Comments by robofan (page 4)

I used to frequent a club where for $50 and any excuse of a special occasion like birthday, promotion, divorce, bachelor party and so on you could get their special treatment for a friend. Their stage was oval shaped and right in the middle of the club giving everyone a good view. They would place a chair in the center of the stage and call up the intended victim plus 4 or 5 of the strippers. The strippers would first remove the guys belt and wrap it around his neck like a dog leash. They would then unbutton and unzip his pants letting them drop around his ankles. Then they would sit him in the chair and remove his shirt usually by ripping it hard and popping all the buttons off. If he was wearing a tee shirt off that went as well. While some of them would be rubbing their breasts in the guys face and giving him a kind of lap dance the others would rip the elastic band off the top of his underwear and put it around his head like a sweat band. Two girls would then get on each side and take hold of his arms and stand him up. Since the elastic had been removed from his underwear they too would drop around his ankles exposing him for all to see. The girls holding his arms would not let him do any kind of cover up. The DJ would then make fun of the guys package. They would then make him get down on his hands and knees and they would lead him around the stage like a dog using the belt around his neck while spanking his ass with ping pong paddles. Finally they would stand him up again and write all kind of lewd stuff all over his body with permanent markers of various colors. I never could figure out how anyone could explain that one to a significant other. I observed this ritual well over a hundred times and only one time did a guy get an erection from the experience. The rest were completely humiliated by the whole thing. Keep in mind that most guys were already pretty drunk before going up on stage but seemed sober coming off. I always wondered what kind of friends would do that to someone. The dancers who participated were the ones that seemed to love abusing the poor guy. The club has since changed ownership and I haven't been there for a while so I don't know if this practice still occurs.

I hate to say this but I think that a lot of the reviews on this site are BS. I see a lot of reviews of many of clubs in the same city with little or no useful information. I see other reviews of clubs that I have been to that I know the person writing the review has never been to. I believe people do this to get free membership. I think if there is one negative to this site which I generally love is that it gives free membership to anyone who writes a review. I believe that this leads to a lot of false reviews just to get a free month(s) wroth of membership. I would like to see this site become a pay site. The cost currently is not that much. I go to enough clubs to write enough reviews to not pay to belong but I prefer to pay. Lets face facts. Band with cost money so if we all paid a small amount then we could eliminate the BS reviews. What do other think? That being said which reviews are the good ones. It is difficult to say. Every club is different every night of the week depending what you are looking for. By that I mean if you walk into a big money club with a bunch of 9 and 10's and you don't have any money and all the dancers ignore you is it the clubs fault or yours? If you go to a neighborhood type club looking for a 10 and all they have is 6's and 7's is that the clubs fault or yours. Evan real club ratings are complex and usually do not contain all the facts. You have to kind of read between the lines. For example if a person goes to a high class gentleman's club and complains about the price of valet parking and the cover charge then the rest of their review will probably be biased. I think with time and experience you will be able to separate the BS from the real.

There is nothing 100% but I would say 99.9%. First of all quit wasting your money on women who just tease you and don't produce unless that is what you like. You need to find out what pushes their buttons maybe its some kind of herbal stuff, liquid or white powder remedies. If they are looking for pure cash then learn to negotiate. If you get taken the first few times don't worry you will get better just give it some time. If your really looking to pay then you will not have a problem finding lots of strippers with a price. It's just a matter of coming to a mutual price that satisfies both of you.

How, I did not say that all the clubs in the top 10 were whore houses just the ones in Tijuana. In fact the Flight Club is my home club and it is definitely a top class strip club with extras. All though with the opening of the Penthouse club in Detroit I predict that the Flight will eventually drop from the top 10 and the Playhouse will take it's place unless LE intervenes. As far as Latina women go I happen to love them. My point was that Tijuana is not the place to find the cream of the crop. I used to live in San Diego so I'm not without experience in this area. I have found much better looking Latina women here in the US as well as Mexico City and Puerto Rico. Sure you can always find a diamond in the rough but it is extremely rare. The OP was looking for a 10 in a $60 Tijuana whore house. I will agree with you and say that there are some hot women to be found there and depending what you like there is lots of fun to be had. Lets face facts though there are no super model types.

My experiences with Tijuana whore houses which is what the so called "strip clubs" in the TUSCL top 10 really are. There will be a few women who are 6's or 7's and perhaps if your are really lucky one or 2 8's but the vast majority will be 4 and 5's. After a few drinks the 6 and 7's will look really good in comparison to the 4 and 5's. You say why is the dancer ratings so high then. Ask yourself this if you had paid to have sex with a 6 would you admit it on an open board or would you say she was a 9 or 10. I don't care what country your in if your only paying $60 for sex your not going to get a 9 or 10. If you want a woman who looks like Laura Zuniga then you are going to have to have Mexican gangster type money and not $60. You ever hear the expression "You get what you pay for?"

