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My relationship with the DS is over

JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:54 AM
Eleven months ago the most incredible dancer I've ever met walked into my life. Last night, she walked out. Well, truthfully she walked out a few weeks ago. I just didn't confront the reality of the situation until last night. I have told the absolute truth here about my relationship with her because it was so amazing I couldn't keep it in. I guess maybe I realized subconsciously that it couldn't last. Writing it down was a way to memorialize it. It was a way of pinching myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming. Well, now that it's over, I will tell the truth about how it ended. This so sounds so cliche, but it was best this way. If she were just some run of the mill ho, then nothing would change. If she were just like all the others, then she'd stay dependent upon me. But she's not. Not even close. As usual, I can't share everything. I might be able to share more later. I've probably been too paranoid about protecting her identity. But I can't make those kinda decisions now. I'll think on it. I'd like to tell more about her, so you can appreciate how exceptionally rare she is. Or at least how rare she was. What happened that I can disclose last night? It's quite simple really. She makes so much money itc, doing lame semi air dances at a non-extras club, that it no longer makes sense for her to go out with me. She makes $1K easily almost every night. Sometimes it's $1.5 K. And she's had $2K plus nights. Those big nights are growing. Things keep looking up for her. A dancer making this much itc no longer needs to supplement it with outside money. Even outside money from a guy who pays like I do. She's developed an amazing System for parting PLs from their money. Using her good looks, amazing hustle, and relationship with bouncers, she's making so much doing VIPs most of the night that she can easily afford to walk away from a huge spender like me. And she's not having sex with a single customer besides what we were doing. Call me as pathetic as you want, but I am the only customer she ever fucked for money. I am the only customer she ever had sex with in a VIP. She is not, and never has been, an extras girl. That's one thing that made her so amazing. She was my ho, and only my ho. I fucked her bareback for all that time, and never caught anything. And I still wouldn't catch anything if we could do it all over. I didn't want it to be over. Fuck. What an incredible understatement that is. Here's my pathetic truth. I offered her $1,500 per session to keep going with me. It hardly even registered with her. I offered her $2,000. She said no. Later in the night I offered her $3K. I was prepared to offer her 5. I wouldn't have gone any higher, and that would've just been for one final session. But I stopped at 3. Cause it would do no good. She would've said no to 10. She was my ho, but she's not a ho any more. In a weird way, I was kind of proud if her. She has built herself into the baddest bitch in this club. But I saw her first. I knew exactly how amazing she was from the very outset. Nobody saw it then except me. Now, for some reason, everybody seems to have discovered what I saw. I can compete for her monetarily against almost every guy in this high end club. But I can't compete collectively against every guy in the club. The PLs here collectively pay her a fortune, and they get almost nothing from the encounter. Stupid little fuckers. I can't compete against that. I knew it was truly over last night when she was giving me, me of all the people, a lame VIP dance. She was dancing for me like she dances for others. I'm the guy that was planning a trip to Hawaii with her. And I'm sitting there getting a fucking air dance. So it's over. Of course she wants to keep seeing me itc, but she's gotta know that I'm gonna walk. I all but said as much last night. She knows how much I understand strip clubs, and I won't spend on her like these other idiots -- to get teased and leave with blue balls. But she makes so much money now she doesn't care that much about loosing my money. There's another PL in the crowd tonight that pay her upwards of two thousand per night (yeah two thousand dollars) just to sit and talk in VIP. He's rich. He comes in all the time and is as obsessed with her as I am. But his $ makes me look like a pauper. And there's a ton of guys with lots of money right behind him. They get no mileage from her but they spend, spend, spend, just to see her naked and be in her presence. The bouncers and the waitress want her to dump me tonight and go dance for that guy. He tips everybody itc big bucks so they love him. But she doesn't do that to me. She leaves him waiting to talk to me. Cause she knows he'll be there when I'm done. The big spender has been out spent. She doesn't want to admit what we had. She's afraid that I'll tell other in her club what we did. She was only an itc girl with one customer, and she knows it would hurt her for that info to get out in this club. She asked me to promise that I'd keep quiet. But she needn't worry. I'm a man of integrity. I would never do that. And there is a positive side to all this. Last night saved me a fortune. I really did need to stop spending so much on her. I seriously considered cutting the ties, or at least cutting down on our visits, to save cash. Now she's made that hard decision for me. Well, now I'm gonna call my wife and get back together with her.

