Comments by WiseToo (page 7)

Your Party Utopia ad sounds like a typical NYC ripoff or scam.

Ask the bar staff, "Do you have anything to eat here?" They will immediately get a food / drink menu. Then with the menu in hand sit down with a dancer and ask her if she has a menu. She'll think you're clever and laugh. Then you can discuss her menu under the pretense of looking at the food / drink menu.

One time when the dancer said that if I didn't like the dance she would refund my money. I couldn't stop laughing.

I think a good number of these protesters are also there to meet girls and get laid.

"Dorian Graylee, an employee at Kittens Cabaret in Seattle, hopes this tragedy is a wake-up call to everyone in the industry to promote safety both inside the club and after working hours." It's easy to promote safety after working hours. Just don't work OTC after working hours.

Girls built like Alexis Texas remind me of a Mack Truck. And Mack Trucks are not soft.

The campus demonstrations are a protest against genocide. And in addition to US aid that includes the universities supporting or working with Israel in order to advance its genocidal military and starvation campaign in Gaza. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) pointed out that 70% of the death /casualties in Gaza are women and children. Netanyahu has said Israeli forces were expected to eventually invade Rafah, with or without US support, despite repeated warnings against doing so from Biden and other White House officials. There are around 1.4 million civilians estimated to be seeking refuge in Rafah after following direction from Israel to leave their homes in northern Gaza. An Israeli airstrike killed six workers with the World Central Kitchen and their Palestinian driver as they were leaving a warehouse in central Gaza. The group has just delivered about 100 tons of food aid and was driving in armored cars labeled with World Central Kitchen logos when the strike hit. Biden issued his sharpest criticism of Netanyahu after the attack, warning U.S. policy on the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza would now be determined by “immediate” steps Israel needs to take to reduce an “unacceptable” humanitarian situation. The conversation marked a notable change from Biden and his team since the war broke out last October.

"That's one of the dumbest things ever, nobody is gonna be down with or vote for somebody that admits to killing a young dog. So she's out." Yep, I agree. Remember when Mitt Romney seemed to be a strong front-runner for the GOP nomination, but the story of his putting his dog, Seamus, in a carrier on his car roof for a 12-hour family trip made him appear heartless and cruel. And killing a young dog is worse. She's done.

"I prefer to give them a positive reason to move on. I've tried 'I'm waiting for someone else". That good if it's true, but if not then often they want you call your bluff and they'll try to get you that 'someone'." I've used the "I'm waiting for someone else" excuse many times and here's how I handled the responses when they call my bluff. Dancer: Hi, my name is Lavender. What's your name? Me: Joe. Dancer: Nice to meet you, Joe. Did you just get here? Me: I haven't been here that long. Dancer: Can I join you at your table? Me: I'm waiting for someone. Dancer: What's her name; I'll get her for you. Me: I don't remember her name. I'm not good at remembering names. Dancer: Oh, can you describe her? Me: She's a tall thin blonde. She said she would be here, but she hasn't arrived yet. Dancer: I'll keep you company until she arrives, O.K? Me: Thank you, but she may not want to come over if she sees you with me. So I don't think that's a good idea. Dancer: I see. Well it was nice meeting you, Joe. Me: It was nice meeting you, too. I'm sorry I forgot your name. Dancer: Lavender. Me: Yes, Lavender, Bye.

The whale was smiling; just got a few scratches under the chin from some happy, excited ladies. Lucky guy!

@Book Guy She must be doing something right, otherwise the house mother would have a talk with her. And if she didn't change her behavior the house mother would cut back her schedule. Of course, if the club is desperate for dancers, putting up with her is better then having a shortage or no dancers at all. Also, she may not need the money. She may have a regular civilian job that pays well and the club just provides the opportunity to meet guys she finds appealing all in a safe environment. And she may get lucky and find a guy she finds appealing who has deep pockets.

