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Do bouncers serve any useful purpose? If not, why do so many PLs grease them?

JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Friday, September 4, 2015 7:12 AM
I learn a lot about the dynamics of the strip club by spending so much time with the DS in her club. Lately I've been fascinated by the fact that a huge segment of PLs think that greasing bouncers is the way to get the best possible VIP experience. Seriously, a good 40-50 percent of the VIPs in her club are set up by bouncers. PL asks bouncer to set him up in a VIP with a high mileage girl or girls. So the bouncer chooses the dancer, and sets both PL and dancer up in a VIP room. Of course the PL tips the bouncer for his "service." Only a complete and total idiot would do it this way. The bouncer doesn't give a shit what kind of VIP dance the guy has. Instead, he brings the PL to one of the girls that he knows will give him a cut of the VIP charge. Where the DS works, it is standard practice that the girl gives the bouncer 25% of the VIP room charge if he brings her to the PL. 25% is a lot of money for a dancer to part with but it's worth it to many girls. A dancer can sometimes be in the VIP almost the whole night if she is on the bouncer's team. "Everybody" wins -- the dancer, the bouncer, and the club all make a bunch of money. The customer is the only looser. So why are PLs so stupid to do it this way? Why not find your own girl, who you want, who meets your standards, and take her back without some guy in a suit to hold your hand.? As best I can determine, most do this for one of four reasons. PLs correctly perceive that the bouncers know who the attractive sluts are among the dancers. But they are wrong in their belief that the bouncer will take them to these sluts just for a $20-40 tip. The bouncer makes most of his money by recommending the girls who give him the biggest cut. That's all he cares about. Some PLs are too timid, shy and nervous to set up a VIP on their own. So they just let the guy in the suit do the "work" for them. Now I try to be sympathetic to newbies, but these guys are totally worthless as men. Even at my earliest newbie state I never came close to needing somebody else to get a girl to do a VIP with me. But some guys do. I think some guys are under the mistaken impression that this (getting a bouncer involved) is the way that VIPs are supposed to be set up. I'm sure some bouncers encourage this inaccurate assumption. Large groups who do a VIP together (yeah, I don't get that either, the last thing I want is some other PLs in the room watching me get my blowjob but this is common at her club) often use a bouncer to get them a group of girls so that each guy has a dancer. If you really want a group VIP experience then I guess I can sort of understand why you might use a bouncer for the sake of efficiency even though if I were leading such a group we would all choose our own dancer. But other than that, do bouncers serve any useful purpose besides taking care of dangerous drunk customers? The only thing I've ever used a bouncer for was to go grab a dancer for me who seemed glued to the locker room. But even that rarely happens, and if it does I choose the girl. Anybody know of any other useful purpose of the bouncer? By the way, we are not doing a group VIP at Penthouse so don't ask.

48 comments

  • twentyfive
    9 years ago
    Only grease them when they start to squeak that way they leave you alone in the lap dance room but don't overlubricate then they expect it from you all of the time
  • sclvr5005
    9 years ago
    Greasing bouncers? I hope your kidding. Who the fuck does that?
  • sclvr5005
    9 years ago
    Lol @25
  • rockstar666
    9 years ago
    I have never tipped a bouncer in my life. In my club mileage is 100% at the discretion of the girl, and nothing you might try and bribe a bouncer with will change that. Although a suppose if you bribed him and got caught breaking a rule, he might give you a warning before just kicking you out and ratting out the dancer to management.
  • chessmaster
    9 years ago
    Never had a bouncer set up a VIP for me. I try to keep the middle men shit to a minimum.
  • metaldude
    9 years ago
    I've been to clubs where the dancers almost never approach a customer unless they are brought over by a bouncer. In these clubs most of the girls do their stage dance and then disappear. it's certainly not my preference but when that's the case its worth a $10-$20 tip to keep a steady flow coming. Otherwise the option is to bail. Beyond that I will tip the guy who shows you to VIP in clubs where it makes a difference in level of privacy. But overall I rarely tip a bouncer.
  • Aaron_hip
    9 years ago
    For typical lap dances, I tip the bouncer beforehand and it helps to ensure I don't get overcharged for the number of dances.