112 comments

  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    Just kidding about that last point. What I'm really gonna do is go see DS2. When you fall off the horse, you get right back on. It was an incredible ride.
  • Mr_O
    9 years ago
    I had to go back, being new here, and read the entire DS story. True or not, seems like a great, although expensive ride! In reality, I did "fall" off a horse when I was about 8 years old. Took me years to get back on one. I only busted my skull. Seems you busted your heart. More difficult to mend.
  • motorhead
    9 years ago
    "I’ll go home and I’ll think of some way to get her back. After all, tomorrow is another day!”
  • chessmaster
    9 years ago
    Say it ain't so! NOOOOOOOO!
  • chessmaster
    9 years ago
    In all seriousness, fuck that. $3000, you could get a few pornstars or escorts that only fuck celebrities for that.
  • PhantomGeek
    9 years ago
    Sorry to hear that, John. If you were in the area, I'd offer to buy you a beer and let you commiserate. Good luck with DS2. (And, please, someday, point me to that meadow filled with unicorns, preferably the inexpensive ones.)
  • tumblingdice
    9 years ago
    You've gotta know when to hold'em Know when to fold'em Know when to walk away Know when to run
  • BigChas
    9 years ago
    My bet is. If you totally cut her off she will be calling on you again. These other guy's will get tired off pissing away all their money and not getting a lot more. Plus that big spender might run out of money. Have you ever watch the show AMERICAN GREED on CNBC? He sounds like one of those thieves from some scam he is running. A lot of them piss away the money in strip clubs like he is doing now. And as you know. When one girl starts getting a lot of attention the others think she is doing a lot more and they want some too. Give it six months of no cash and she'll be back begging to suck you off for less.
  • tumblingdice
    9 years ago
    BigChas!Last call.
  • bubba267
    9 years ago
    Sorry to hear. I can honestly say I know how you feel....except for the $3K part. Don't second guess yourself, as I've done. You helped create what she is today, especially in the self confidence arena, but honestly, would/could you have played the cards any differently and attained the same amazing 11 month experience? Explains why DS2 was important. What's known as a contingency plan....but it still has to pain your heart to lose that special connection. Hang in there....don't smoke too much dope in this state of mind. It can depress just the same as it provided intensified desire.
  • GoVikings
    9 years ago
    When I read the thread title...my guess was that it ended because she did something terribly wrong. Like she did something to lose your trust. Anyway, sorry to hear that John, but all good things must come to an end
  • twentyfive
    9 years ago
    To JS69 most of us know how you feel because we have all had similar experiences with these girls but let me tell you that it gets better and hopefully you get smarter because of this. Eventually all of these girls do the same thing and you start to realize that no matter how much you spend whores have no loyalty and you may not realize it but you still have the upper hand. Here's how ! Use that cash you have buy a few toys (a boat, a great ride ) find a few buddies and play golf or go fishing or learn how to play in a casino. Word will get back to her eventually and I guarantee she will call you eventually. But by the time she calls you you will be enjoying yourself and may not want anything to do with her. Trust me on this one,there are lots of absolutely drop dead geourgous broads out there that love to fuck guys with money for free just to be part of your lifestyle and you will find one of them will turn you on just as much and more but now you will have lots of great stuff to do all of the time and these girls will be chasing you and your ego will love it.
  • horny480
    9 years ago
    Now i know what PL, means on this site. Definitely not being a PL for dancers. You guys are PATHETIC LOSERS, for believing this, Delusional Disorder Person.
  • tumblingdice
    9 years ago
    ^^^^WOW,WOW.
  • Dougster
    9 years ago
    Think you'll get a life JohnSmith? How many years left in your mid-life crisis?
  • Dougster
    9 years ago
    Lol! That JS's post was some of the funniest shit ever of this site! Classic!
