Do bouncers serve any useful purpose? If not, why do so many PLs grease them?
JohnSmith69
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Only a complete and total idiot would do it this way. The bouncer doesn't give a shit what kind of VIP dance the guy has. Instead, he brings the PL to one of the girls that he knows will give him a cut of the VIP charge. Where the DS works, it is standard practice that the girl gives the bouncer 25% of the VIP room charge if he brings her to the PL. 25% is a lot of money for a dancer to part with but it's worth it to many girls. A dancer can sometimes be in the VIP almost the whole night if she is on the bouncer's team. "Everybody" wins -- the dancer, the bouncer, and the club all make a bunch of money. The customer is the only looser.
So why are PLs so stupid to do it this way? Why not find your own girl, who you want, who meets your standards, and take her back without some guy in a suit to hold your hand.? As best I can determine, most do this for one of four reasons.
PLs correctly perceive that the bouncers know who the attractive sluts are among the dancers. But they are wrong in their belief that the bouncer will take them to these sluts just for a $20-40 tip. The bouncer makes most of his money by recommending the girls who give him the biggest cut. That's all he cares about.
Some PLs are too timid, shy and nervous to set up a VIP on their own. So they just let the guy in the suit do the "work" for them. Now I try to be sympathetic to newbies, but these guys are totally worthless as men. Even at my earliest newbie state I never came close to needing somebody else to get a girl to do a VIP with me. But some guys do.
I think some guys are under the mistaken impression that this (getting a bouncer involved) is the way that VIPs are supposed to be set up. I'm sure some bouncers encourage this inaccurate assumption.
Large groups who do a VIP together (yeah, I don't get that either, the last thing I want is some other PLs in the room watching me get my blowjob but this is common at her club) often use a bouncer to get them a group of girls so that each guy has a dancer.
If you really want a group VIP experience then I guess I can sort of understand why you might use a bouncer for the sake of efficiency even though if I were leading such a group we would all choose our own dancer. But other than that, do bouncers serve any useful purpose besides taking care of dangerous drunk customers? The only thing I've ever used a bouncer for was to go grab a dancer for me who seemed glued to the locker room. But even that rarely happens, and if it does I choose the girl.
Anybody know of any other useful purpose of the bouncer?
By the way, we are not doing a group VIP at Penthouse so don't ask.
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Then I talk with the girl and see what is up for VIP, dances, etc.
I have tipped bouncers on my way into the VIP before as well. To have them kind of leave us "alone". Again it is nothing huge... a $10 or $20 spot. This typically keeps them from interrupting and sometimes gives you an extra few mins of time if you are doing a timed vip session.
Hahahahah... exactly
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Part of that story is true. I will let you guess which part.
I have no idea what bouncers are for except to break up fights. But if you need a bouncer to set you up with a dancer, you're pathetic.
There's no real bouncer during day shift here.
Usually, I hear it from a dancer who thought the customer was a total douche and didn't want anything to do with the bouncer arranging customers for her. Or so she told me. But it definitely happens. And I'm sure that some guys get what they're looking for that way. And that some staff derive a lot of income from it, like a sort of pimp. It's just not how I roll.
Aaron, same point. Why not find a better club? What total bullshit to have to tip somebody not to be overcharged. Only in a strip club could such a practice even be conceivable.
Joe, I'm guessing that spraying a bouncer with WD 40 is the true part of your story.
I do admit to having occasionally tipped a waitress to leave us alone during the VIP, and to keep out the shot girls. For some reason I have less problem tipping a waitress than a bouncer. But it's not much, and it's only when the dancer requires it in order to agree to my blow job.
It's sorta of a shakedown to the best of my knowledge – i.e. if you don't show the bouncer “your gratitude” he finds a way to be more inclined to peek in your dance booth a couple of times during your dance – my assumption for tipping bouncers is for them not to mettle in your biz – it's a dirty biz and everyone wants their cut often thru manipulation.
i guess i've been lucky because i've read on TUSCL that often times bouncers will peak in on your dances/VIPs. if this has happened to me, then it was very infrequently.
i know for sure that 9 times out of 10 i haven't been interrupted during my dances/VIPs. the only time someone peeks in is when they tell us (me and the dancer) that our time is up
Evidently OK to tip ball boys to reduce the pressue though
I don't think I've ever tipped that guy. When I come in, we talk. When I'm buying shots for me and my dancer, sometimes I call him over and buy him one. That's it. Just treat him like a person, get privileges in the back room, save many many hundreds in entrance fees, and have someone to talk sports with -- 100% win, and it takes me literally no effort.
I actually was in a club with a new girl who had not yet learned this rule. In mid BJ the bouncer walks in and starts yelling at the girl that he's not stupid and knows what the fuck we are doing back here. To quote him "If you want to come back here and suck a dick that's your business. Hell, take it up the ass for all I care. But if you're going to do that shit back here there better be something in it for me or I will NOT be looking the other way." She gave him a 20 and he said that's more like it. "Pardon the interruption, sir." and he left.
As I'm leaving the club later, he asked me if she was any good, LOL!
But I have always said that you should not grease them, as you are then giving them more power than they should have and you are causing corruption and making it harder on everyone else.
Also, FWIW, I have never seen an AMP where they had any need for bouncers.. But that is probably also because AMPs are not hang out places.
Strip clubs are hang out places, so you need bouncers. Just don't grease them or you create a problem.
When I have greased bounders, it has created problems.
SJG
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You are setting up situations would could turn into bouncers trying to squeeze tips, or teaming up with dancers to engage in extortion. We have already heard stories about such things.
SJG
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I personally grease the VIP bouncer a 5 or 10 more out of habit than anything. It was advice I got early on when I started frequenting extras clubs and I refuse to let it go. If nothing more, it gives me (possibly false) peace of mind that my dancer and I will get ensured privacy and a blind eye to whatever we're doing in there, especially in less private VIP areas. As for tipping the bouncer to find high mileage girls for you, that honestly sounds ridiculous and lazy, but who am I to judge.
But as I have always maintained, if you are greasing bouncers for extra mileage, you are giving them authority they should not have. That is a chicken shit way to run a club on the part of the owner. If you grease bouncers you are encouraging all sorts of future troubles.
SJG
It is bad enough that dancers grease bouncers. When customers do it, it leads to security problems and crossed wires. And then eventually bouncers will be tag teaming with strippers to extort money out of customers.
It all stinks. But the problem starts with the owner.
SJG