Alcohol and her time
Subraman
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From the Buying Drinks thread on SW: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
From Yoda: "Trying to use drinks to leverage time with a dancer is a joke that's totally on you. It will last until her feet don't hurt anymore or until she sees another opportunity to sell a dance. "
Not surprisingly, that's the straight-up dancer-pleasing answer. But it doesn't jibe with reality as I experience it in the SC ... keeping a girl in drinks in my experience almost always buys me at least the time it takes for her to finish the drink, and often substantially more -- it's BY FAR the cheapest way to buy dancer time. There are always the super-high-hustle girls who might not go along, especially on a packed Saturday night, but otherwise? What about you guys ... is buying the stripper a drink "a joke that's totally on you", have my experiences been unrepresentative, or is that just SW reality (not to be confused with reality reality)?
From Yoda: "Trying to use drinks to leverage time with a dancer is a joke that's totally on you. It will last until her feet don't hurt anymore or until she sees another opportunity to sell a dance. "
Not surprisingly, that's the straight-up dancer-pleasing answer. But it doesn't jibe with reality as I experience it in the SC ... keeping a girl in drinks in my experience almost always buys me at least the time it takes for her to finish the drink, and often substantially more -- it's BY FAR the cheapest way to buy dancer time. There are always the super-high-hustle girls who might not go along, especially on a packed Saturday night, but otherwise? What about you guys ... is buying the stripper a drink "a joke that's totally on you", have my experiences been unrepresentative, or is that just SW reality (not to be confused with reality reality)?
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Usually, I have the opposite problem. It can be hard to get rid of a dancer who's sat and had a few drinks with me. I doubt its my overwhelming charisma or my vasocongestive inducing good looks. I think some chicks just like to get loaded and have a good time, others probably don't realize or aren't willing to accept that their investment isn't going to pay off.
Yes, exactly my point. It's nearly always a fantastic investment. And even if she was just using it for a break ... well, if she spent 20 minutes with me for a $5 drink, that's fine with me. That said, I don't cynically try to use drinks as a way to screw the girls over: if she spent 40 minutes drinking with me, I'm certainly buying dances. I don't screw the girls over. I'm making the simple observation that buying the girls drinks is, in my experience, a great way to spend your money and almost never a joke on you.
Dolfan: "Usually, I have the opposite problem. It can be hard to get rid of a dancer who's sat and had a few drinks with me".
If I've bought her a "few" drinks, chances are I don't want to get rid of her, I want to do dances. But if I would like to part ways, and she's spent a lot of time with me, and I still nevertheless don't want to dance with her, I'll slip her some cash under the table and tell her I'd like to meet some other girls. She'll usually be happy since the club has no idea and doesn't take any of that cash.
My views on drinks is that there are too many clubs that use the drinks as yet another way to make money. They don't want their dancers falling down drunk, but they want their customers buying as many drinks as they can (note I didn't say buying as much alcohol as they can). So, I think the dancers and the barmaids and the bartenders all have this wink and nod that the dancer gets a watered down drink (unless the dancer does a little kickback to the house or the bartender). The customer gets enough alcohol to loosen his wallet, but the club doesn't want the customers to be falling down drunk, either, with all the problems that brings.
So the dancer drink is less of a clever ploy by the dancer and more of a greedy play by the house. It is true that it in effect buys a dancer's time, but it is little more than that. They are little ticking timers sitting on the cocktail tables, and when the drink is gone so is the dancer. In some clubs, they get their money other ways, so they don't stress the drinks.
Most likely.
Definitely not, they're strippers-behaving-badly to our customers-behaving-badly, complete with venting, lying about how you act in order to impress others, etc. Still, you can find insight in both places if you go through enough posing bullshit. Still, I can't see how a customer who has been around as long as Yoda can say, with a straight face, that buying a girl a drink is a joke on you ... it's just pandering for thank-yous. It's a good purchase, so buy her a drink you cheap fucks, you'll be paid back in spades, it almost always gets you an outsized chunk of time in return.
@Subraman -- Well I posted on that thread and you can see I agree with you. It doesn't always work but it often does. I think you are absolutely spot on. I think the SW idea that most dancers are effectively maximizing their income is myth. Dancers, like people in most industries when they are in the game screw up making real time calls. They may in theory and the cold light of day aim for simple revenue maximizing but in practice they have a high stress unpleasant job and finding a good customer where they get a good earn (or sometimes worse) is often what they end up doing in practice. Then add to that there are lots of dancers who aren't even aiming to income maximize. They may be far ahead of money looking for guys who want to do drugs with them. They may be people who don't want to hold down a regular job with regular hours, for a variety of reasons, but aren't terribly disciplined even at work.
You can know consider yourself officially banned on SW – and if you are not a member; then consider yourself pre-banned :)
All the others posting on this thread are coconspirators and will at least be placed on SW double-secret probation
It was that trouble maker Yoda :)
On another website which shall remain nameless since I am not the type to cross-post or cross-reference :); I’ve often heard dancers stating that they often need a drink; or a couple; in order to do their job – yet other dancers will state that it affects their hustle.
Normally I’m not one for socializing much in the SCs; like “sofakingâ€; I’m in there for a grope and grind fest.
I also like variety and getting dances from many different dancers – so as others have mentioned; buying the dancer a drink can lead her on that you want to spend either a lot of time with her or a lot of $$$ just on her – which is not the case for me – just a couple LDs and I’m ready to move on.
So it just really comes down to a matter of personal preference as with many other SC related things; IMHO.
“… Pet Peeves. Damn, my list of pet peeves at the SC gets longer and longer. My latest pet peeve is buying overpriced drink for stripper, who never drinks the damn thing. Was discussing this with another buddy and he said just say NO. Well one of my favs was giving me a dance and she wanted a drink. She asked me and I said NO (felt like cheap bastard, lol!). So she flags down a waitress and asks again and I said NO again, so she said she would pay for it (still feeling like cheap bastard). The beocming-less-of-FAV stripper girl starts purring and cuddling until the waitress comes back with the drink. By this time I give in and buy it. She is hanging around for couple of minutes and one of her sugar-daddy customers arrives and she heads over there with promise to "be back in couple of minutes". So guess what? She never comes back and never drinks the drink. It is not the price of the thing but the principle of the thing. I have to be firmer with the NO. …â€
https://www.tuscl.net/rev.php?M=C&RID=20…
If you are looking for hit and run grind and grope clubs that allow dancers to mess with you while on stage and the dollar parade. Other than that... yeah there ain't much you can do.
Good point. Lots of women have to hustle drinks as part of their job. It is a good way to keep the club management off her back. Which isn't bad money for one $8 coke / hr.