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    is it next month already? my how time flies [view link] “August 8, 2015 • @JohnSmith69 “…she is totally unlike any dancer I can possibly imagine. But the job is slowly but surely having an impact on her. The changes are very subtle so far, but I recognize them. How much strip clubs will change her eventually remains to be seen.” and so it begins... spoiler alert: she isn’t the one who is changing. the fog of John’s dream is beginning to lift. if he is lucky he will awake relatively unscathed. if not his dream stripper may become a nightmare he is unable to ever awake from. be sure to tune in next month for the latest twists and turns of yet another PL drama brought to you by TUSCL”
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    oh and go easy on trying to drown your sorrows in gravy. i wasn’t really serious when i gave you that Hendrix advice about shooting your old lady down and going to Mexico [view link] “August 27, 2015 • ^^^^^ ooops. sorry. my bad. that was advice for next month after you go, well you know, after you go all san_jose_guy crazy from too much weed and too much gravy”
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    sorry to be all sharkhunter like with the three posts in a row but can we get the retarded DS and LDK deleted from the glossary now
  • Lone_Wolf
    9 years ago
    JS69: I've always enjoyed reading about your DS. Thanks for sharing. Below are some random thoughts. What a nice run. Eleven months bb with a beautiful woman you consider a ten is fantastic. Nicely played. Seems you've been very generous with her. If one of my favorites pulled any shit like this with me they wouldn't see another dime from me but you are upping the ante. Start spending that cash on honey's that will appreciate you. Finally, I suspect that you either are refusing to share or are in denial about the real reason why it ended. I doubt any dancer would walk away from a whale like you just to hustle ITC. There is far more to this story. It is easy to become to clingy with these honeys, I don/t know. Hay, cheers for your fine DS2. Now go find DS3.
  • rockstar666
    9 years ago
    Sorry you broke up, but to be honest I'm not all that worried about it. You seem to have several fall back options.
  • chessmaster
    9 years ago
    "Whores have no loyalty." Twentyfive for the win! Did you really think she would be your* ho only forever?
  • bvino
    9 years ago
    Even though this Stripper story had all the familiar elements it was , at least , well written. The arc of these relationships is too predictable to be a novel read but I enjoyed the sage nevertheless. Good luck on your next tale/tail. She will not pulling that kind of money forever and you could still keep touch and catch her when she falls.
  • shadowcat
    9 years ago
    I disagree with those that think she will be back. None of mine ever did. But there is always fresh meat at the market.
  • rh48hr
    9 years ago
    JS - the guys thing is u didn't throw all your eggs in the DS basket. You have DS2 plus video girl and I'm sure you will add to the roster. $1500 a session? Wow! No wonder these ho's are giving it up. Money talks no doubt. I hope she appreciates what you did for her, but on some level I don't know if she does.
  • Meursault
    9 years ago
    Since she works as a stripper, presumably at an above ground non-Mexican strip club, why can't you say where she works? The original line that you were keeping her to yourself doesn't hold up now that she has moved on to 1.5K a night air dancing.
  • Meursault
    9 years ago
    Since she works as a stripper, presumably at an above ground non-Mexican strip club, why can't you say where she works? The original line that you were keeping her to yourself doesn't hold up now that she has moved on to 1.5K a night air dancing.
  • metaldude
    9 years ago
    John, sorry to hear that the ride is over, but like others have said I would be amazed if in 6 months or so she isn't asking you to go back to your prior arrangement. Hang in there.
  • Meursault
    9 years ago
    ^^ sorry about the double post (some how I had myself on ignore)
  • tumblingdice
    9 years ago
    Dear John,leave the back door open.
  • ATACdawg
    9 years ago
    The parting still hurts no matter how long you've seen it coming. At least DS2 and video girl are in the wings.
  • azdd
    9 years ago
    Thanks for giving us all vicarious OTC thrills reading about your adventures with the DS. You will always have great memories, and I agree with the previous comment that you may see her again. It might not return to what you had, but if she sees a dip in revenue, or craves the intimacy you brought to her, I wouldn't be surprised if she agrees to a limited reunion tour. Good luck.