  • crsm27
    9 years ago
    I have tipped a bouncer or waitress when there is a dancer I want to get a dance from but is hard to reach..... ie: she disappears into the dressing room, doesn't approach clients, or keeps getting taken before she reaches me. I tip about $10 or even a $20 depending on where I am at. Then I talk with the girl and see what is up for VIP, dances, etc. I have tipped bouncers on my way into the VIP before as well. To have them kind of leave us "alone". Again it is nothing huge... a $10 or $20 spot. This typically keeps them from interrupting and sometimes gives you an extra few mins of time if you are doing a timed vip session.
  • crazyjoe
    9 years ago
    "Greasing bouncers? I hope your kidding. Who the fuck does that?" Hahahahah... exactly
  • shadowcat
    9 years ago
    The purpose of bouncers is to provide security for the club. Not to find dancers for idiots.
  • crazyjoe
    9 years ago
    The only useful purpose a bouncer serves is they like to take a lot of shit. I stole one bouncers winter coat once and wore it around the club. I wore it while sitting at a stage and the dancers freaked our thinking i was the bouncer acting like a customer. The bouncer got pissed but there was nothing he could do. He squeaked a little so i sprayed him with WD-40 AND HE SHUT UP... The end Part of that story is true. I will let you guess which part.
  • DandyDan
    9 years ago
    The only time I ever tipped a bouncer was the time I lost my old cellphone and he found it. I have no idea what bouncers are for except to break up fights. But if you need a bouncer to set you up with a dancer, you're pathetic.
  • crazyjoe
    9 years ago
    ^^^^agreed,
  • JamesSD
    9 years ago
    If someone pukes, the bouncer is the one who cleans up. There's no real bouncer during day shift here.
  • chandler
    9 years ago
    It depends on the club and what kind of experience you're looking for. At every club I've been to more than a couple times, I've heard about customers who pay the bouncer or the manager to set them up with their kind of stripper. Usually, I hear it from a dancer who thought the customer was a total douche and didn't want anything to do with the bouncer arranging customers for her. Or so she told me. But it definitely happens. And I'm sure that some guys get what they're looking for that way. And that some staff derive a lot of income from it, like a sort of pimp. It's just not how I roll.
  • Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx
    9 years ago
    At one club I gave a bartender a $5 tip before in exchange for some valuable intel among the dancers, but I've never greased or tipped the bouncer.
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    Metaldude, you need to find some better clubs. I can only remember one club in my entire life where dancers only approached with a bouncer escort. I never went back. And I never tipped the bouncer even if I liked the girl. Aaron, same point. Why not find a better club? What total bullshit to have to tip somebody not to be overcharged. Only in a strip club could such a practice even be conceivable. Joe, I'm guessing that spraying a bouncer with WD 40 is the true part of your story. I do admit to having occasionally tipped a waitress to leave us alone during the VIP, and to keep out the shot girls. For some reason I have less problem tipping a waitress than a bouncer. But it's not much, and it's only when the dancer requires it in order to agree to my blow job.
  • metaldude
    9 years ago
    JS I'm not saying it happens a lot, but I travel to different parts of the country and I have run across a few clubs run that way. I'm not saying I like it, I'm saying it's out there and when you are in a place like that you either do it or leave. I would never make a place like that a regular hangout.
  • Papi_Chulo
    9 years ago
    I've never tipped bouncers except for when I was in Detroit. It's sorta of a shakedown to the best of my knowledge – i.e. if you don't show the bouncer “your gratitude” he finds a way to be more inclined to peek in your dance booth a couple of times during your dance – my assumption for tipping bouncers is for them not to mettle in your biz – it's a dirty biz and everyone wants their cut often thru manipulation.
  • GoVikings
    9 years ago
    i've never tipped a bouncer. as far as i know, they're just there to break up fights. i guess i've been lucky because i've read on TUSCL that often times bouncers will peak in on your dances/VIPs. if this has happened to me, then it was very infrequently. i know for sure that 9 times out of 10 i haven't been interrupted during my dances/VIPs. the only time someone peeks in is when they tell us (me and the dancer) that our time is up
  • Aaron_hip
    9 years ago
    Almost every time I go to the club, I get dances from new dancers. As such, it is always possible that any particular dancer will try to overcharge me. So having a good relationship with the bouncers isn't a terrible idea. I only tip $1 or $2 here or there. It is a very small price to pay to avoid big hassle.
