Personally, I am finding the VIP rooms to be too cramped and dirty for an extended session of DATY. I had a typical example yesterday. The "couch" is so small it's more like a large chair, which means your options are squish together on the couch, have her stand over you and shove her pussy in your face, or kneel down on the floor. I chose option 3, and later regretted it because the floor was so filthy that I had dirt marks on the knees of my pants when I left. For work reasons I am always in a suit when I drop into a SC, and I'm afraid those rooms are just too damn dark to see the dirt.
Assume for my hypothetical that the room is the size of a large closet -- what is your favored technique for licking pussy in the VIP room? (Uh, I mean how to position yourself, not how to use your tongue. I have the latter skill down pat.)
How much of a hurry are you to taste some other dude's jizz. Personally I don't go down on whores, but if that is your trip I'm not knocking you. I just don't get it.
If you got the skill, then you'd have dancers at Angels lined up for your service. (This is probably the case at most stripclubs, imho.)
Seems like having her stand over you would be the best option; floors are nasty and sometimes you get to see just how nasty when a dancer has knelt down to do a good job and then gets up.
Assuming she wasn't full of another's man's passionate pop and she didn't have communicable STDs, then yes sounds like more fun than getting a lap dance or table dance. :)
I don't really like DATY anywhere ... with anyone ... civilian or stripper, in the club or outside.
I had a long-term civilian-life regular girlfriend, once, who tasted OK to me, and I enjoyed having all the control and making her squirm. But it wasn't really so much a "pleasure" to go down on her, nothing that I would call an intrinsic "turn on." It was as enjoyable as, say, wielding a vibrating dildo on her and in her expertly. Nothing in me is really hard-wired to want my tongue inside or near a pussy.
Fifty years ago, when bordellos were illegal in the US, but nobody enforced the law, men in suits carried handkerchiefs. Handkerchiefs have many uses. Placed under your knees, they would prevent any mess from getting on your pants.
I think the best option is to have the lady standing on the same seat or couch as you are sitting on. There's something to be said for a private hotel room or a private bedroom but that's not the issue here. We are talking about the realities of SCs. Those who don't care for DATY can easily avoid it, but why do you feel compelled to post your own personal dislike? Why not just address the issue as posed by NJSCFAN.
I have a cartoon in my pocket that
I have been sharing. This old scag is laying on her back in bed, spread eagled. Her pubic hair is scattered everywhere and you can almost smell the tuna. The guy is standing at the foot of the bed, dick pointing down. He says "Eat it! It took me 10 beers just to look at it!"
I am too not a favorite of going down on a chick. It really does not stimulate me. But if I know that if I stimulate her and know that it is going to reciprocate, I can do it. Especially with these hairless tunas . Damn how I used to hate pubic hair in my teeth. Thank god we now have dental floss
There are some girls who have pretty pussies, and a certain body type actually creates what is to me a "feminine" look to pussies. But mostly they're ugly things. A skinny blonde girl with very little body hair, well shaved pussy, and "puffy" pussy lips is OK to look at; otherwise YICK.
I love DATY. To this day, I can't believe that I refused my h.s. girlfriend for a year and a half because I thought it was "gross." (Silly girl, she should have just cut me off from her blow jobs, and I'm sure I would have relented in a matter of hours.) I do agree that pussies are ugly, but I just don't look, and I am so near-sighted that by the time I get close enough to see it, my face is buried in poon. Finally, in college, a girl didn't ask, just pushed my face down. For the first ten seconds, I thought I would die. After that, I never wanted to come back up... (Note: A friend of mine who thought he was gay confirmed that impression in college when he threw up while going down on a girl...to each his own.) Enough with nostalgia...
I have gone down on four dancers, but the physical circumstances break down into two categories. First, in those private rooms that have big chairs, I have sat upright in the chair as the dancer stood on the seat of the chair, feet on either side of my legs, and lowered her pussy onto my waiting face. The other set-up is as found at Oasis in Atlanta (funny you should mention that one, Chitown...), in which there is a bed or futon. In this situation, I laid on my back while the dancer straddled my face, standing on her knees, my favorite DATY position. At one of the clubs, not Oasis, the dancersat facing away from me and jacked me off as I ate her out. A memory that will doubtless flash before my face as I lie dying....