  • Mate27
    9 years ago
    Will she still smoke weed with you?
  • Dancer_
    9 years ago
    Oh nooooooo! I am so sorry:( I enjoyed reading your stories about her.
  • sclvr5005
    9 years ago
    Shocking? Hardly. Did you really think it was a forever thing? You were only ez cash for her from the get go.Time for you to move on.
  • jackslash
    9 years ago
    I'm sorry you lost your DS. No one with a job and a life can expect to have a long relationship with a stripper.
  • wongy
    9 years ago
    I'm glad I got to see a picture of you DS before you parted ways. When one door closes another one always opens. I mean holes not doors.
  • chessmaster
    9 years ago
    I'm with meursault. Tell us where she works at least.
  • knight_errant
    9 years ago
    No time to read all the comments right now so I apologize if I am being repetitive of someone else but your story JS (and I feel for you) just goes to further solidify the ol' tuscl chestnut that they are ALL about the money. All of them. Every last DS one of them. Consider it a market correction. That's why it helps to have a diversified portfolio :)
  • rickdugan
    9 years ago
    I think you're being shined on a bit about the reason for her refusal to see you OTC again. I can't believe that she suddenly went from a point where it was worth it to do so to one where it was no longer so seemingly overnight. In my opinion, while good ITC money may have been a factor, other forces may have been in play as well. Maybe there have been changes in her personal life that have led her to stop seeing you OTC. Maybe she just can't cope with providing sex for money anymore. She may even just be tired of dealing with you (I don't say that in a mean way - shit happens). But you know what? The reason doesn't matter. I agree with shadow in that I don't think that she'll be back either. I've seen this sort of thing several times before. In my experience, once they decide to stop, the decision is usually pretty firm. Time to find the next contestant.
  • grinddawg
    9 years ago
    Smith, we have our different philosophies (you an extra guy and me a grinddawg), but we have a common ground in our mutual affinity for the "baby strippers": the young, hot, friendly, bubbly dancers who are new to the game and still have their integrity or haven't learned how to hustle yet. Trust me, when I tell you I feel your pain, brother. I had a baby stripper whose first dancing job was at a club I frequented and we danced on and off for nearly six months. She used to spend a decent amount of time with me and opened up some about her personal life. But after some time in the game, she became more of a hustler and it became more business. I ended up firing her. But I still think about this dime piece often. A twenty one year old vision of beauty with a pretty face and killer ass and nice rack. The good news is I soon found new dancers that provided the same emotional response of the young dream hottie fantasy. That is the greatest thing about our hobby: they are ALL replaceable. It may take some time and some extra expenditures of capital but sooner or later you will be in a similar or better position than you were in before. Drink a Pale Ale. Smoke a blunt. Time heals all wounds brother. You will bounce back and soon she will be nothing more than a faded pleasant memory brother.
  • JamesSD
    9 years ago
    Nothing lasts forever, even cold November rain
  • crazyjoe
    9 years ago
    Enjoy it while it lasts and good riddance. On to the next adventure
  • Papi_Chulo
    9 years ago
    She should have wrote you a “Dear John” letter.
  • Papi_Chulo
    9 years ago
    One can only speculate as to the real reason(s) – women are often good at hiding the truth (and strippers even better). I doubt the ITC $$$ is the reason; but that is only my glass-half-empty opinion looking from the outside in – possible reasons: + she may have a love-interest/BF in her life and does not want to be fucking somebody else – most women want to be in relationships especially young ones (vs PLs that can get by w/ just fucking) + she may have a sugar-daddy that is setting her up real good and she can't deal w/ 2 PLs at the same time + she got tired of the “relationship” + wongy sent her a pic of his huge dick and she realized what she had been missing and dumped you I doubt it was a financial decision unless someone else is paying her big $$$ and I doubt that would be for just air-dances (perhaps going on dates; vacations; sex; etc) - just my thoughts. Many strippers *do* come back when they lose a nice income stream, but if she's is all you say she is then perhaps she can still bank and not need your income. Easy come easy go.
