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8 years ago
I had a crush on a waitress. I even tipped her $20 during the holidays, and she was kinda surprised because most patrons do not tip her so generously. She hugs me often when she sees me (she's also a manager) and she is GORGEOUS. The fact I'm close to her father's age keeps me honest. But man, does she have a great ass and she is so sweet.
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8 years ago
"I spent a few hundred grand in the period of 3 years."
OUCH.
" I tried to treat her like a person, not an object. I told her how I felt. She told me she felt the same, but wasn't ready for a relationship. We emailed, never texts or calls. Sometimes she'd let me hang for a few days but never when she was working and thought I might come in."
Here is a rule that we should always follow. Not only in the strip club, but in the office, in the gym, and in the bar.
NEVER JUDGE A PERSON BY THEIR WORDS, JUDGE THEM BY THEIR ACTIONS. The fact she never tried to escalate the relationship beyond strategic emails was indicative of her intentions.
You may have had noble intentions, and she may/may have liked you on a personal level, but you met her at her job and fell into the dreaded customer category. Not withstanding the fact, you admittedly spent a significant amount of cash on her.
You are not a loser. You simply met the wrong person at the wrong time. Learn from it. Improve yourself. Don't make the same mistakes again.
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9 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Last night's Memphis-Cincinnati game was a great game if you're a fan of offense.
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9 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
TACT. A simple "That sucks. Are you in the mood for a private?" should suffice.
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9 years ago
Enjoy the memories Smitty. So, the truth finally came out? She is still doing tricks on the side but moved on to other clients?
All part of the game. Especially with the youngsters we both like. Sooner or later, they become more popular and or more stuck up and they change.
"nother dancer says she was in the dressing room in street clothes earlier getting something out of her locker. This speaks volumes to me. She has an OTC date with the new guy. She came by to pick up an outfit. She's done the same thing for me before a date. It is the only reason besides truly being sick that she would get out of work tonight. "
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9 years ago
Most of my favorite dancers are in their early 20's, and I doubt any of them have even heard of that POS site.
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9 years ago
If the club regulation is designed to keep out prostitutes, that's a valid rationale.
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9 years ago
An exotic dancer once asked me to co-sign for her apartment. Her story was that she was living with her parents and attending school but because of the other kids in the house she was unable to study effectively. Bear in mind that her whole tone and body language was entirely unbelievable, as if she had been told what to say by her husband (she is married but doesn't know that I know) and a less polite gentleman would have laughed in her face or confronted her. Needless to say, she did not get me as her cosigner and given her amateurish delivery, it's dubious to think anyone else fell for it either. Not that I would have done so regardless.
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9 years ago
Just because you and the Ds are not doing business anymore, that doesn't mean you have to completely burn bridges. If you want to still tip her out of respect and to keep a door open, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you are trying to cultivate another girl there, discretion is a must. I would try to run your system when DS is not working. DS may try to cock block you with some of the other dancers there.
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9 years ago
Smith, how much exactly were you paying her and for how long? I saw you write where you offered her $1500 and she turned you down?
Vegas pros can get guys to pay a heavy price for escorting. Its just like the strip clubs: tourist market.
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9 years ago
Anyone with basic street smarts or whose worked security (as I have) in the past knows. Some women can be as aggressive as men or worse. You can see it in bars, night clubs, concerts all the time, where women drink and their issues manifest themselves violently. Let's not put em on a pedestal.
The OP was smart to usher her out of the room without retaliating. It can take a lot of self discipline for a man not to put the smack down on a ho when she is trying to put hands on him.
And if you slap her back and the law gets involved, you can bet some of these chickenshit cops might try to take you downtown on some bullshit charges.
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9 years ago
Smith, my YDLH (Young Dream Latina Hottie) was giving me problems recently, and THEN KABOOM! I got a new favorite who's also young with a better personality to boot and better tits.
You get knocked down then you get back up. I am not going to call them "whores" or otherwise dehumanize them like some people here like to do, but I will say that dancers are by and large replaceable.
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9 years ago
Smith, we have our different philosophies (you an extra guy and me a grinddawg), but we have a common ground in our mutual affinity for the "baby strippers": the young, hot, friendly, bubbly dancers who are new to the game and still have their integrity or haven't learned how to hustle yet.
