Comments by dtek (page 11)

mikeya02 said, "Alcohol is legal, can't be drunk on the job, Same goes with pot." But it's not the same with pot. First of all, even if pot is now legal at the state level in some states, it's still illegal everywhere in the US at the federal level. Beyond that, according to this article: http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/09/news/economy/fired-for-smoking-weed/, only Arizona and Delaware have laws on the books protecting workers from being fired for failing a drug test. Everything I've read suggests that, in general, employers can still fire you for smoking pot even if it's legal (at the state level) and even though you're not high at work.

Your wife could also ask questions (for the both of you) over at stripperweb. I'm guessing the gals over there would be more likely to respond to a potential (or former?) stripper than they would to to her husband. There's at least one gal on TUSCL who has posted recently and who, based on her descriptions of the Portland strip club scene and her clubs in particular, seems legitimate. She's also said she's open to PM. You can find her by clicking on Articles and scrolling down till you find an article titled "Kind Things for Strippers this Holiday Season."

It's not (just) a stripper thing. Young women everywhere these days call their tits "boobies." There's a breast cancer awareness campaign going on called "Save the Boobies."

I've heard from a number of girls that they don't approach the 20-something guys due to a perception that those guys have no money to spend or won't spend money on dances. That said, why did you walk back to your seat without asking the dancer you were interested in to drop by when she finished her set? I realize that a five dollar stage tip should have clued her in, but she might not have noticed your tip wasn't a one. While it's true that there are lots of lazy strippers out there, it's also possible that you're giving off a "don't bother approaching" vibe. If you really want to know, you're probably going to have to ask one or more of the girls at that club (and then filter heavily through your bullshit detector).

To hold my pants up? or Because suspenders are even worse?

Several of the Portland clubs ran bikini car washes this summer. One manager told me he wanted to have one but couldn't get the girls to go for it.

sharkhunter: "It's probably just a matter of time before The King, Obama that is, signs another executive order declaring elections null and void and disbands congress and makes it official." You sound like the blue staters who, back before the last election, were convinced that Bush would cancel the election if he thought the GOP wouldn't win: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/31/2874.

I've yet to meet anyone in a strip club who cares about the ring. But even if they did, taking it off would do nothing to conceal the pasty white strip of untanned skin that's under the ring.

If the rumor gets around, you'll have to get a dance from every girl at the club and prove it wrong one stripper at a time. ;-)

@lopaw: Got it in one. Actually, the ones who laugh usually ask if my name is Art. ;-)

I've gotten laughs when I tell 'em I'm an architect.

I have two requirements: 1) An ability to convincingly pretend that you find me attractive and want to spend time with me. Place strong emphasis on the word "convincingly." Lots of girls pretend, most are transparently insincere. 2) Good looks. By that I mean you're young, fit, have a pretty face and present yourself in a sexy manner (consistent with requirement #1). Pole tricks can be impressive, but won't earn more than a buck or two at the rail. Floor work, booty shaking, leg shaking, and heel clacking are uninteresting at best and often completely unsexy.

@mjx01: Yeah, I understand the relative risks of various sex acts. I don't think it's the oral lips Rick & shadowcat are talking about though. And, as Doug points out, there are other more common STDs out there.

For you guys who'll let her rub her lips along the shaft but insist on a condom for penetration, what's your thinking? Do you think her secretions at the lips have a different viral load than the secretions inside the vagina? Or is it OK as long as you only get one side of your dick wet?

@ranukam I wasn't talking about extras either. I've been amazed at the number of dancers in this town who will initiate kissing and/or two way full contact for nothing more than the cost of a lap dance, sans tip.

@steve229: LOL @mmdv26: Yeah, they also tell me I'm "the perfect size"

Well ranukam, I'm in Portland too but I'm about three decades older than you. Like you, I hear that I'm good looking both from strippers and from women in the "real world." Like you, dancers tell me that I make them horny. They also tell me that they prefer men my age to men your age. I know that this is code for "guys in their 50's have more money to spend." I don't think it's possible to say "in general" whether guys your age get better mileage for the cost of a dance than guys my age. It varies too much from girl to girl. In Portland it also varies greatly from club to club. There are clubs here where the girls will give me little more than the time of day. There are also clubs where the mileage I get meets or exceeds anything you're getting. I suspect there are three factors in play that determine the amount of mileage available to a customer in this market: 1) The club. Every club here seems to have its own culture. Some clubs appear (to me) to be hipster hang-outs where little mileage is sought or available to anyone (except maybe lopaw ;-). At other clubs many of the girls are up for pretty much anything with the right customer. The rest of the girls at these clubs are pretty liberal with what they'll allow. Most clubs are somewhere in the middle. 2) The girl. Every girl has her own limits regardless of the club she works at. A liberal girl at one of the stricter clubs will offer a bit more mileage than the rest of her colleagues. A less liberal girl may be up for much less mileage than the rest of the dancers at a higher mileage club. 3) The guy. Like you, I've observed what other customers are getting during a lap dance. Like you, I appear to be getting more. I think this has less to do with age than it has to do with how the customer behaves. You say you're nice to the dancers. I suspect that's the biggest key, at least here, to getting more mileage at the clubs where higher mileage is available.

Yeah, there's a reason most clubs are lit so darkly. An awful lot of the girls with great bodies would be two baggers in the light of day. The emotional trauma from being arrested probably didn't do much for their looks either.

@steve229 The mugshots and an interview with one of the club managers are here: http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/268970/8/Tampa-strip-club-manager-reacts-to-dancers-arrests-after-Tampa-police-crackdown-before-RNC I like how the arrest of 16 somehow turned into "nearly 20" in the news. Fun fact: The oldest stripper arrested that night is 61 years old!

>Who else has had accidents in the strip club? I once had the backside of a stripper's head strike the underside of my jaw causing me to bite my tongue. Does that count?

It's $20 a song at most clubs in Portland, but a few have raised it to $40 per song. I've also had dancers offer 2 for $30 when the club is really slow. Rumor has it that one of the clubs that pioneered the $40 dance has since reduced the price.

As I was walking out of a club one night a girl was walking into the club parking lot. She told me her car had broken down and asked for a ride to a gas station down the street. I agreed. On the way to the gas station she told me she was a dancer at another club further down the road, and added that she did "private parties" too.

There's a local high roller who frequently visits the same club I hang out at. One of the dancers there claims he'll offer up to several thousand for OTC if he wants a particular girl enough. She also tells me that the typical offer from most guys is $100 for OTC.

There are a couple of clubs in Portland that offers specials via text message. Give them your your phone number and receive occasional messages with drink specials or free entry.