  • ATACdawg
    9 years ago
    At one of the clubs that I frequent (1320 in Springfield VA) there are NO bouncers on staff. Nobody monitors the lap dance area, and there are no cameras. There are guys from all races and social classes there all the time. And you know the interesting thing? I have never seen any hint of a problem there, either with dancers overcounting, patrons fighting or anything else. Most times it's just a couple of bartenders, a chef, and a waitress or two.
  • Subraman
    9 years ago
    First of all, I totally agree that tipping a bouncer to bring you a girl to do VIP with is not the way to go. You are exactly right that the bouncer will bring you a girl who he knows will tip him well, and that's his only criteria. I couldn't tell if you were asking about just this specific situation (which we agree, is useless), or if in general we find situations where the bouncer can be useful? If so, emphastic "yes, there are" from me, but not sure that's what we're talking about.
  • rickdugan
    9 years ago
    In some higher mileage club, tipping a manager/bouncer/VIP "host" is a necessary evil or, at the very least, strongly advised. In most of these situations, either they will blatantly solicit the "tip" or the dancer will advise you to take care of it. The alternative usually involves the dude finding a way to interrupt your good time.
  • rickdugan
    9 years ago
    As far as tipping a guy to find a girl, no thanks.
  • motorhead
    9 years ago
    ^^^ Evidently OK to tip ball boys to reduce the pressue though
  • Dougster
    9 years ago
    Gives RickyBoy someone to grease?
  • Lone_Wolf
    9 years ago
    I can't see the point of tipping a bouncer. I probably wouldn't like the honey they brought over. I'm glad they are there though. Some of the clubs I frequent can get pretty rowdy.
  • rockie
    9 years ago
    If your bouncer, or waitress, has an impact on your time allowed/managed in the VIP - you tip to not have your time managed strictly. Tipping will usually get you a more relaxed view on their time management duties! If your bouncer, or any club personnel, have no impact whatsoever on your club visit - there is no compensation required. I've generally received the benefit of being respectful, whether I've greased the palm or not. What I certainly will acknowledge, some bouncers and waitresses have a distorted view of what they add to the strip club experience and I'll will not be brow beaten.
  • Subraman
    9 years ago
    Yeah, that's what I was getting at, rockie. AGain, JS's scenario -- tipping the bouncer to find you a great girl -- is silly. But the bouncer can definitely make your life easier at the club. At my fave club, the bouncer definitely, unquestionably lets me get away with more in the back room, it's as if I'm invisible, then he'll yell at some other guy who just has his hand on his stripper's ass. That's the big benefit, but there's lots of little ones: I haven't paid my club's entrance fee for years; he and I love the same sport so when I'm between dancers or just need a break or just feel like some man-talk, he's always good to argue about sports with; some time back there was a new dancer I wanted to see, whose schedule I could never sync up with, and he texted me when she was in (awesome score). I don't think I've ever tipped that guy. When I come in, we talk. When I'm buying shots for me and my dancer, sometimes I call him over and buy him one. That's it. Just treat him like a person, get privileges in the back room, save many many hundreds in entrance fees, and have someone to talk sports with -- 100% win, and it takes me literally no effort.
  • grinddawg
    9 years ago
    Some guys prefer the bouncer help them out by finding them a girl. They don't want to deal with the hassle of "interviewing" dancers and are just looking for a dance or maybe extras. As long as the customer is happy with the service he is getting, I don't see anything wrong with tipping a bouncer. Some of you guys tip strippers ridiculous amounts of money but then will hate on a door guy trying to make a few extra bones for himself. Bros b4 hoez!
  • Mr_O
    9 years ago
    I have tipped before, but was only on the advice of my favorite of the time. We had long since passed a new customer/provider relationship. On this occasion, she told me that there was a bouncer there that seemed to be a little to interested in the goings on in the back. I didn't know him at all. She said he would look the other way for a tip. He didn't bother us. I watched after our session and he did a lot of checking. I suspect he was a voyeur with a primo job.
