discussion comment
2 months ago
dc++
How would you handle this VIP (bait and switch) situation
First and foremost, do us all a favor and quit with the $, $$$$$ shit please. In what world is $$$$$ easier to type or read than 500? God help us in trying to understand what $$.5 and similar shit means. As far as handling situation #2 goes, I'd have cut bait the second she came out with the outrageous first number. The percentage of times it goes well after that is so low it's not even worth wasting the time to negotiate. I'd simply have said: no thank you, it was a pleasure meeting you, have a good night. If she came back and cut her number in half, I'd have still passed. That's not to say a girl can't have higher than average prices and be worth it, but if it's really that far out of wack it's a strong indicator of problems to come. If you miss that exit, the warning signs Rick mentioned are you're next best places to take the off ramp. I'm happy to throw away $50-100 to the club on the room fee rather than give a dancer with scammy practices $300-500 in hopes I'll get what I want. I've also found that quite often if I exit the room within 3-5 minutes of entry and politely explain to the person who I paid for the room that the dancer and I had a disagreement on price, they'll let me come back with someone else without paying the fee again. This is especially true if I tipped them at the start or they've seen me before, and I tip them again upon re-entry if they agree. No one will say it better than Kenny Rogers. Know when to fold em.
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2 months ago
schwanay
Texas
Create Follies?
If memory serves, Follies shut down after a protracted licensing dispute. I'm not sure about where you live, but here adult entertainment and liquor licenses don't grow on trees. Even the process to move the associated physical address of the business for an existing, valid license is expensive and time consuming. It's absurd to think a couple guys could toss their money in a pot and open up shop. I mean, it ain't fucking rocket science but the amount of money you'd have to put up is going to be large enough where you're not going to want to be in business with a handful of random perverts from the internet. Not even to consider liability concerns as the associated legal costs to make them manageable. Perhaps a well funded investment group could realize the profitability and recreate a similar business nearby, but I doubt it would be the best option for their money.
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2 months ago
Muddy
USA
Your sitting at the bar, no seats left, girl approaches you to chat
Not if I'm rejecting her. If I want her to hang out a bit, I offer them the seat but it's rare they accept. They'll usually cozy up at the bar, sometimes we'll move elsewhere. A better question, in my opinion, is if you're sitting next to a guy who had a stripper approach, do you move to make room for her to sit with him. That one I'll usually do, especially if that guy was there first and I took the spare seat.
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2 months ago
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
How many different women can you do in 1 year?
Not 600. If I did, I certainly wouldn't make 2-3 million or whatever she said she was gonna make. She's cute tho, I'd fuck her. Maybe not if I knew I was #7 that day, but generally speaking she's plenty hot. I was expecting her to be ugly for some reason.
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2 months ago
tjack128
South Florida - Clubs That Have Brazilians
I don't really care too much about nationality, so I may not really notice all the time. But I don't consistently see any Brazilians at any particular clubs. There was one girl who worked at Gold Club and Booby Trap in Pompano for a while, who had the classic Brazilian look, but I haven't seen her recently. There isn't a club I'd suggest going to on the basis of their Brazilian talent, but they aren't so rare you can't just stumble into them at many of the popular clubs. I'm sure if you hit Tootsies on a busy night, they'll be a few, but IMO it's not worth the hassle to go there just for that chance. There is also very much a tendency to lie like gammanu says. There's a Colombian girl at Cheetah Pompano who is pretty popular, she doesn't look or sound so different than the Cuban girls that she stands out. And she doesn't make a big deal of her heritage, but if you talk to her for any period of time you'll figure it out. A number of Cuban girls have noticed her popularity, and will claim to be Colombian if they think they can capitalize on her popularity.
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2 months ago
Manuellabore
There are Four Categories of Dancers
Chalk me up for it depends too. For basically the same reason as CMI. Also, I pretty much always hit the restroom after doing a room. I might swing by the bar to drop off my drink and re-establish my seat, but after a trip to a room I need to at the very least wash my hands. And I tend to prefer girls who aren't germaphobes but are compelled to wash up frequently. That usually puts me in #2. If it matters, the definition of a drink can vary considerably from literally having a single drink to not leaving my side till I leave the club. But, like CMI said, sometimes I really have no interest in talking to her but she's still hot enough for me to want to fuck. In those cases, I prefer a perfunctory hug & kiss, followed by going our separate ways.
