Which state "does not prohibit" two way full contact to stripper?

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• WiseToo

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  3 months ago

  I think you need to define exactly the meaning of "two way full contact to stripper" so we are all working with a common understanding. A lot of what goes on in a club may depend on whether alcohol is served, whether the stripper is fully nude and whether "home rule" takes precedent. That is, the local municipality can have its own rules which can be more restrictive than the state law. In general, in New York a stripper can be fully nude on stage and for lap dances if the club does not serve alcohol. For a club that does not serve alcohol, a customer cannot touch when the stripper is on stage, but it's O.K. to touch, with permission, during a fully nude lap dance, except touching her private areas. Years ago, I was at a club in the Hudson Valley and a fully nude dancer handed out paint brushes. The customers could buy a paint brush and "paint" her in any area using some paint while she was fully nude on stage. Apparently, a "paint brush" is not touching! The owner of another club that didn't serve alcohol told me I could "tip" while the fully nude dancer is on stage, but no touching. And tipping is strictly prohibited when the dancer is off stage or when the dancer does a lap dance. He wanted to immediately know if any dancer should ask for a tip or suggest that you will get a hotter dance for a tip. It has to do with what the local municipality considers to be prostitution. The nuances depending on locality can make a big difference in your experience.
• Puddy Tat

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  3 months ago

  It really depends on the city more than that state, and who greased palms at city hall.
• drewcareypnw

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  3 months ago

  I think in WA there's a 3 foot rule. Thankfully I have a 3.5 foot cock so the dancers can still get their work in without violating the laws of our fair state.
• venroc

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  3 months ago

  @PuddyTat69 Could you tell me where was the club you used brush?
• doctorevil

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  3 months ago

  In general, this is much more of a city/county issue than a state issue. There may be some states with statewide laws addressing this, but my experience is the rules vary dramatically by city/county within a state.
• Puddy Tat

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  3 months ago

  @venroc, wasn't me, that was @wisetoo. Never heard of that, but in my experience clubs with big signs that say "no touching" are covering their ass and at least a few girls there will give extras.
• venroc

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  3 months ago

  @wisetoo Could you tell me where was the club you used brush?
• WiseToo

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  3 months ago

  @venroc - It was located somewhere along 9W in the Newburgh - Poughkeepsie area. It was a small free standing building. The club and building are long gone. I was pretty good at painting bullseyes.
• ClubFan81077

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  3 months ago

  @WiseToo - primer during song 1 and paint during song 2? :)
• Manuellabore

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  3 months ago

  This kind of granular detail is interesting to kick around on a discussion forum but really affords limited actionable intel, since there are dancers in more restrictive jurisdictions who will say "screw the law" and their clubs will let them get away with it, and there are clubs in more liberal jurisdictions that impose stricter limitations on contact that the dancers abide by. I've gotten a BBBJ in an Ohio club that serves alcohol and FS in a notorious NY non-alcohol club. Much more useful to research TUSCL reviews and, of course, do some trial and error, since, as always, YMMV.
• Book Guy

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  3 months ago

  This is partly a law question. What are the laws? Within that understanding, this question asks "which State" so I'm assuming we're talking about differences among USA's 50 States and potentially a few other jurisdictions. As I understand it, US Federal law and court decisions demand that stripping remain legal -- taking clothing off is a form of expression protected by the First Amendment and some other stuff. So the OP is probably asking more a question of nuance. For example, (a) which States or smaller localities have narrowed that Federal holding so that some portions or forms of stripping are still illegal, while still honoring the Federal mandate to allow it; (b) which places have laws addressing LAP DANCING and other types of personal dances (f.e. the "sweetheart dance" which is a stand-up-and-sway-together experience offered at some few clubs in some few locations) as opposed to merely addressing STRIPPING; (c) which places have laws that tend toward transgressing the Federal mandate, and maybe have laws under category (b) which are such violations; and finally, (d) which of these rules are actually enforced. It's thorny. My categories (b) and (c) potentially overlap, for example. I think the most important question is not "what are the rules," I think the most important question is (d), "what is the enforcement." TLDR -- IMO it's more important to understand what is allowed in practice, rather than what the law says in theory.
• ArtCollege

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  3 months ago

  Book guy has it down. In Oregon, two-way contact seems legal; why does OP think it's not? Read some reviews and in most places there's touching of boobs, grinding; and in many, some stick shifting. In a few, fingering of the V and ITP. Full service on occasion. Enforcement can be local police or the liquor licensing agency. In Portland, OR, the liquor commission is pushing for cameras in lap dance areas. But the city police ask callers to file reports online for anything less than murder or disrepecting an unhoused person.
• Book Guy

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  3 months ago

  First, ROFL @ "murder or disrespecting an unhoused person" I get the tone. :) Seems to make clear just how mangled law-enforcement's priorities have had to become. At least murder is still on the list of things within their field of attention, but ongoing break-in and armed robbery? file on-line please ... (and I usually vote Democrat, don't go all woke on me about how the "unhoused" are people too, if you do then you've missed my point). Second, comparing. Where I'm at, in Louisiana almost everything is illegal, including stripping and gambling (both are against the State constitution; but "gaming" has been carved out as explicitly legal, so we have casinos and -- New! -- sports betting as long as the wager is on a "game of skill" not random chance but we also have a State Lottery that is mandated to be totally random so yeah anybody's guess). The Louisiana anti-stripping law can't be enforced because it and its ilk have been deemed Unconstitutional on aforementioned First Amendment grounds. Further, in New Orleans, contact lap dancing is explicitly illegal, so all the booths in all the clubs have little footstool-sized knee-high tables so that the clubs' owners can claim to have set things up not for LAP dances but rather for "table dances" and therefore any contact was just a transgression on the part of the young lady who is an independent contractor etc. etc.. So, at the right price, the girl who kneels in front of me and whips my dick out may have broken fewer laws than the girl who leaves me all zipped up but sits on my lap and gyrates with her tits out.
• gammanu95

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  3 months ago

  Enforcement rarely matches up to the law, especially state laws. For instance, I heard that Fort Myers had a 3- foot rule, but I've never had a problem with full contact lap dances.