I have never read or heard of a single incident where LE was able to obtain a warrant to raid a club based on something written on an internet site. Their usual pattern is to send in an undercover team, witness or experience illegal acts, then leave the club obtain a warrant and return later usually with a full SWAT team to make arrests and write citations. This is how they busted the Flight Club each time it was raided. In the Detroit area there are several local boards where people get very explicit about what they get and how much they paid and none of the clubs ever get raided because of those sites. I believe that most people on this board don't write about getting extras because they want to maintain the illusion that they are someone special and she must only be giving them to me. If you list a menu of HJ for 100 BJ 200 FS 300 and so on then you are no longer special and anyone with the same money can get the same thing. Nothing wrong with that. After all we go to strip clubs to feel good and have a good time. If you want menus with prices then go to an escort.

It's a great idea but for it to happen congress would have to pass some kind of legislation nullifying all the local and state regulations and union contracts which state that whenever an individual works for more than 8 hours in a day they are entitled to time and a half pay. Without this the corporations will never go for it.

As with all women mostly I listen and they talk about whatever is on their minds at the moment.

Bald is beautiful.

I just exited and got back in again and it is still the same. I use IE and am 1024 x 768.

Most places I go now have multiple stages with multiple dancers up at a time. Some have as many as five or six at a time. I wouldn't know who to clap for.

Age does not appear to be the primary determining factor. It seems to me to be a combination of looks and attitude. As soon as either of those begins to slip the market forces of supply and demand will let a dancer know it is time to find another profession. Dancing in a strip club is also one of the most competitive businesses I know. The entry cost is very low and there always seems to be an ample supply of new dancers looking to cash in. That being said it is also seems next to impossible to maintain the proper combination of looks and attitude to continue on for a long period of time. My experience over the years is that only a very small percent of them ever see a 5 year anniversary and even less see a 10 year anniversary.

Since you have already settled on the compensation aspects I will not comment on that but let me point out a few things that you may not have thought about. First let me say that I have gone on several trips with a stripper friend along as a companion. They were all personal vacations though. Therefore I ask do you really want to take a stripper as a companion on a business trip. What will your boss/co-workers/clients think of your judgment if they find out about the situation? Second since the legal drinking age in most places is 21 do you want to take a 20 year old traveling especially if she drinks. You will end up contributing to the delinquency of a minor by providing her with alcohol or end up not being able to enjoy normal adult night time activities with her. Most places will check id. If you are planning on flying she is going to have to give you her real name and address which matches her valid id to get past airport security. This could be an issue for some people. Also they will want her name and id when checking into the hotel. If you are paying with a credit card unless you specify otherwise she will end up with the ability to charge goods and services to your room. You didn’t mention what your personal situation is but if you are married make sure that she is smart enough to not answer the phone in case your wife calls. I could go on and on but I think your starting to get the point. Don't mean to sound like a party pooper but having some experience in these matters I wanted to throw out a few thought starters to help you avoid some pitfalls. At any rate I hope that everything works out for you because when it does you can have a really great time.

Ten years ago all the top tier strip clubs in the Detroit area employed world class chefs and featured fine dining at rock bottom prices to lure customers in. The portions were huge and the food outstanding. Unfortunately the rock bottom prices are gone as are the huge portions but most have retained top chefs and outstanding food. Some even have wine lists that rival any top restaurant. Flight Club, Coliseum, Players, Play House and the new Penthouse Club are the best.

The weekend after 9-11 I was spending a Saturday night at my favorite place when around midnight about 2 dozen officers in full swat gear carrying automatic weapons came storming in. They rounded everyone up and assembled them on the main floor. Dancers on one side customers on the other. They then brought in 2 laptop computers and set them up on the bar. Some female officers were brought in and took the dancers one at a time to the dressing room to get some clothes and id. Then two at a time we were sent up to the bar asked to produce id and it was checked via their computers. If you didn't have proper id or didn't check out you were cuffed and arrested. If you checked out you were given the choice to leave or stay until they were done. Since it was late I decided to leave. I was escorted to the coat check room and allowed to get my coat then escorted to the valet parking booth handed my keys and was told to proceed straight out the door to my vehicle. About half way home it dawned on me that I had been running a tab which I had not paid for. The next time in the place I mentioned it to the manager and he said forget it the night was on them and he apologized that I had to go through all that. I can't say for certain but my impression is that they were some kind of Federal officers and not local. They were dressed in all black with no visible badges or markings. The bar is located in a small suburb and I don't think that their entire police force is that big. Also they were to well equipped for local police plus they didn't seem concerned with any vice type activities. Since another nearby suburb has the largest Arab population outside the Middle East I believe they were looking for specific persons who were suspected to be terrorist supporters or sympathizers. I never asked and figured it was a good time to keep my mouth shut since anyone who gave them any kind of hard time ended up cuffed and face down on the floor. Probably not exactly what your looking for but it did happen in a strip club. Another note of interest I have observed over the years is that local law enforcement in my area likes to raid the strip clubs with the local media along for the ride just before election time.