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2 months ago
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
Call or text?
I get annoyed when anyone fucking calls me without texting first, except maybe my mother. It's certainly rare that strippers call, although a few of the Cuban girls do have a habit of using the even more annoying video call on Whatsapp when you get a little close with them. When they say I'll call you, I always just assume they mean text or whatsapp message for the Cuban girls. While it's not really a problem, I just prefer to text anything that doesn't need an immediate response. For example, if one of us is driving around looking for the others house is a time to call instead of text. But checking in to see if I might stop by the club later is 100% a text inquiry.
review comment
2 months ago
tjack128
Some of the Rumors Were True
The whole handshake thing is kinda stupid, and in my pretty extensive experience in south Florida clubs is not nearly as common as you might think by reading the reviews. It happens, but it's certainly not the norm. I wouldn't take offense.
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2 months ago
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
Dancer finger nails.
It's very minimally important, the odds of me looking at a hot dancer and then seeing she has bad nails and changing my mind about her are almost zero. And the odds of nice nails generating interest in otherwise unremarkable girl are also zero. But, I do make some snap judgements about girls personalities based on them. I rarely like the personality of the girls with long ass nails, or ones with trinkets or other bric-a-brac on them. Those girls are often bratty and entitled and are overly concerned about appearances. I prefer the personalities of girls with more normal looking sizes with normal paint jobs. They tend to have a more common sense oriented outlook. I wouldn't call them deal breakers on their own, but combined with other stuff they might. Long nails with lots of shit, giant eyelash extensions, ridiculous extensions/wig, and an overly complicated outfit, could certainly combine to make me pass on an otherwise hot dancer if there was a decent alternative without those things.
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2 months ago
Owlyoung_ggofv
Southern Libertine
Strip Clubs requiring minimum $100 for single dollars
It doesn't seem that unreasonable to me to have a $100 minimum. If I was a regular and tipped the bartender or waitress decently, I'd expect her to break the rule and give me $10 or $20 in singles if I asked nicely and I'd expect her to expect that I tip her 2-3 bucks for it; similar to what I'd tip her for bringing me a drink. But, I can see how it's much easier for the club to have singles in $100 wraps and just sell them that way. It's error prone and time consuming for a bartender to count out more than 10-15 bills on a regular basis, or to have both 50 & 100 wraps.
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2 months ago
ilbbaicnl
Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
POTC
Walking in and heading straight for the bathroom does seem to be common for my OTC friends, especially repeats who are comfortable enough to make themselves at home. What exactly they do in there, I never paid much attention. I guess I used to kinda think of it like Charlie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kU3c1WeHZI&t=67s Most of the time, there is a shower before and often after sex though. And I've always got baby wipes in there alongside the TP, cause no one likes a shitty asshole. topton's comment reminds me of one time I was at Porthole Pub and a dancer left a skid mark on my shirt. I didn't do well with that, the shirt was tossed in the trash can outside the club, and I drove home shirtless and headed for the shower.
discussion comment
2 months ago
FoCoChronic
If she calls me a good boy, I’ll pay her bills
Trying to make OTC happen, what do y’all think?
