NOLA. While obviously most clubs survive off regulars. This problem is totally local to her environment and when I told her that I genuinely meant to be helpful. Finally, girls frequently use the club rules as a reason they aren't giving more milage in VIP, LDs... Saying "you should work X" is a way of saying "I'm frustrated about your club rules and if you don't up the milage soon I'm going to stop spending". I fully understand why women want to work in clean clubs but for the customer clean is a negative especially as the night wears on.

Well definitely go with interesting costumes. Stand out. Anyway, just answered a similar question on SW: <I>In terms of makeup I'm going to go with medium. Stay away from bright red lipstick but generally use makeup to bring out your features. Fake lashes, a little glitter (OK I'm corny and old fashioned but damn body glitter on cleavage looks amazing) some rouge, some gloss on the lips definitely or a light shade of lipstick that looks natural but enhanced. I'm going to be seeing your face very close so a base that covers those little imperfections everyone has. Now perfume. One of the things that's fantastic about strip clubs is smelling a woman's hair and neck. Dancers have terrific taste in perfume and sweat enough to put out pheromones but not enough to smell like a girl whose been jogging for an hour. Also I love driving home smelling my shirt and thinking of the girl I just spent an hour in VIP with. Makes me incredibly horny and want to see you again. Again definitely a medium amount of a tasteful perfume stay away from floral scents since those are gross. Hair I prefer curly but only mildly. Don't do anything to your hair that makes it sticky. The important thing is that it smells like women's hair and feels soft and luxurious against my skin. Wash enough that your hair isn't oily but not enough that it has split ends. And BTW definitely long. I want to feel your hair against my skin. In terms of clothing I'd definitely go with something shape enhancing that shows lot of cleavage up top and something that brings out your legs and ass down below (so short skirt or bikini bottom with a heel). The shorter you are the higher you can go with platforms. If you are tall keep the shoes low and if you are short then give yourself an extra inch or two. I'm an average man's height (5' 10") and once you in heels are over my height that's a turnoff. The heels are already making you a lot taller don't make yourself too tall. Any kind of distinctive costume is a winner. Halloween in a strip club is so much fun. Dominatrix boots and a sort of fake leather top work great. A catholic school girl outfit and a half unbuttoned white shirt... You'll have to see what works in your club and for you but don't afraid to go outside the norm. You are supposed to be a fantasy. As for personality. Sexually vibrant and affectionate. Be handsy and aggressive. Touch me when you talk (not necessarily my crotch but my chest, my arms, my face). One of the things men are paying for in a strip club is girls approaching. Be warm and sensual. Look into my eyes. Get more sexual in the lap dance room. Watch for reactions when you talk dirty your fantasies can be a huge turn on or turn off. So be aware and if something your are saying is turning me on keep doing it. Go from hard to soft and back again in about 5 minute cycles. Hope that helps. </I>

When I was at Scores NOLA this week the dancer mentioned the house mom. So they have one, AFAICT services for the girls primarily food.