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12 years ago
“Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?" Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "
Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"
Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!" Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the priceâ€
Seems relevant here.
I guess every girl does have a price, even shitty low mileage bitchy strippers like this one. Lol sorry if that's harsh, but it's annoying when dances come here to vent.
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12 years ago
Actually, the women who visit clubs around these parts actually tend to get really good mileage from lap dances. I don't think women want the mileage to be any less .
Now, I am not sure what their opinion of extras would be, but as long as that's occurring more in VIP/private areas, I doubt it matters.
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12 years ago
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=641
should help you out a lot here
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12 years ago
"A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease."
http://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/
So for men, it's a 4 out of 10,000 (or 1 out of 2500, whatever you want to call it) chance to get HIV when having sex with a female who is infected. Add in a condom, and your chances are looking pretty good to stay clean.
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12 years ago
There has never been a documented case of HIV being transmitted through oral sex to the receiver of oral sex.
As far as vaginal sex goes, even without a condom, it is actually not very likely to get HIV as a male partner, even if the female partner is infected. With a condom, the chances go down even more. Most of the time when we hear about HIV being transmitted through sex, it is through anal sex. Not say that is always the case, just a general trend.
At the end of the day, if you wrap up for vaginal sex but go for BBBJs you're still pretty safe IMO.
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12 years ago
Personally, no, I haven't gotten anything from BBBJs. I used to worry about this sort of thing and would prefer CBJs, but since BBBJs honestly feel so much better I eventually just said fuck it.
At the end of the day, I could care less about HSV-1 as it's really nothing more than a skin condition. It's the type of thing that if you're mongering is more of a 'when' than an 'if.' You have to accept it in a way.
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12 years ago
Helps when you have their number and their name added as a contact. ;)
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12 years ago
are you posting this because a girl actually said this to you?
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12 years ago
Yeah, actually the best way if you REALLY want to know is have a friend go in (without you accompanying them) and get a dance from this specific dancer. See what kind of mileage they can pull off. That still isn't a true test, because maybe she gives good mileage only to her 'regulars' and I am sure you are not her only regular.
Anyway, at the end of the day, why does this really matter unless you're just looking for an ego boost. A strip club is a dangerous place to go for an ego boost, as it's only likely to be shot down as soon as reality sets in. Just enjoy what you're getting and don't try to kid yourself that it's necessarily anything special. Sure, it might be more than the average guy gets, but you should never assume you are the only guy who is getting this mileage from her.
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12 years ago
Estafador, NYC clubs have some of the best looking chicks i've seen in strip clubs. We may have different taste, but there are some beautiful girls working in the higher-end Manhattan clubs for sure.
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12 years ago
Usually a go for me. Unless they're so drunk out of their minds that they're passing out or worse vomiting, but I've never had that situation. In all situations it has worked out to way better mileage for me, and lots of DFK which I like.
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12 years ago
Hah, nice play. Yeah, fuck the ROBs. One girl at a club I frequent was notorious for overcounting songs. First time I got dances from her we had perhaps 4 songs, and she stopped me saying we'd done 7 so far, which was absolute bullshit. I argued with her, and she compromised at 5 songs, so I gave her the $100 ($20/song), no tip and just bounced. I'm not the type to complain to management, but I'm sure others did, as although this girl is pretty good looking she'd frequently be walking around the club with no customers. The dancers in this club make their money from regulars, and her type of attitude absolutely doesn't create many regulars. So either management eventually found out about her horrible tactics, or the strip club 'system' naturally forced her to leave, as she could no longer make tip out.
So, that's one thing I do like with the way strip clubs are setup these days. Even if you aren't the one to take action about it, eventually ROBs are going to get screwed.
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12 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Might be a good idea to call your ISP about it.
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12 years ago
rickdugan has it right. When I started out clubbing, it was much harder to have that kind of discipline, and I can completely relate to how once you know a girl, it's hard to say no to her for dances/VIP as it almost appears. But you have to man up and do it.
The best position to be in is when a girl knows you have money, but also realizes that she has to render legitimate services in order to get it from you. So you don't have the entirely hide the fact that you have funds available, but you do have to make it clear that you won't part with it too easily.
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12 years ago
Since this is COI where the mileage is meant to be quite good, it sounds like you are not getting what you should for your investment. Drop this dancer before you get any more infatuated with her than you already are. Seek another dancer who gives more bang for the buck.
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12 years ago
Most of the high-end clubs here in NYC preauthorize your card for a decent amount, e.g. $200 to make sure funds are available. When you exceed that, they may even preauth another $200 to be sure. I can't believe this club didn't do something like that here.
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12 years ago
At the end of the day, do not use escorts are a substitute for having real relationships with women. Use escorts because you have a strong desire to have sex with a hot woman. Don't ever fall into the fantasy that you are in some sort of relationship with the escort outside of monetary. The good ones try to make you feel that way, at least for the hour or so you're with them, and these words are probably obvious to most people here but many people fall into the trap anyways.
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12 years ago
Well, one thing for sure is, I've NEVER seen an Indian girl in a strip club either. There's probably an even stronger cultural influence to "not" be a stripper there. I'm sure that is part of the reason that you don't see too many Asians in general. Although, it is rather interesting that so many massage parlors are Asian (hence the term AMPs), where they're basically giving handjobs as part of standard service, which arguably might be more intense than some clubs' lap dances (in some ways).
You do have to take into account that there's simply less Asian girls than white girls in the US, just pure statistics wise. And there's going to be higher Asian populations in more metro areas, like NYC, LA, etc. But you're not going to see too many in the middle of the country in less populated cities.
Sounds like you should really visit Thailand though, if you haven't already.
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12 years ago
Corvus, very interesting. Usually it is the dancer who gets in trouble for "letting" the customer do things like that as well, so that's odd.
I also agree with shadowcat. I could ask management, and they might give a legit answer, but if the reason is to prevent extras, I doubt they'll admit that. They'll probably say something generic like "security reasons"
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12 years ago
Was she giving you extras in the private room?
The money that you gave her earlier, on stage, etc. doesn't really count toward the ending tip IMO.
If you were getting extras, or just in general good service, I'd probably have forked over $20+ instead of $10. She shouldn't be "mad" though, unless she negotiated the cost of extras with you beforehand which obviously doesn't sound like it happened.
Dancers usually don't have the foresight of long-term business, unfortunately. Most of them just think about short-term money, so she probably didn't even consider that you might do another room. Don't expect dancers to be expert business woman, sure some of them are really good at this, but this one clearly not.
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12 years ago
I've only been to one club so far where there was a shot girl, and I found her to be extremely annoying. Clubs should just forget about this whole idea altogether IMO.
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12 years ago
I'm not picky on whether they actually dance properly to the beat of the song or whatever, but I like to see a little effort and at least some impression that the dancer has a good attitude on stage. If the dancer makes it obvious that she'd rather not be there and dances haphazardly, she isn't getting a tip (or at least not more than $1). The dancers that look like they have a nice vibe/attitude will see greater tips from me, of course also taking into consideration their overall looks.
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12 years ago
You can probably put together some elaborate scheme of a cell phone inside a teddy bear, or something ridiculous like that. Will probably be able to record only for several hours (at best), even with an extended battery. You could technically stream the video over a cellular connection. But again, this seems like a huge time/money investment to spy on a strip club.
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12 years ago
mmdv26 has it right. Zillow is generally a pretty good indicator, as it'll project the market value of a home based on the selling price of similar homes in the surrounding area. It's not perfect, but it's one of the closer estimates you can get for free.