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11 years ago
The crazy final posts by Juicebox69 that got him banned. Wish that hadn't happened. Juice is a brilliant and funny dude. Glad he's still with us under aliases.
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11 years ago
There are a couple clubs I treat as a playground and always spend time with multiple dancers. When I visit my ATF or two CFs, all at different clubs, I VIP with them and spend a good amount of time just hanging out.
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11 years ago
Dark flaps against caramel skin.
Visited a nude club this weekend. Fell in love with a 5'7" perfect 10, sporting firm natural 36Ds. Sat in front of me and spread her chocolate V-flaps against her light caramel skin. She asked, "Wanna go to a private room?" After all my training here, alarms bells went off in the big head. Unfortunately the smaller one had taken over. This goddess turned out to be a total ROB. Nothing but up selling. But, the memory of her stage tease is still a thrill.
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11 years ago
Sorry to hear about your experience. Interesting that you report this. Noticing more dancers being hesitant about FIV. Also running into (or from) more cases of "dead trout pussy".
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11 years ago
I think I know what you are looking for. Try these:
1. Galleghers 2000 in Long Island City NY - topless; full bar; decent mileage, particularly before 7pm. Great in early afternoon.
2. Lace in Wayne. NJ - bikini; full bar; one-way LDs; YMMV with VIP. Opens at 7pm, but doesn't get going until around 9pm.
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11 years ago
I agree with jackslash and SlickSpic, 25-35 works best for me. Have never gotten any enjoyment from a dance with a stripper under 20. All were poor conversationalists and did not know how to please a man.
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11 years ago
Very cool post! Have done the Amsterdam RLD. Gotta try Antwerp!
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11 years ago
Yeah, it's balancing act, as you ideally want to maintain good relations with most dancers. But, bottom line is it's your money, and you should always be in control of how you spend your money. May want to identify the few dancers who take the liberty of inviting their friends over, and tell them directly you don't like that.
I experience something similar with my ATF at one of the upscale NYC clubs. She likes to invite one or two of her close friends to join us in the VIP section of the main floor. I'm sure my ATF gets lots of kudos from them for sharing the wealth. Recently, when my ATF had to go onstage, another dancer came by. Tried to shoo her away, but she said she wasn't leaving. When my ATF returned, you could feel the tension in the air. After about five minutes my ATF and I got up and went to the stage to rain a few bucks on one of her friends. When we returned to the VIP section, the interloper was gone.
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11 years ago
tenisbum1776, nice post. Agree with others that it would be a great article.
Started clubbing seriously around the same time you did last year. Have had just three OTCs with two dancers. Cost was meals and gifts. More outings with other dancers could have been arranged. Plenty of opportunities to just bust a nut. OTC isn't as difficult as some make it seem. I like taking the route of building a bit of a friendship with dancers who are truly beautiful inside and outside. More aligned with the GFE I enjoy.
I generally agree with your follow-up point #14. But, the reality is that many of us hobbyists are flawed as well due to stuff in our past. Many of us think we're better that most strippers, looking down on them the way society views sex workers of any type. Reality is that many sex workers are great providers for their families, and are intelligently pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. No different than lots of lower tier socio-economic level workers. My ATF told me once, "You try hard to be perfect. I'm not trying to be perfect! I'm enjoying life." After a year of clubbing, I'm less judgmental of strippers.
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11 years ago
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Fak15141No I wouldn't like a dance how about 3
BTW, very cool question Fak15141.
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11 years ago
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Fak15141No I wouldn't like a dance how about 3
Go for it!
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11 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
P_C, I'm a sucker for sheer beauty, some touching just about anywhere, coupled with a warm smile and interesting conversation. Dancers who quickly demonstate potential for a great GFE will get me to YES in a hurry.
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11 years ago
I've found giving newbie dancers advice to be an exercise in futility. The core problem is that most of them aren't really interested in providing excellent customer service. They are interested in doing whatever they want to do. They are self-absorbed. The best education for dancers with great potential is watching customer-focused dancers make lots of cash.
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11 years ago
Yeah Dougster, my favorite is Kareem Abdul Jabaar, the NBA's all-time leading scorer. Loved his fight scene with Bruce Lee in the 1978 film "Game of Death". It's still a classic.
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11 years ago
Lack of innovation is another possible explanation for the slowdown. Any retail or entertainment venue must change things to keep customers interested. I'm seeing many club owners fail to understand this concept. The same old same old gets boring after a while.
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11 years ago
Great story!
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11 years ago
I club solo, with rare exceptions.
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11 years ago
I like Cleveland as well! Had a great GFE at Christy's on the second floor with a tall cute brunette. IME, it's not true high mileage is unavailable during $20 open area laps. Just have to find the right lady. Earlier during the same visit, I went to VIP with someone who didn't deliver nearly as much intimacy. As we say, YMMV!
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11 years ago
Funny how challenging it can be to mask male wiring when pretending to be female.
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11 years ago
I'm a big horny man. HungryGiraffe just popped in my head when registering for this site.
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11 years ago
Very interesting, thought-provoking post. Very nice Lone_Wolf.
Funny how society generally equates beauty with success, and associates stripping, particularly in a dive SC, with failure. Obviously, neither one of these broad-brush stereotypes is always true.
I like what stenton1 said, particularly, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and more importantly, it's also fleeting."
We live in a competitive world. It's about survival of the fittest. Beauty is part of being perceived as fit. I'm fascinated how average looking women (and men) can make themselves "beautiful" through a wide range of physical treatments. Ever see some of the pics of entertainment stars without makeup? If a person combines a few outer enhancements, if necessary, with intellect and positive character attributes, she or he has a leg up in society.
Lots of evidence out there that stripping, even in a dive SC, doesn't automatically equate to failure. I've met plenty of "successful" sex workers playing in the dancer/stripper segment of the industry. Many of them not only make a great living, but enable success for their children and extended families. That very attractive dancer working in a dive club, just might be having fun intelligently working a career option that is a terrific fit for her and those she loves.
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11 years ago
Glad u r back Juice! Missed the entertainment and creativity.
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11 years ago
My list of NJ favorites:
1. Club Champagne - relatively private $30 laps, YMMV widely. Not your typical bikini club. Upscale facility.
2. Playhouse Lounge - topless, $30 laps in private room, high mileage
3. Go Go Rama - nude on stage, great $20 laps
4. Erotic Cafe - nude $30 laps with full contact
5. The Harem - nude on stage, nude $180/20 min VIP, pretty dancers
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11 years ago
Ran into a young Asian dancer during a visit to VIP Club of New York, an upscale club in lower Manhattan. Had a good time in VIP.
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12 years ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
Neck strain can cause a headache as well.