I think a lot of guys do believe a young stripper might have a civilian romantic relationship. That can explain why a good number of guys try to arrange an OTC with a stripper. The OTC could be something simple, initially like a dinner date with anticipation that if all goes well something more is expected in the future. These guys are spending money on a date just like they would with a civilian girl so they fantasize that a romantic relationship is possible, just give it time. He knows the stripper may have other customers, but when she is with him he fantasizes that their relationship is different from the others. I think this is actually quite common.

@venroc - It was located somewhere along 9W in the Newburgh - Poughkeepsie area. It was a small free standing building. The club and building are long gone. I was pretty good at painting bullseyes.

I think you need to define exactly the meaning of "two way full contact to stripper" so we are all working with a common understanding. A lot of what goes on in a club may depend on whether alcohol is served, whether the stripper is fully nude and whether "home rule" takes precedent. That is, the local municipality can have its own rules which can be more restrictive than the state law. In general, in New York a stripper can be fully nude on stage and for lap dances if the club does not serve alcohol. For a club that does not serve alcohol, a customer cannot touch when the stripper is on stage, but it's O.K. to touch, with permission, during a fully nude lap dance, except touching her private areas. Years ago, I was at a club in the Hudson Valley and a fully nude dancer handed out paint brushes. The customers could buy a paint brush and "paint" her in any area using some paint while she was fully nude on stage. Apparently, a "paint brush" is not touching! The owner of another club that didn't serve alcohol told me I could "tip" while the fully nude dancer is on stage, but no touching. And tipping is strictly prohibited when the dancer is off stage or when the dancer does a lap dance. He wanted to immediately know if any dancer should ask for a tip or suggest that you will get a hotter dance for a tip. It has to do with what the local municipality considers to be prostitution. The nuances depending on locality can make a big difference in your experience.

It depends on the customer. The stripper may dislike herself for doing the type of work she does, but make no mistake she values or "likes" customers who make her job easier such as those who are well groomed, in shape, have money, and don't give her a hard time (pun intended) vs having to put up with beligerent out of shape drunk slobs. I would say 10% fall into the "likes" category.

@grammanu95 "Brandon is another failed Boomer." Brandon is not a boomer. He was born Nov. 20, 1942. Boomers are defined by the birth years 1946 - 1954. Brandon is a member of the Silent Generation. Trump is a boomer. He was born June 4, 1946. And I certaintly wouldn't characterize Trump as a failed boomer.

This political OP should be in the political discourse forum; not in the front room. Have some respect and follow the rules, please!

I've never been asked whether I'm married. But if I were asked, I would turn it into a kind of joke and respond with a question like, "You seem interested in me. So are you looking for some extra fun outside of the club?" The dancer now has to explain. She might have a good story, who knows. Her response and attitude will then determine whether I'll be looking for another dancer.

@25 Does that statement apply across the board or just to Joe Biden? It applies across the board to democrats, in general.

"Wages keep going up. Inflation keeps coming down. Inflation has dropped from 9 percent to 3 percent — the lowest in the world and trending lower. The landing is and will be soft." President Biden (March 7, 2024)

I go to strip clubs to enjoy the scintillating conversation and the opportunity to experience some fine cuisine. The fact there are attractive young women walking around in their underwear who sit on my lap and dance is just a distraction. Sometimes they accidently put their hand on my crotch and boobs in my face. I tolerate this behavior and tip them quite well because I don't want to be rude.

What's the problem? The club names probably describe the girls working there. One club has girls that look like a Rhino and the other has girls that look like a Hippo.

The bouncers must have been asleep on the job.

The DJ can play whatever he or the dancers want. I don't have any preference, but just play a long song and don't cut it short when I'm getting a lap dance.

I think a lot depends on the bouncer at the door. If I know the bouncer and look familiar, I'm not asked for my license. At RI Dolls a new bouncer asked for my license, he held it up to read it and returned it. I asked about scanning and he said the license was scanned when he held it up to read it, but they now use a camera. I don't know if he was telling the truth, but it's sneaky to scan a license without asking permission and it might even be illegal.