It's hard to say. She might be stringing you along with the express intent of keeping you coming back ITC. That's probably the most likely explanation. If you haven't talked about payment on our little sushi date, that could also very well be the explanation. Or, scheduling may be an actual problem. If she's got a SO, it might be tough to find a time. It might need to be spontaneous or planned well in advance depending on ya'lls combined situations. My question is, does it matter if she's stringing you along? Are you having fun ITC and getting what you feel is good value? Or are you spending your time/money with the express intent of laying the groundwork for an OTC relationship and if that doesn't happen you'll have failed? A lot of guys here tend to get all worked up about a stripper lying to them. I honestly couldn't care less. If I'm getting what I want, I'm more than willing to let them "hustle" me for months. A lot of guys here also advocate for being explicit about what you want in terms of sex. I'm not a fan of that approach either. I'd say if you're having fun ITC, why not keep doing it? You can keep nudging towards OTC if that's something you'd also like to try. But if it's not your end goal, who cares if she's lying about it. However, if it is your goal, then I'd agree that it's best to quit beating around the bush and set it up. I wouldn't go so far as to say you want a blow job, or to go down on her, or fuck her. But I'd make it clear that you want to do more than just have a meal. Mention going back to a hotel or your place or whatever. Again, this advice is based on being a bit flexible in your wants. If you'll feel cheated if you don't get a BBBJ, don't take my approach. But if you're a little flexible, I find I get much better, more natural service, at a better price, buy not getting down to the nitty gritty. You can bring up money, I recommend making an offer that you feel is fair, but you can ask her how much too. Others will disagree, but I find the figure tends to be close to what I'd spend on the room + the tip for ITC. My schedule is somewhat flexible, so I tend to work with them on that part. Ask her if there are days/times that are good for her or offer a few that works for you. Like, "are you usually available on Tuesday afternoons" or something. I like to shoot for day's she'd normally be working at the club, but that tend to be slowest. That way, if I'm offering more than she typically makes in a day, it's easy math to swap out a day at the club for a day with me. I don't wanna waste my Friday night with a stripper, and she probably doesn't either.
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2 months ago
StripClubXpert
Are you confident enough in the election results to bet on it?
I too am a degenerate gambler. I do not require high confidence in something to place a modest wager on it. But, I do have to find it somewhat interesting. That's where the election results loose me. When I bet on the Dolphins, I enjoy watching the came. If I were to bet on the election, I would not enjoy watching the results come in. So, no, not betting on elections. If I could sit outside the voting places and point at individuals as they came out, and bet on who they'd say they voted for, I'd do that all day. As long as there was drinks and snacks too.
review comment
2 months ago
bigslick99998
Room fees are too steep
It's possible the prices are higher than I remember, but I think its more likely either she was padding the cost to try and get an extra $50 herself, or she was pitching a the 30 minute room at a discount. It's been a long time since I've done a room here, but I believe typical is $150 for 30 and 250 for 60 minutes. The girls in Palm Beach tend to be expensive though, $500 is a tad higher than what I've been quoted but $400 is a typical starting point.
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2 months ago
JasonMckin
California
Has any city recovered to pre-pandemic looks & mileage?
I hit mostly the same clubs as 25 and have similar observations. Prices are a somewhat higher across the board, but the quality and quantity of girls and clubs is very similar, there was a brief period where it was higher when the clubs first re-opened but it quickly settled back to normal. Mileage never really changed, we had an influx of low mileage girls from out of down upon first opening back up, but they didn't last long at all, literally a few weeks tops. Many more girls are quicker to bring up OTC and even more are open to it when asked, at first it seemed like the girls were just afraid of another lockdown and wanted to have customers on deck. But, it's persisted. Many girls seem to prefer OTC.
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2 months ago
tylerdurdan1
Florida
Red bull Vokdas and butt plugs
Ditto, total bullshit.
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2 months ago
blahblahblahs
Favorites and Terminololgy
Not to be a dick, but if we're being specific about terminology, Current ATF is contradictory or perhaps an oxymoron, but it's not redundant.
discussion comment
2 months ago
booty_lover92
Somewhere in the Carolinas
The Shoe on the Other Foot
Do, I think you're the only one? No. I'm betting this guy probably did too: https://tuscl.net/discussion/85928 Yeah, I'm exaggerating. But that is the sort of thing you might want to give a second thought to, ideally your little petty revenge by proxy mentality will stay petty and harmless. But, those are the sort of feelings that seem to always foundational to serial killers and mass shooters and shit. Don't let it spiral out of control. I don't get any satisfaction from that sort of thing. I do not particularly mind the typical interactions where she offers her company and I decline. I rather dislike the interactions where she persists to the point of annoyance and I have to be less than polite or even rude to get my point across. Luckily, those aren't very common. I don't let any of it ruin my visit, but I'd certainly prefer not to have to reject any of them. It would be perfect if every single girl who approached me was exactly my type and I could say yes every time. And don't think girls, even hot girls, don't know what its like to be rejected. Don't forget that tastes vary, one mans hot is another mans ugly. Even the hottest of the hot have been rejected for something, even if it was more perceived than actual. They've still felt it.