Years ago there was a dancer who was 6' without heels and had long slender legs. In fact they were so long that she was perfectly positioned for DATY while standing in front of you. They were more prohibitive back then but she could get away with it because if anyone looked in it looked like she was just giving you a close up look. Currently at the place I go most often they don't care anymore so the dancers just jump up on the arms of the cushy leather chairs and stick it in your face. Your choice if and how much you want to dine.

About 3-4 years ago I was in Vegas and through pure luck hit a 10K slot machine jackpot. I decided to treat myself and checked the local escort listings. Lesley Zen was in town and she was on my list of porn stars I would like to do. She arrived at my room and was smoking hot. I believe that she was about 30 years old at that time but her body was unbelievable. Not an ounce of fat anywhere and very tight and toned. She turned out to be really cool and it was great spending time and talking with her. When it came down to taking care of business she had that porn star attitude you would hope for and even though she didn't do anything to me that hadn't already been done before she seemed to do it better. She gave me a once in a lifetime experience. Her cost at the time was $1200 an hour. Was it worth it? For a once in a lifetime experience that fulfilled a fantasy and using money that I had won, absolutely. Having done a porn star already would I spend that amount of money which I had to earn to do another? Probably not.

In the Detroit area strip clubs first appeared in the late 60's around 67-68. Prior to that to see women take it off you had to go downtown to a burlesque theatre. At first the strip clubs were topless only then around 1971 they went fully nude.

Great idea just keep it simple and easy to remember. Something like colored stripper silhouettes. White for 1st review, yellow 2-9, blue 10+, red 20+ you get the idea. Or just use the numbers 1, 2+, 10+, 20+ and so on.

Razor stubble anywhere.

Stay away from Windsor the city passed a no touch law so it's strictly hands off. If your willing to drive that far then just go to the Detroit area. Touching is allowed and definitely encouraged. Trust me there is nothing you can do in any bar in Canada that you can't find in Detroit. My recommendation is drive down and get a room near the airport, plenty to choose from. Around the airport you will find the Flight Club, currently number 8 on the top 40 list and number 2 on the Topless club list. If you don't like it there drive a quarter mile down the street to Bogart's. Within a couple miles there is also the Playhouse and Landing Strip. If you want to stay north of the city you can hit the 8 mile clubs, Coliseum, Players, Trumps. In other words get an area map do some research and come on down and enjoy. There has got to be at least 50 different strip clubs in the Detroit area ranging from dives to some of the nicest gentlemen's clubs in the country. Something for everyone.

The one and only time I have had a chance encounter I was at my local butcher shop buying steaks one Saturday afternoon and the place was packed. I had taken a number and was waiting to be called when I looked and standing next to me was a stripper from the club I was frequenting at the time. She was a solid 10 with red hair flawless skin and a perfect body. She had a killer face beautiful green eyes and a smile that would melt dry ice. At the club she was by far the best looking woman working there and was extremely popular. Whenever I was there she spent all of her time with regulars and I had yet to get a dance although I had tried several times. I immediately recognized her and I could tell by the look of shock and horror on her face she recognized me as well. I decided to strike up a conversation with her. "Hi how are you? Shop here often? What number do you have?" Stuff like that. After getting my steaks on the way out of the place I remember thinking what a lame ass I was. The only thing I could come up with was crap like, you shop here often but in my defense it was a complete surprise and I was some what in shock. The next time I went to the club I was with some friends from work. We had just been seated and ordered drinks. This club had their lap dance area on the second floor and had a narrow metal spiral staircase in the center of the club which was the only way up or down. There she was slowly and carefully descending the staircase dressed in only the tiniest of g strings with her top in hand and her breasts doing that sway and jiggle thing that only a perky natural set of C/D’s can do. Wearing those high heel platform stripper shoes made the climb down quite an adventure. She was so hot looking by the time she hit the bottom of the staircase the whole club was mesmerized by her decent. On the main floor she spotted me right away came directly over sat on my lap and said, "How's your meat?" We laughed and had a great time that night. She became one of my ATF and we eventually developed an OTC relationship. Unfortunately two years later she moved to Los Angles to pursue a career in modeling. I still go to that butcher shop hoping lighting will strike twice.

My experience is that most new dancers constantly get hit on by other dancers until they finally give in and at least try another woman. Once they do some go bi and some stay hetro. Although they all know that most guys like girl on girl action so they all act bi or gay if they think it will turn you on and increase their income.

Great addition and if your open to suggestions I would like to see the ignore feature work as a blocker on the messages. That way if one member starts to get harassing messages from another they can easily take care of it.

The Detroit metro area contains the largest Arabic population outside the middle east. The auto companies also employee a large number of contractors which are comprised mostly of Indians these days. As a result you will find some lovely young ladies from those heritages working in the local strip clubs from time to time. A surprising small number thought when you consider how large of a minority they are in the area. However not so surprising when you consider what kind of background they come from. As far as Persians which are Iranian they are quite rare but you can find one on occasion. I have noticed that the men from these backgrounds who frequent the clubs tend to go for the blonde blue eyed all American types. I guess the grass is always greener.