Comments by joesparty (page 7)

The answer varies with each person, although we all have our financial limits too. But I try to keep it in perspective. I am married, so I'm not looking for girls to date. I am open to OTC but do not actively seek it. For me, it is all for entertainment and personal enjoyment. I think of it like good tasting but empty calorie food: good only in moderation. We cannot survive on donuts alone.

I can count on one finger the number of strippers I've met who have enough street AND book smarts to make it in the non-peeler world. But even she has returned to the club life after her marriage went south. Good for me, but I wouldn't want to be next in line to see if she really is marriage material. It does make for a good fantasy, though: getting to fuck that every single night. Even then, though, who's to say it wouldn't get boring? Biggest red flag in your friend's situation: he's 55, she's 26. She only wants to marry this guy's bank account.

Tracfone. Google Voice is a decent alternative, but then you still have all those calls to/from your GV number on your bill and in your call history, which deleting is a pain, and might still be an issue for your employer. Tracfone, as others have mentioned, can be purchased for cash. You will need to call from another phone to activate (or do it online), and they ask you for a contact phone number, but I just made one up. If the phone gets effed up somehow, it's cheap enough just to buy a new one. A few different models available.

What state are you in? I started this recently and stumbled on (and then was directed to) some state-specific member-only websites that make searching and verifying easier. Send me a PM if you want. It IS possible to get an appointment as a newbie (without any references) without having to give up personal info. Everyone has to start somewhere. None of the girls I've seen know my real name (not even my first name) or where I work. Farmerart has good suggestions for setting a meeting. Also, these various websites (again, PM me for examples) have other methods of getting cleared. There are a lot of girls that see newbies, but everyone is understandably concerned for their safety. Speaking of safety: You should always have yours in mind too. Don't take one for the team (see a girl without any reviews) until you have been in the hobby for a while and are comfortable with how things should work. The chances of having a bad experience or getting setup by Uncle LEO are way too high. A paid membership to TER or some equivalent is critical, but be sure to read lots of a girl's reviews to look for a pattern of shills. Also, look in dedicated complaint sections of each website. Finally: invest in a hobby phone that you don't use for any other purpose. Tracfone is good and inexpensive. I got a phone and 120 minutes for $40 cash. Last thing you want is calls/texts showing up on a bill that your SO will see (or even worse, your boss if you use a work phone).

I've lost track, but I think it's at least 4. Last week was a dry week for me because of work events, but the first two weeks were very successful. My ATF was just back from vacation, so I made a couple extra trips. Planning on another on Monday, assuming the world hasn't ended by then.

If you start asking whether you are a PL, you probably are one. Embrace it. Spend your money wisely.

I applaud others for giving serious tips, but you guys gotta check smokeybear's old posts. He is obsessed with this issue.

Ok, I just checked out your profile, and you're not new here. Not exactly sure what to say here, except that you must be on to something. I recommend you stick to Key West.

I was in Tijuana last summer. Never really felt unsafe. IMHO it is something a PL or hobbyist should try at least once, but I'm not sure I would make a special trip for it alone. I did it during a work trip to San Diego. Or schedule a vacation to southern California.

You must be new here.

Depends on the dancer. If it's someone new to me or someone with whom mileage is not great, I'll let my eyes wander to scope out other talent. If, however, it's my ATF, she has the ability to command my attention like nobody else is in there. I'll sometimes hear funny things like this recent exchange, however. While ATF was very discretely sitting on Mr. Happy and my hands were roaming all over the place, the girl in the chair nearby was telling her guy just what he could and couldn't touch. Made me appreciate ATF even more!

Wait - you SAW this in the VIP? Where the hell were you?

I had been admiring my favorite for a few trips before we actually met. The last time before we spent a lot of time together, I worked up the nerve to tip her on stage. (She gets a lot of attention on stage.) She was very nice about it, and I called it a night. Didn't see her for another 2-3 weeks. Then, a few weeks later, I arrive as she's on stage. We make eye contact, and she gives me that look. After her set, she sits down next to me and snuggles up nice and close. After a nice conversation, she suggests a hot and steamy VIP session. We've clicked well ever since. She does her job really well.

A recent conversation: Her: "What's your name?" Me: "John" Her: gives me a doubtful look--"Is that what it says on your driver's license, John?" Me: "Does your license say 'Dominique'?" Her: "Point taken." I'm with OhioVoyeur. My name is fairly unique, and I don't want to take any chances someone will google me and find my phone number, etc. online.

Yeah, mileage used to be ultra high even in the open in the old days. I'm guessing it'll just take a little while for things to get back to "normal." But the booths offered a layer of privacy for certain types of fun that you never saw out in the open.

I thought about the possibility that it has something to do with the upgrades at Flight Club. I'll miss the privacy for now, but not the actual booths themselves. I'm pretty sure they would have qualified as legitimate biohazards! I showered every time I returned home.

Have you seen this particular girl before? If so, and if you and she seemed to have a good time, you can probably trust that she won't try to cheat you. But if not, tread carefully when things start to heat up. I learned the hard way. It's not terribly convenient to have to say "this might not be in my budget," but that gives her the opportunity to tell you what she expects. If it's too high for you then you can get out then. Much better than her demanding -- extorting -- a ridiculous fee after. And if she is cool about her expectations then you can relax and enjoy the ride.

Whenever possible, I like to sit where I can see the VIP entrance. Extras are the norm at most clubs here. If a girl leaves VIP and doesn't head to the locker room, she's not getting anywhere with me. Last time I was at Bogart's, there was an industrial size purell bottle in that biohazard of a VIP. Ha! To her credit, my girl used it on her chest and hands after we were done.

Here, here, Vince. I notice that sexual chemistry is missing from the list. Perhaps it's implied, given the setting in which we meet our ATFs. My ATF is my ATF because she has all of the 10 attributes on your list, AND because we click well in the VIP. I always leave happy after seeing her no matter what happened that day.

I sense you are focused on Ohio, but if you are seeking good mileage, book a roadtrip to Detroit.

Bogart's has always been hit or miss for me. Extras are almost always freely available, but the talent pool is sometimes very shallow. A few times last month there were no more than 3 or 4 girls working, and if one of them is remotely attractive, she is extremely busy. I also have had the experience where a girl is called on stage while we're in back. Last time, we were right in the middle of the action, which put a big buzkill on the night. My most recent trip, however, things were looking up again. More attractive ladies. I guess the point is, you can't always count on a good time, but chances are you'll find someone who you find attractive. And I agree--Samantha has a great set of tits. Very friendly in the VIP as well.

The rumor, posted in another thread (or maybe it was a review?) was that Penthouse was raided last week. But I've not been able to find any proof in the local news outlets. Seems to be an urban legend at this point. If anyone finds a story, please post a link. This has always been a worry, even though I try to mind my manners most of the time anyway.

I know preferences vary, but you should try Bogart's. It's a "low-end" club much like H8. While you're in the neighborhood, you could also check out the original H8, and Flight Club for a higher-end experience. None of these is perfect, mind you, but might be worth a try in your rotation.

Strippers often tell me what great eyes I have. I originally thought it was mere SS, but it must be true if it keeps happening, right?