  • goldmongerATL
    9 years ago
    At some clubs it is expected to give the guy a small tip to look the other way if extras are involved. I actually was in a club with a new girl who had not yet learned this rule. In mid BJ the bouncer walks in and starts yelling at the girl that he's not stupid and knows what the fuck we are doing back here. To quote him "If you want to come back here and suck a dick that's your business. Hell, take it up the ass for all I care. But if you're going to do that shit back here there better be something in it for me or I will NOT be looking the other way." She gave him a 20 and he said that's more like it. "Pardon the interruption, sir." and he left. As I'm leaving the club later, he asked me if she was any good, LOL!
  • Dougster
    9 years ago
    The reason RickyBoy greases the bouncers is simple: because he is gay.
  • Clackport
    9 years ago
    I never have, and probably never will.
  • grinddawg
    9 years ago
    I remember at one of the Las Vegas clubs, the girl asked me to give the bouncer a gratuity. It is for more privacy I guess. You pay $100 for the VIP for 3 songs then you have to pay $44 drink minimum and a $10 or $20 spot for the bouncer. So after everything you just paid $160 or so for 15 minutes but some of the girls there are very hot.
  • rickthelion
    9 years ago
    Bouncers respect me because I wear a suit.
  • rickthelion
    9 years ago
    And if a bouncer doesn't respect me it's wildebeest time for said bouncer.
  • san_jose_guy
    9 years ago
    Of course there need to be bouncers for security, especially if there is alcohol. But I have always said that you should not grease them, as you are then giving them more power than they should have and you are causing corruption and making it harder on everyone else. Also, FWIW, I have never seen an AMP where they had any need for bouncers.. But that is probably also because AMPs are not hang out places. Strip clubs are hang out places, so you need bouncers. Just don't grease them or you create a problem. When I have greased bounders, it has created problems. SJG [view link]
  • BigPoppa99
    9 years ago
    ;) I always tip the bouncer a few bucks. Every time. He then becomes my ally if I ever need help.
  • JohnSmith69
    9 years ago
    Sorry Poppa but I think random bouncer tips for no present reason are lame. In hundreds of club visits over two decades, I have never once needed a bouncer to be my ally. But maybe I just don't get out enough.
  • shadowcat
    9 years ago
    I did tip one $5 once. I was leaving the club and discovered that I had a flat tire and my cell phone was dead. He called AAA for me and then came inside and got me when they showed up.
  • san_jose_guy
    9 years ago
    If you give them tips so that you won't be bothered in the VIP/ Room or Dance Booth, or so that you might be able to go over some limit lines, then you are encouraging the bouncers to think they have more power than they should have. You are setting up situations would could turn into bouncers trying to squeeze tips, or teaming up with dancers to engage in extortion. We have already heard stories about such things. SJG [view link]
  • chessmaster
    8 years ago
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  • a21985
    8 years ago
    Chessmaster, you can always be counted on to bump relevant topics for the day. I personally grease the VIP bouncer a 5 or 10 more out of habit than anything. It was advice I got early on when I started frequenting extras clubs and I refuse to let it go. If nothing more, it gives me (possibly false) peace of mind that my dancer and I will get ensured privacy and a blind eye to whatever we're doing in there, especially in less private VIP areas. As for tipping the bouncer to find high mileage girls for you, that honestly sounds ridiculous and lazy, but who am I to judge.
  • san_jose_guy
    8 years ago
    Bouncers are necessary for a club to be safe. A girl has to be able to do whatever she wants. She has to be able to be climbing on one guy, and then leave him and go to someone else. If a guy try's to interfere, there has to be security to stop him, or a strip club could never work. But as I have always maintained, if you are greasing bouncers for extra mileage, you are giving them authority they should not have. That is a chicken shit way to run a club on the part of the owner. If you grease bouncers you are encouraging all sorts of future troubles. SJG
  • san_jose_guy
    8 years ago
    In some clubs they have bouncers. But as far as restricting the actions of the girls, the keep that authority with the shift manager, who is the bartender. This way the rules are more likely to be followed and there should not be bouncer greasing. It is bad enough that dancers grease bouncers. When customers do it, it leads to security problems and crossed wires. And then eventually bouncers will be tag teaming with strippers to extort money out of customers. It all stinks. But the problem starts with the owner. SJG
  • s88
    8 years ago
    The one and only time a bouncer asked to be greased for VIP room at my regular SC, I asked him what did he do earn it? he stared at me with pleading eyes, I told him, I only tip strippers, he turned around and left. He disappeared after a month. Good riddance.
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