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    What the fuck. I'll tell the rest of the story. None of your guesses are right. This was really about her success in the club to a great extent. She is making a fortune itc without a lot of mileage. She works 5 nights a week now instead of the usual 3 cause she's making a killing. This was a main factor. The other thing going on is that she got pregnant a few weeks ago. No it was not mine. 100% positive. She had an abortion. And she fucking returned to work the night of the procedure cause she makes so much fucking money itc. I don't understand women so I don't fully understand how the pregnancy/abortion played into all of this. But it wasn't a coincidence. Our relationship took a dive at about the same time that this shit hit the fan. I doubt that she has a boyfriend. I think it was a guy she dated but not seriously. But I don't know for sure. And I'm not worrying about it or trying to figure it out. Just telling you guys cause you asked and are interested. I won't share her club right now. Maybe later. But I want to think about that a while.
  • lopaw
    9 years ago
    I know its a cliche, but "better to have loved....."
  • Clackport
    9 years ago
    She reminded me of how my ATF works ITC. My ATF suckers PL's with her charm and looks, and gets them to pay outrageous dollars for VIP, and in VIP she gives air dances. I at least had a little game to take her OTC rather than waste my time getting air dances ITC. Nevertheless JohnSmith, at least you have the memories, nothing lasts forever.
  • shadowcat
    9 years ago
    So JS69 - You spoiled her with the big money and it went to her head. You lost her and fucked it up for other prospective customers. Now you also know that you were not the only one going bare back with her. Might want to do another STD check.
  • Dancer_
    9 years ago
    ^ And I warned him to be more careful when it comes to bareback sex with strippers in another topic but I wasn't heard. I don't mean to be obnoxious, however, I have no idea how you could be 100% sure that kid wasn't yours.
  • shadowcat
    9 years ago
    Dancer95 - Vasectomy.
  • Dancer_
    9 years ago
    Oh fuck. I didn't think about it
  • GoVikings
    9 years ago
    "I don't understand women" This
  • PhantomGeek
    9 years ago
    "Whores have no loyalty." I can't say that's entirely true. They have a diehard loyalty to one thing: Money.
  • rickdugan
    9 years ago
    JS, you're speculating. You don't really know if it was because of the abortion, a boyfriend, more money, some combination of the above or something else altogether. Dancers tend to lie and hide things from customers, including regulars. Also, unless you are her personal banker, you don't know exactly how much she is taking home. For all you know, she decided to start working 5 days instead of 3 because it was preferable to fucking you or any other guy for money anymore. ;) I think you are chewing on the "why" of it so much because you take it personally. Don't. All that ever does is lead guys to do dumb things, like offering a stripper $3k just to fuck her. ;) The reality is that they would prefer to be fucking and hanging with guys closer to their own age than us, regardless of how much they try to make us believe otherwise. Consequently, these hot OTC gigs always have a shelf life. Once you wrap your mind around these realities, you'll handle the inevitable ends of these train rides with more equanimity. There is always another hot stripper just around the corner waiting to become the next DS.
  • Subraman
    9 years ago
    JS, I'm with Rick, Papi, etc... I know when you're very close, you "know" all kinds of things about the situation, in your gut. And obviously, you're just giving us the outlines of the story... but, it just doesn't add up for me, for a number of reasons. Regardless, you had an epic time, and hopefully you're not too hurt
  • Lone_Wolf
    9 years ago
    Judging by the number of replies, it seems like the DS broke up with all of us. Not just you (sniff)
  • JamesSD
    9 years ago
    I don't actually buy that JS was DS's only p4p customer. I do believe he was the first. But once a girl figures out her price and does it ince, it's easy to say yes again for the same price. I do buy that an abortion can fuck with a 19 year Old brain and emotional state. And since she can make her rent without fucking, the extra cash may not be worth it. Really though, the why doesn't matter. We've all had a fave quit. Some of them come back. Some don't
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    Lone Wolf, thanks for that comment.
  • georgmicrodong
    9 years ago
    Stay out of the rabbit hole, John. Good luck.