Trust me, when I tell you I feel your pain, brother. I had a baby stripper whose first dancing job was at a club I frequented and we danced on and off for nearly six months. She used to spend a decent amount of time with me and opened up some about her personal life.
But after some time in the game, she became more of a hustler and it became more business. I ended up firing her. But I still think about this dime piece often. A twenty one year old vision of beauty with a pretty face and killer ass and nice rack.
The good news is I soon found new dancers that provided the same emotional response of the young dream hottie fantasy. That is the greatest thing about our hobby: they are ALL replaceable. It may take some time and some extra expenditures of capital but sooner or later you will be in a similar or better position than you were in before.
Drink a Pale Ale. Smoke a blunt. Time heals all wounds brother. You will bounce back and soon she will be nothing more than a faded pleasant memory brother.
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9 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
Reading SJG is like reading a poor man's (a really poor man) version of Noam Chomsky or Michael Parenti. Some of his theories are interesting.
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9 years ago
Smitty, it's the quality of her dances that make her so attractive even though she doesn't correlate to my usual "profile". She has some excellent grinding skills, opened her top for me to touch bare breast, and she doesn't pressure me into more expensive dance options. Her performance in the lap dance exceeded some of her contemporaries.
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9 years ago
RIP
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9 years ago
Bro, dude, hermano, compadre, cheese-meister. Thanks for the laughs.
"Anyway, we did more chatting and it got old a little bit before taking her to the lapdance area. A little shit-test from my side did something good for me, though.
Finally, she said she wanted to go out and have dinner with me next week. We'll take it slow and sweet, she needs more time getting to know me."
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9 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
I don't want to open up to a stripper because that's not what I'm there for. I view the dynamics as that of a business relationship. I'm paying for a service. Yes, service will improve with greater rapport, but over time it will become boring and I will find another one. If I wanted a genuine connection, I would seek out a woman who does not sell physical intimacy.
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9 years ago
This is pure hippie liberal bullshit. If the parks and other public places in San Francisco allow homos, feminists, transformers, and other groups to hold rallies in the parks, then by law they have to also allow access to these facilities by faith based organizations. No government rule can limit otherwise protected free speech based on the message unless it's narrowly related to a compelling government interest.
"To an extent they style their actions like a protest. But they aren't actually saying that the laws are wrong. They are saying that their religion places them above the law. This is not the same. They are actually asking government to shred the Constitution and endorse them and submit to them."
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9 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
I don't think of it as "chump stuff". I think you're being too judgmental. Not everyone is looking for more of an emotional connection or repeat business with a sex worker. Some guys just want to bust a nut and move on to the next one and have no desire for OTC.
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9 years ago
Threatening to call the cops is a weenie move unless there is evidence the club is in on the scam. Otherwise you are punishing the club owner for the criminal acts of an independent contractor by getting the law involved, and believe me the city or county will document this as a call and response to a larceny at the club. It goes on the club's business record and enough incidents can lead to a license getting yanked or other negative repercussions.
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9 years ago
I remember at one of the Las Vegas clubs, the girl asked me to give the bouncer a gratuity. It is for more privacy I guess. You pay $100 for the VIP for 3 songs then you have to pay $44 drink minimum and a $10 or $20 spot for the bouncer. So after everything you just paid $160 or so for 15 minutes but some of the girls there are very hot.
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9 years ago
If I was going to do an extra, I think the price would have to be negotiated up front. Your post shows that girls will be all over the spectrum in terms of how much they want. And who's to say things may not get ugly? The dancer could get mad and call in some muscle, threaten to call the cops and say you raped her, try to blackmail you, etc. A lot of bad things can happen. Best to trust the dancer as much as you can and make sure price is firm. They may try to renegotiate and try to make a little extra tip while stroking your johnny but I guess that comes with the territory.
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9 years ago
Some guys prefer the bouncer help them out by finding them a girl. They don't want to deal with the hassle of "interviewing" dancers and are just looking for a dance or maybe extras. As long as the customer is happy with the service he is getting, I don't see anything wrong with tipping a bouncer. Some of you guys tip strippers ridiculous amounts of money but then will hate on a door guy trying to make a few extra bones for himself. Bros b4 hoez!
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9 years ago
Not to be a contrarian, but don't think you're in her "inner sanctum", sporto. More like the multi marketing list.
Contemporary definitions for inner sanctum
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