Minnow, I appreciate your kind words about my Tijuana reviews, but I would not go down on a TJ bar girl, unless I knew I was her first customer of the night. You can tell this if they take your money, hold it in their fist, kiss the money, and make the sign of the cross. This is apparently a superstition that it said to guarantee a good night's take. Even then, you don't know if her man at home did her before sending her out to work. I would have no hesitation going down on an escort, as they are pretty low mileage, and many are only with one guy in a day. I'm going down to TJ (and going down _in_ TJ) in two weeks, and looking forward to it immeasurably...
Under no circumstances would I go down on a TJ street girl, although they are said to be much cleaner than streetwalkers in the US, and articles published in peer-reviewed medical journals seem to bear this out.
Dancer standing up on chair/couch is great way to DATY. She gets to move around and exert pressure where it feels good for her, and I can play hide the finger the whole time. Spin her around and sample the other side; then she's ready to slide down and sit on ME. Obviously good hygene is mandatory for this type of foreplay. With a new dancer or one I've not had dinner with, if it smells bad, I gently push her back a bit and no DATY. I can't remember one ever "insisting" on it and not backing off if I didn't seem interested.
I don't think I have ever seen an "ugly" pussy. I too like fat bald ones on a petite frame best.
I appreciate the comments that were actually responsive to my post. Thanks.
As for the others, I have never encountered another guy's spunk in dozens of pussies, including eating out countless sex workers. If I ever encounter a woman that gross I avoid her entirely, not just for daty.
As for the comments about avoiding daty in the SC, again, I see no difference between that and other sexual activity.
As for the comments about guys who are grossed out by pussies and/or daty (and I think THAT is the real underlying issue), hoestly I think men who do not like pussy are either gay, stuck in a period of infantile arrested sexual development (they want their mommies' breasts), or don't know what they're missing or just are selfish/lousy lovers. And that's fine with me -- nothing I like better than bedding a woman who tells me afterward how most other men do not know how to make love to a woman. If you guys think a woman has most of her nerve endings inside her vagina then you should take a course in female anatomy.
Years ago there was a dancer who was 6' without heels and had long slender legs. In fact they were so long that she was perfectly positioned for DATY while standing in front of you. They were more prohibitive back then but she could get away with it because if anyone looked in it looked like she was just giving you a close up look. Currently at the place I go most often they don't care anymore so the dancers just jump up on the arms of the cushy leather chairs and stick it in your face. Your choice if and how much you want to dine.
At the Mons many years back when it was a cheap dive this super hot latin dancer was trying desperately to get a some DATY while on the main stage. The young customer was looking hungry, but declined. I had an extremely powerful urge to just chow down because not only was she exceptionally beautiful so was her pussy, but pathophobia won out.
If a customer had chow down at the main stage, then would there have been a problem? I doubt it; it was that type of dive. With its current pricing it might as well be a gentlemen's club.
As far as positions go in VIP for DATY. I have to agree with mmdv26. Not only does this allow for good access but it also allows the dancer to "Look Out". Teamwork is important. Neither wants to get busted!
sitting with the girl standing over me is my preferred position. good technique here often leads to even better things. plus it shows you are not selfish.
A few years ago, I knew a dancer at Cheetah in Atlanta through a friend (another dancer.) The Cheetah girl (they actually call themselves that) and I had one of those interesting friendships where we had a kind of attraction - she was very hot - but somehow it just wasn't quite sexual. So we'd hang out, be sort of affectionate but not really, I'd hang out at her house sometimes, and she at mine, but we never fucked - sort of like the ex-girlfriend that you're cool with now.
Anyway, one of our little pleasures together was totally raw conversation - I felt I could tell her anything, and she could tell me; so, it wasn't unusual to talk to each other about any fuck adventures we'd had lately.
Now, her thing was that she LOVED cum - she was a swallower, and she didn't like to use condoms for vaginal or anal sex either(she liked the guys to scoop it out of her so she could lick it off his fingers, that kind of thing.) She was also a prolific slut, and would fuck her customers if they were big spenders (always OTC... ITC is sort of challenging in the Cheetah!)
So one day she bragged about the previous day - she had fucked five men in succession - separate events, so the guys didn't realize they were just links in her chain. She was laughing because she'd used no protection at all, and couldn't believe that, for example, guy number four was licking the remains of three other guys' loads out of her pussy. I was pretty horrified (I knew one of the guys - and no, I never mentioned it to him, what's the point?) but of course it was funny in kind of a ghastly way. One feels for the fifth guy. She was just tickled that she had secretly fucked these guys over (she had major sexual power issues) and was laughing like crazy telling the story. Ick.