  • thunda99
    9 years ago
    JS69 I went through a very similar thing a few years back. Had a an unbelievably beautiful hot girl much younger than me all to myself for a few months. I knew it wouldn't last but the first few days and weeks after she walked away were tough! Now I look back on it and high five myself and smile that she was in my life for a while. And for the record there is another special one out there on the horizon that will pop up when you least expect it!
  • Subraman
    9 years ago
    "Judging by the number of replies, it seems like the DS broke up with all of us. Not just you (sniff)" Yeah, I know, I feel like going to see my ATF and giving her a piece of my mind
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    thunda, thanks for the perspective. You should participate in the discussions more often.
  • mikeya02
    9 years ago
    John, do you like this girl? At the age of 19 she has been turned into a high priced whore, hangs out with drug dealers, probably fucks them to live the life, has an abortion cuz there's no decent man around her. And no, she does not know what she is doing.
  • Papi_Chulo
    9 years ago
    FWIW – 11 months (almost a year) is a good run with a fave dancer – many civvy relationships often don't last that long.
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    mikey, of course I like her, and of course she has fucked up her life. But it started off so differently. Some daily l'll share the whole story, or at least a lot more of it than I have. But I gotta let some time pass before I'll be in the mood for that.
  • Corvus
    9 years ago
    Hang in there John, it will pass and the memories will be beautiful again soon enough. At least she is alive and didn't kill herself driving impaired like a girl of mine did 8 months ago. And it's hard enough to try and figure out what goes through a woman's mind. Even tougher a 19 year old girls mind. The abortion probably played a big role.
  • jester214
    9 years ago
    Maybe for the best.
  • grinddawg
    9 years ago
    Smith, my YDLH (Young Dream Latina Hottie) was giving me problems recently, and THEN KABOOM! I got a new favorite who's also young with a better personality to boot and better tits. You get knocked down then you get back up. I am not going to call them "whores" or otherwise dehumanize them like some people here like to do, but I will say that dancers are by and large replaceable.
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    @grinddawg. he doesn’t want advice right now. he is busy turning the myth that never really was into the legend that never really was. it’s a first puppy love kind of thing except for old, er excuse me, for middle aged PLs.
  • shailynn
    9 years ago
    You don't realize it today but just enjoy the time you had, take a break and someone else will walk into your life before you know it.
  • Dougster
    9 years ago
    Wonder if JohnSmith will go into a funk over this and kinda let himself go? It can be devastating when hookers move on.
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    ^^^^^^ Dougster you are a heartless fuck. can’t you see he is deeply hurt and mourning for his lost weed connection?
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    Thanks to everyone who shared words of encouragement and consolation. I didn't really think about what, if any, responses this post might bring. I simply felt like I should say something since many of you have been so nice about me sharing my DS exploits. It's hard to find people with whom to share strip club experiences. Most people wouldnt understand or care, or if they did care it would only be for judgment and criticism. It's nice to have a forum to share with people who understand. And I totally agree with the common sentiments expressed in the responses. My time with her will soon be among some of my favorite memories. Now I've got a date with DS2 coming up, video girl after that. I had too many strippers and knew I was going to have to get rid of one of them. I just thought it would be video girl.
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    @JohnSmith69 "I had too many strippers and knew I was going to have to get rid of one of them." i know what you mean man, it doesn't get any easier with age does it? [view link]
  • snowtime
    9 years ago
    JS. Sorry for your pain. I don't post often but have vicariously enjoyed your adventures over the last few months. Judging by the number of posts many others have as well. Since you have two back up plans I suspect you will get over this quickly. With the money you are not spending on DS you should be able to have lots of fun.
  • MrDeuce
    9 years ago
    I know the real reason she moved on: She was about to turn 20 and knew you would be trading her in soon for a newer model :) Seriously, JS, I'm sorry to hear of this loss. I'm sure you're grieving in a sense but it sounds like you have some consolation prizes.
  • sharkhunter
    9 years ago
    js69 lost his weed connection? Oh, he must be devastated.
  • Dougster
    9 years ago
    Lol!
  • magicrat
    9 years ago
    For some reason I thought of lopaw's line....I will beg for pussy and I will pay for pussy but I'll be damned if I'll beg to pay for pussy. I will use that one often (hopefully at least!)