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2 months ago
blahblahblahs
Favorites and Terminololgy
They're all pretty much just strippers I like. It's not like I have a little notebook ranking my favorite strippers and clubs. I don't put a lot of thought into my favorite vs second favorite or any such nonsense. I tend to use the phrase a favorite stripper to mean basically any stripper I've seen a few times and enjoy. As far as balancing time, when I know I'm going to the club in advance I'll usually text the stripper I intend to see. When I get there, I usually see her pretty much the whole time I'm there. When I just show up, I play it by ear. If one girl looks particularly good that day, I might favor her. If one is busy and one is free, I'm usually happy to hang with the free one. Usually the girls have different styles, so it'll often come down to what I'm in the mood for that day. I might toss a girl I like but have skipped over on my last few visits a little tip, 20-40, and a quick pat on the ass or kiss on the cheek, just to make sure knows I still like her and encourage her to come see me if she sees me sitting alone. But that's the extent of effort I put in.
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2 months ago
ilbbaicnl
Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
Female condoms
The idea that guys are trying to get strippers to go raw doesn't surprise me one bit. As noted, my experience with the female condom is quite limited. But I will say that neither of us liked the female condom when we did try it. Just on the basis of sensation, I'd take a regular condom over the female one so would she. If a stripper suggested a female condom, it would give me pause. Simply because of my ignorance of their efficacy, I'd prefer the male condom where I understand proper use and associated risks. Given the infrequency with which its come up I've never bothered to do any research on the efficacy of female condoms. Also, I think they're expensive, relative to male ones at least. Of course I'm not the sort of guy to pressure a stripper into going raw in the first place, so maybe my preferences don't align with the customer base she's trying to appease. I can't imagine a guy trying to go raw would be concerned about effectiveness.
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2 months ago
basictoken
Help me figure out this interaction.
It happens. Many girls sorta get a certain dollar amount in their head from a customer and the second they see that customer they've already mentally counted on making that money and if they don't, they see it as losing the money. I think of it as a similar phenomena to how people with gambling problems view a bet they didn't make as a loss. In my experience, most of the time the girl will come right back over the next time she see's me, sometimes later that same visit and almost always its as if nothing happened. It's up to you if you want to deal with the drama and instability. I didn't see the interaction, so I don't know how bad it was. But I'm generally leery of girls who make a scene or anger quickly over small things and am quick to cut them off. That's partially because I'm mostly seeing girls ITC to eventually to get them OTC, and I do OTC at my home. So, I cut bait at the first sign of instability. Your situation may be different.
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2 months ago
ilbbaicnl
Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
Female condoms
I've seen exactly one stripper and zero civis try to use a female condom. Not enough info to really comment on type/brand favorites. But you could say my extensive research does indicate they prefer male condoms over female.
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2 months ago
dickdecker
Pennsylvania
Did ya ever……
Not uncommon for me to get naked in a room.
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2 months ago
Owlyoung_ggofv
Southern Libertine
Who has the better Latina Strippers (Texas vs Florida)
It's been a long time since I hit a Texas strip club so I can't comment directly, but occasionally we get girls from there in Pompano. It seems Houston and Austin are more common sources than Dallas. But, in my experience the recent transplants from TX are often somewhat reserved compared to the girls who've been in south Florida a while. That would lead me to think they're a bit more open here in Florida.
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2 months ago
ilbbaicnl
Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
Lines for when age-appropriate women try to pick you up
For age appropriate flirting that I'm not interested in I usually smile, play dumb, and go on about my business. Occasionally I actually am dumb and before I even realize what's happening I'm waist deep in it. My technique to cut bait is usually to just claim I'm in a long term committed relationship, then apologize for any leading on and blame it on being out of practice. I'm a little younger than Rick, and I have similar experiences with girls in a slightly lower age bracket, in their late 20's to mid thirties. For the Cuban girls, it seems age has no bearing whatsoever. I can't simply undercut the age bracket to avoid the problem, so I just deal with it.