I'll say this - if you ARE going to DATY a stripper, be sure it's at the beginning of her shift. And hope she doesn't have some kink where she gets off on loading her pussy up before work. Cause you just NEVER know.
As something slightly off-topic do you guys have any precautionary procedures for afterwards? I'm asking because there's a dancer I'm thinking about asking to do this with, but a few months ago I noticed a cold sore on her (facial) lip and it freaks me out a little bit. (I know there's different kinds of herpes viruses but I've never done DATY ITC before.)
My current somewhat half-assed plan, taken indirectly from the Ron Jeremy school of hygiene (which nevertheless seems to have worked for him), is to order a vodka on the rocks as soon as I'm done and gargle with it and spit it back in the glass while hopefully not looking too odd, to kill potential cooties. I don't particularly want to bring a dental dam with me into a SC and please, no "spitter" jokes.
"Under a microscope, HSV- 1 and 2 are virtually identical, sharing approximately 50% of their DNA. Both types infect the body's mucosal surfaces, usually the mouth or genitals, and then establish latency in the nervous system. For both types, at least two-thirds of infected people have no symptoms, or symptoms too mild to notice. However, both types can recur and spread even when no symptoms are present.
The primary difference between the two viral types is in where they typically establish latency in the body- their 'site of preference.' HSV-1 usually establishes latency in the trigeminal ganglion, a collection of nerve cells near the ear. From there, it tends to recur on the lower lip or face. HSV-2 usually sets up residence in the sacral ganglion at the base of the spine. From there, it recurs in the genital area.
Even this difference is not absolute either type can reside in either or both parts of the body and infect oral and/or genital areas. Unfortunately, many people aren't aware of this, which contributes both to the spread of type 1 and to the misperception that the two types are fundamentally different.
'People don't understand that you can have type 1 genitally or orally, that the two types are essentially the same virus,' says Marshall Clover, manager of the National Herpes Hotline. One type is associated with stigma, the other is "just a cold sore"- our society has a euphemism for it so we don't even have to acknowledge that it's herpes.'
The common myth is that HSV-1 causes a mild infection that is occasionally bothersome, but never dangerous. The reality? HSV-1 is usually mild, especially when it infects the lips, face, or genitals. However, in some cases type 1 can recur spontaneously in the eye, causing ocular herpes, a potentially serious infection which can lead to blindness. In very rare cases HSV- 1 can spread spontaneously to the brain, causing herpes encephalitis, a dangerous infection that can lead to death. HSV-1 is also the usual cause of herpes whitlow, an infection on the finger, and 'wrestler's herpes,' (herpes gladiatorum) a herpes infection on the chest or face. . . .
By comparison, HSV-2 is widely believed to be a painful, dangerous infection that affects only people with very active sex lives. The reality? Some 22% of adult Americans from all backgrounds, income levels, and ethnic groups have HSV-2. Like HSV-1, type 2 is usually mild-so mild that two- thirds of infected people don't even know they have it. Type 2 rarely causes complications or spreads to other parts of the body. It is the most common cause of neonatal herpes, a rare but dangerous infection in newborns; however, type 1 causes up to one-third of neonatal infections.
The two types do behave somewhat differently depending on whether they are residing in their site of preference-the mouth and face for HSV-1, and the genital area for HSV-2. But both types are quite common, and under most circumstances neither is a major health threat. That's one reason medical professionals tend to dismiss HSV -2 despite the emotional trauma a diagnosis can cause for a patient." http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html
The foregoing sounds reassuring, but some people probably do suffer severly from either form of herpes.
Been a long time since the advent of new diseases, but some years ago, at a place in Memphis, pushing the limit to DATY at your comfortable lounge chair was very possible. One remarkable time was with a young sweetheart who would stand and straddle you on the chair - I teased her quite a few times with my tongue on the front of her panties (no bad reaction from her) then got brave and pulled the bottom to the side so I could suck her like ya should. One or two dances later she had her panties off one leg and down (one foot still in them) and pushed heaving onto my tongue while I held her by the butt. Straddling your chair is best so you can steer her from behind with your hands. I didn't get off that timer, but she sure did.