  • alabegonz
    9 years ago
    A loss is loss, dude. No matter how you rationalize it, it all comes down to this: It's all in your head. Take it from a Zen quote. It's not her problem, the problem is in your head.
  • skibum609
    9 years ago
    I wouldn't pay $1,500.00 to meet Jesus, let alone pay a hooker that kind of money. I can relate to and understand absolutely n one of the original post.
  • Lone_Wolf
    9 years ago
    Prediction. - JS will start fucking DS again within two weeks and proclaim this mess a big hormonal misunderstanding
  • chessmaster
    9 years ago
    John, give her my number. Thanks.
  • san_jose_guy
    9 years ago
    jS69, sorry to hear that its ended for you. Remember I told you that divorce tears one apart. It can be so bad that any ongoing relationships and one's career can be destroyed. Try to stay out of trouble and just be with your feelings, while you consider what sort of a new life you want to build. SJG [view link]
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    Shark, the loss of weed supply is no problem. I'm just gonna sit near shadowcat's corner of Folllies and I'll have all I need. Lone Wolf, I wish you were right. But you're not. Skibum, it's easy to be judgmental when you have a wife who is a sexual freak. Not many guys have that. Chess, wouldn't do you any good. She's always been a low mileage dancer except with me. I know that sounds naive but I know for a fact that it is true. What has changed is that I'm now in the same low mileage category as all other customers. Only difference is I don't pay for low mileage and her other customers do.
  • pensionking
    9 years ago
    .... I will beg for pussy and I will pay for pussy but I will be damned if I will beg to pay for pussy. Fucking awesome words for us all to live by!
  • Experimental
    9 years ago
    Sorry to hear about your situation JS, I enjoy reading your posts about exploits cuz you seem to be having fun and it shows in your writing.
  • Experimental
    9 years ago
    er, fun, except in this case of course!
  • Dougster
    9 years ago
    Lol!
  • seaboardrr
    9 years ago
    JS, I’m gonna be brutally honest so don’t get mad at me. I wrote this a couple days ago but have been letting it simmer on my laptop. I’ve really debated with myself whether or not to even post this. I don’t care about the whole “Is the DS real or not” argument. I take everything you post at face value so I believe what you say. I see 2 ways this happened based on the info you’ve given: 1- She’s cooled her jets with you because she realized she’s been a personal whore to a much older PL. The pregnancy and abortion could’ve been SS. 2- Let’s assume she really was pregnant and had an abortion. This surely fucked with her head and made her reconsider what she was doing with you. You may have asked her if she was ok or wanted to talk about it and she prolly said she was fine and it was no big deal. You bought this because you’re a guy and immediately switched gears to try and setup your next sex session. This made her realize she was nothing more than a personal whore to a much older PL. Maybe she was needing a friend and was hoping you were more than just a john…..literally. Blaming it on the money she makes ITC is just a way to make yourself feel better. If she wasn’t suddenly feeling like the whore she’s been for the past year she wouldn’t turn down the kind of money you say you’ve been throwing at her no matter what she’s making ITC. I have no idea if she’ll get over these feelings and come back for more. Maybe, maybe not. Either way you had a good run and you have others already there to take her place. She wasn’t your friend. She was a rent-a-ho and you knew from day 1 this had a time limit. I’m not calling her a ho because she’s a stripper either nor am I trying to be derogatory. I’m calling her a ho because she’s been spending time with you and fucking you simply because you pay her to do so which no one can deny makes her a ho. She could’ve been a civvie and I’d still call her a ho since she was doing P4P. I really know nothing of your situation though so I could be way off base. It’s just the way I see it based on what you’ve posted.
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    seaboard, your explanation makes complete sense. Thanks. Her making more $ itc is the excuse she gave me. That explanation fit the facts, but that doesn't mean that it was the real motive for her decision. Your explanation makes a lot of sense. She is not an extras girl and never fucked customers with any regularity besides me. I always wondered how she reconciled being a ho to me with the fact that she was otherwise a low mileage dancer. Maybe she just ignored the question for as long as she could, and she dumped me once she confronted the question and couldn't answer it.