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1) Get a clean hotel room
2) Hire an escort
3) Read chitown's 2 writeups on Adelitas & reconsider your activities. (He wears suits, too)
If you got the skill, then you'd have dancers at Angels lined up for your service. (This is probably the case at most stripclubs, imho.)
Seems like having her stand over you would be the best option; floors are nasty and sometimes you get to see just how nasty when a dancer has knelt down to do a good job and then gets up.
Assuming she wasn't full of another's man's passionate pop and she didn't have communicable STDs, then yes sounds like more fun than getting a lap dance or table dance. :)
I had a long-term civilian-life regular girlfriend, once, who tasted OK to me, and I enjoyed having all the control and making her squirm. But it wasn't really so much a "pleasure" to go down on her, nothing that I would call an intrinsic "turn on." It was as enjoyable as, say, wielding a vibrating dildo on her and in her expertly. Nothing in me is really hard-wired to want my tongue inside or near a pussy.
I have been sharing. This old scag is laying on her back in bed, spread eagled. Her pubic hair is scattered everywhere and you can almost smell the tuna. The guy is standing at the foot of the bed, dick pointing down. He says "Eat it! It took me 10 beers just to look at it!"
I am too not a favorite of going down on a chick. It really does not stimulate me. But if I know that if I stimulate her and know that it is going to reciprocate, I can do it. Especially with these hairless tunas . Damn how I used to hate pubic hair in my teeth. Thank god we now have dental floss
I have gone down on four dancers, but the physical circumstances break down into two categories. First, in those private rooms that have big chairs, I have sat upright in the chair as the dancer stood on the seat of the chair, feet on either side of my legs, and lowered her pussy onto my waiting face. The other set-up is as found at Oasis in Atlanta (funny you should mention that one, Chitown...), in which there is a bed or futon. In this situation, I laid on my back while the dancer straddled my face, standing on her knees, my favorite DATY position. At one of the clubs, not Oasis, the dancersat facing away from me and jacked me off as I ate her out. A memory that will doubtless flash before my face as I lie dying....
Minnow, I appreciate your kind words about my Tijuana reviews, but I would not go down on a TJ bar girl, unless I knew I was her first customer of the night. You can tell this if they take your money, hold it in their fist, kiss the money, and make the sign of the cross. This is apparently a superstition that it said to guarantee a good night's take. Even then, you don't know if her man at home did her before sending her out to work. I would have no hesitation going down on an escort, as they are pretty low mileage, and many are only with one guy in a day. I'm going down to TJ (and going down _in_ TJ) in two weeks, and looking forward to it immeasurably...
Under no circumstances would I go down on a TJ street girl, although they are said to be much cleaner than streetwalkers in the US, and articles published in peer-reviewed medical journals seem to bear this out.
I don't think I have ever seen an "ugly" pussy. I too like fat bald ones on a petite frame best.
As for the others, I have never encountered another guy's spunk in dozens of pussies, including eating out countless sex workers. If I ever encounter a woman that gross I avoid her entirely, not just for daty.
As for the comments about avoiding daty in the SC, again, I see no difference between that and other sexual activity.
As for the comments about guys who are grossed out by pussies and/or daty (and I think THAT is the real underlying issue), hoestly I think men who do not like pussy are either gay, stuck in a period of infantile arrested sexual development (they want their mommies' breasts), or don't know what they're missing or just are selfish/lousy lovers. And that's fine with me -- nothing I like better than bedding a woman who tells me afterward how most other men do not know how to make love to a woman. If you guys think a woman has most of her nerve endings inside her vagina then you should take a course in female anatomy.
At the Mons many years back when it was a cheap dive this super hot latin dancer was trying desperately to get a some DATY while on the main stage. The young customer was looking hungry, but declined. I had an extremely powerful urge to just chow down because not only was she exceptionally beautiful so was her pussy, but pathophobia won out.
If a customer had chow down at the main stage, then would there have been a problem? I doubt it; it was that type of dive. With its current pricing it might as well be a gentlemen's club.
Dancer: "Uhhh... yeah, that's cause you have me so turned on, baby"
Guy: "Anything for you, babe!"
...
Yeah... I'll pass, thanks.
O.