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    I do think she was pregnant. Her breasts grew and were tender just like in a pregnancy. And I could see the tiniest growth of her stomach. She also had the glow that pregnant women get. It made her even more attractive.
  • georgmicrodong
    9 years ago
    @JS: Congratulation on not falling down the rabbit hole. Now get away from the rabbit hole. Even though your situation isn't the same as mine, I see some similarities. I mentioned in the other thread that you might let her know that the door is still open, but reading through this thread again suggests that advice was wrong. As I've mentioned before, if you go much farther, whether it ends well, or badly, it will end. And then there will be pain. I still haven't completely extricated myself from my situation, but I'm making progress. Save yourself the effort.
  • JamesSD
    9 years ago
    I have and old fave whose mileage tanked and I stopped buying dances from, but we're still friendly and I stage tip her like I would any hot girl. She actually uses me when a guy is on the fence by coming to talk to me and making the guy think he might miss his chance. The important thing is to just be chill.
  • mikeya02
    9 years ago
    Keep your chin up
  • mikeya02
    9 years ago
    Broken wings can mend
  • mikeya02
    9 years ago
    100!
  • topmandd
    9 years ago
    I'd be going back to that club and getting dances from every one of her friends - and do it all right in front of her.
  • san_jose_guy
    9 years ago
    I agree with seaboardrr. I'll just try and explain it in my own words. The whole arrangement with the DS was never completely about money, not for her. She is not a professional escort. She doesn't try to maximize FS-ITC or OTC money. She is very young, and she enjoyed the times with JS69, but eventually she just had to consider what she is doing with her life and where is this going. JS69, I commend you for recognizing that divorce was necessary. But it is better if you can do it clean, meaning divorce when you are not seeing anyone, not engaging in any infidelities. Okay, but things are as they are. Now you need to just be with your feeling and you do need to try and understand the failed marriage. None of us can actually move on until we understand what has happened. And newly divorced men, we do have it written all over us. It is like a smell. SJG [view link]
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    your meds! take your fucking meds san_jose_guy and a shower with soap will help with that smell you carry around. just sayin'
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    SJG, I know why my marriage failed. My wife was a frigid ice queen who gave me less sex than Hillary gives Bill. And I know you feel strongly about it, but I can't imagine why as a newly divorced man I wouldn't be grabbing all of the pussy that I can. I'm free, finally, and I've got a lot of lost time to make up for. And I don't smell.
  • twentyfive
    9 years ago
    just stop reading DJG's posts I didn't put him on ignore but he is a whiny little sumbitch ain't he
  • twentyfive
    9 years ago
    that should have been SJG
  • DoctorPhil
    9 years ago
    san_jose_guy is just bitter because his bought and paid for mail order bride dumped him. how pathetic is that? a fourth world female teenager sold as chattel who would rather starve than to live with the hygienically challenged mistake of nature
  • twentyfive
    9 years ago
    To DoctorPhil Nah he's just a jerk looking for attention ! I personally think his hat is wrapped around his asshole just a little too tight.
  • Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx
    9 years ago
    2015 Thread of the Year thus far.
  • san_jose_guy
    9 years ago
    JS69, Your ex wasn't a problem for you before you married her. You aren't stupid. Somehow something happened. It may not be you or she. It may be just the way marriage works in our society. In any event, you gave your word and tried to make it work. But it didn't and so you had to pull out. It still reflects on your character and your identity. And the recently divorced men who have such unhealed wounds do indeed smell, to women. SJG
  • chessmaster
    8 years ago
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  • vincemichaels
    8 years ago
    Nice comment, there, chessmaster. :)
  • MrDeuce
    8 years ago
    I don't. I miss being in Dearborn and seeing Hotstuff69babi at the Criket :) June, baby!
  • sharkhunter
    8 years ago
    I miss reading about Dougster"s financial threads. I also miss the back and forth banter between Alucard and Dougster. I don't miss much more from Alucard. He could have been Bernie Sannders as far as I know except for the part about having gun rights. He did not believe the people should have a right to defend themselves with a gun.
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