A few years ago, I knew a dancer at Cheetah in Atlanta through a friend (another dancer.) The Cheetah girl (they actually call themselves that) and I had one of those interesting friendships where we had a kind of attraction - she was very hot - but somehow it just wasn't quite sexual. So we'd hang out, be sort of affectionate but not really, I'd hang out at her house sometimes, and she at mine, but we never fucked - sort of like the ex-girlfriend that you're cool with now.
Anyway, one of our little pleasures together was totally raw conversation - I felt I could tell her anything, and she could tell me; so, it wasn't unusual to talk to each other about any fuck adventures we'd had lately.
Now, her thing was that she LOVED cum - she was a swallower, and she didn't like to use condoms for vaginal or anal sex either(she liked the guys to scoop it out of her so she could lick it off his fingers, that kind of thing.) She was also a prolific slut, and would fuck her customers if they were big spenders (always OTC... ITC is sort of challenging in the Cheetah!)
So one day she bragged about the previous day - she had fucked five men in succession - separate events, so the guys didn't realize they were just links in her chain. She was laughing because she'd used no protection at all, and couldn't believe that, for example, guy number four was licking the remains of three other guys' loads out of her pussy. I was pretty horrified (I knew one of the guys - and no, I never mentioned it to him, what's the point?) but of course it was funny in kind of a ghastly way. One feels for the fifth guy. She was just tickled that she had secretly fucked these guys over (she had major sexual power issues) and was laughing like crazy telling the story. Ick.
I'll say this - if you ARE going to DATY a stripper, be sure it's at the beginning of her shift. And hope she doesn't have some kink where she gets off on loading her pussy up before work. Cause you just NEVER know.
O.
My current somewhat half-assed plan, taken indirectly from the Ron Jeremy school of hygiene (which nevertheless seems to have worked for him), is to order a vodka on the rocks as soon as I'm done and gargle with it and spit it back in the glass while hopefully not looking too odd, to kill potential cooties. I don't particularly want to bring a dental dam with me into a SC and please, no "spitter" jokes.
The primary difference between the two viral types is in where they typically establish latency in the body- their 'site of preference.' HSV-1 usually establishes latency in the trigeminal ganglion, a collection of nerve cells near the ear. From there, it tends to recur on the lower lip or face. HSV-2 usually sets up residence in the sacral ganglion at the base of the spine. From there, it recurs in the genital area.
Even this difference is not absolute either type can reside in either or both parts of the body and infect oral and/or genital areas. Unfortunately, many people aren't aware of this, which contributes both to the spread of type 1 and to the misperception that the two types are fundamentally different.
'People don't understand that you can have type 1 genitally or orally, that the two types are essentially the same virus,' says Marshall Clover, manager of the National Herpes Hotline. One type is associated with stigma, the other is "just a cold sore"- our society has a euphemism for it so we don't even have to acknowledge that it's herpes.'
The common myth is that HSV-1 causes a mild infection that is occasionally bothersome, but never dangerous. The reality? HSV-1 is usually mild, especially when it infects the lips, face, or genitals. However, in some cases type 1 can recur spontaneously in the eye, causing ocular herpes, a potentially serious infection which can lead to blindness. In very rare cases HSV- 1 can spread spontaneously to the brain, causing herpes encephalitis, a dangerous infection that can lead to death. HSV-1 is also the usual cause of herpes whitlow, an infection on the finger, and 'wrestler's herpes,' (herpes gladiatorum) a herpes infection on the chest or face. . . .
By comparison, HSV-2 is widely believed to be a painful, dangerous infection that affects only people with very active sex lives. The reality? Some 22% of adult Americans from all backgrounds, income levels, and ethnic groups have HSV-2. Like HSV-1, type 2 is usually mild-so mild that two- thirds of infected people don't even know they have it. Type 2 rarely causes complications or spreads to other parts of the body. It is the most common cause of neonatal herpes, a rare but dangerous infection in newborns; however, type 1 causes up to one-third of neonatal infections.
The two types do behave somewhat differently depending on whether they are residing in their site of preference-the mouth and face for HSV-1, and the genital area for HSV-2. But both types are quite common, and under most circumstances neither is a major health threat. That's one reason medical professionals tend to dismiss HSV -2 despite the emotional trauma a diagnosis can cause for a patient." http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html
The foregoing sounds reassuring, but some people probably do suffer severly from either form of herpes.