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19 years ago
I agree on the signing forms, I find that totally inappropriate. One club that was here years ago used to always have you do it (I think it was one of the Deja Vu chain), but thankfully they got bought out and I have not noticed any others do it. The only thing now is when using a free pass, they make you sign the back of it -- all I do with those is just scribble, the doormen never give a shit.
A lot of the clubs here are in a really poor neighborhood, but only one of them frisks you. What they do is have the girls rotate working the door all night, and they basicly give you a flirtatious frisk grabbing you in all the right places. Not sure if they do it for any serious security reasons, it very well could be more of a way for girls to say hi to guys and get their foot in the door when it comes to hitting them up for privates.
If a club seems decent but they frisk, I would not be to worried. I would satisfied knowing they are proactive about security... better safe than sorry.
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19 years ago
Must say I have never had a dancer tip me, but that sounds like a gimmick to me as well.
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19 years ago
She is tall, blonde, thin, big boobs (altered), talks like she has adult a.d.d.
Bud I think you just described 1/2 the coked up strippers in every strip club across the country :) In all seriousness I would not get your hopes up on finding her, especially since there is no specefic region to look for her (she could be anywhere). No Heidi's in the clubs here that I have met, so if she goes by that name still I'm afraid I haven't seen her.
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19 years ago
Working good on my end, thanks a lot founder.
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19 years ago
It all depends on the night. When I am going to a strip club with a few friends, usually the latter is what we want - relax for a bit, drink some beers and maybe hit a few rounds of stage dances. However if I plan on getting privates, generally I would rather have a mediocre girl with good mileage than a smoking hot girl with so-so/no mileage. To me, getting a private dance with low mileage is a complete waste of money... that is of course why I rarely get dances at the nicer clubs, but they are still fun to go to.
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19 years ago
Jpac, I think you did the right thing; obviously she could of genuinely been hungry but I would bet 9/10 dancers that ask that are just trying to use you or gauge your reaction. The appropriate thing is what you did - just keep the conversation going and not offer... if she was just looking to scam you, it will probly be apparent pretty soon after she realizes you won't go get her food. If she was being genuine then she should not be expecting you to go buy her dinner and the talking will keep going.
Maybe I am just synical, but I think just about any time a dancer asks you for something you should be hesitant. They are trying to make a living at you expence, no matter how much you like a stripper I would not go to far out of the way for them unless you thought you honostly had a chance for a relationship outside the club that you wanted to persue. They make way to much money for you to feel guilty for them and their work situation.
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19 years ago
I don't think its that customers want to have adversarial relationships, I think it is a reaction/habit a lot of men form after having negative experiences with strippers. If you try to have a cooperative relationship with a dancer, where you are open with your time and money, a stripper can play along for the sole purpose of fleecing you and then hanging you out to dry. This in turn causes the customer to be more cautious, or adversial, with future dancers. I agree, a cooperative is best for both parties, but it just is not always doable when one person involved is looking for a quick score.
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19 years ago
I think around 2 songs is a good time a stripper should spend with you before they ask for a private, unfortunately it is usually about 15 seconds like you said. Girls want to get an immediate gauge for your spending possibilities and bail out to the next customer as fast as possible, which is understandable on busy nights but when a club is relatively empty it is pretty rude I think. I have seen girls be in the dressing room for 20 minutes, come out to do their set, then ask you if you want a private immediately when they come down from the stage... if you say no they will dissappear into the dressing room again until they are due back on stage. They should put a little salesmenship into the private dance offers.
Regarding tips, maybe I am a cheapscate but I rarely tip when getting privates -- especially if I spend a lot of money with the girl. The clubs around here are anywhere from $25-$40 per song, and never have 2-for-1 song specials or anything. If I get 3 songs for $75, I will probly give her $80 out of convenience, but generally I feel they are more then fairly compensated for their time and a tip isn't necessary. It really pisses me off when a girl asks for one after a dance (it rarely happens, but when it does it is usually from the dancers that give shitty privates to boot).
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19 years ago
I personally think that buying a drink should be considered a tip also, you are doing the girl a favor when you buy her that drink which is keeping the boss off her back. I was at a club about a month ago during the afternoon, and the dancer came to our table and said her boss was wanting her to go sit with the customers (I found that statement to be pretty rude but did not take it personally), then after talking about she is so sick of drinking at work... she asks one of the guys I was with to buy her a drink. And wouldn't you know it she ordered some bullshit $12 daqari. It was pretty clear her boss was wanting her to sit with us for that purpose.
I don't mind *offering* to buy a drink for a dancer that I am having a good time with or I come to see often, but when they come sit down for a few minutes then ask for a drink I get irritated. Another good one I have seen on more than one occasion is when a girl has you buy her a drink, then she takes one sip and leaves it at the table to go somewhere and never return.
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19 years ago
I agree with JC2003.
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19 years ago
"My current SO says looking is cheating and lap dancing is definately out."
I can understand a wife not wanting you to get a lapdance (I don't agree but I understand), to say no looking even is just silly IMO. I am sure your SO is not in the minority with that attitude thought.
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19 years ago
I can't believe most clubs would do a background check on dancers, that would eliminate the majority of potential employees I would think. Now running background checks on other staffers maybe, but that would be a bit hypocritical since they need to be able to trust a dancer to honostly tip out just like they need to trust a guy to take money at the cash register honestly. Maybe the upscale clubs only do this?
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19 years ago
casualguy, I am by no means a doctor but I was actually talking about this type of things tonight with friends. As far as I know it is very hard to contract a STD from saliva alone, it is when the person has some kind of exposed sore in/on their mouth that makes things risky. I am not sure about that so I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong.
I have been offered oral from a stripper before during a private and passed because I was not sure about the above and did not think it was worth the risk. If a stripper is offering it to me, god knows how many people she has done it to in the past more less that night alone. I would never let things go past a HJ in a club.
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19 years ago
"I've been smoking for 50 years. I got a chest exray last month and no caner was found. Should I quit smoking?"
Absolutely quit smoking. That is the equivelant of me saying that I have never been in a head on collision where I was thrown out of the windshield of my car, so there is no reason for me to wear a seatbelt. Just because you have been lucky does not mean you should discard common sense.
I don't want to preach on weather you should or should not smoke, I just don't agree with that logic.
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19 years ago
I agree with Yoda, every amateur night I have been to has girls participating that are clearly not amateurs; most likely girls from other clubs or from out of town. Overall a lame experience and I avoid clubs on nights they do it.
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19 years ago
SuperDude's lines are pretty close to what I would say. I usually just say something like "I am broke and here with a friend, but if you are giving out free dances I am always willing to accept" or just politely excuse yourself and go to the stages to see another girl dance. There is nothing wrong with being not-so-subtle to a stripper about not being interested, the whole point of going to clubs is to pay to see girls *you are attracted too*, no point in wasting time with girls you are not.
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19 years ago
Hi GoldieMack, the forums only go back a week or so and there is no archive that I know of. What goes on in VIP rooms varies greatly from club to club, some places just have the normal lap dances you are probly used to getting, while others go as far as full on prostitution if you ask. The best way to get an idea is to read all the reviews of the clubs in your area. Most reviews are pretty honest in my opinion, but just because one person got something special does not necessarily mean you will also! It all depends on the dancer, the night, the money youo are spending, etc. Just use them as a general guide as to what can be done, but yes there is more than private dances going on in some VIP rooms.
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19 years ago
I echo all the points that shadowcat has made. This has happened to me before and there is little you can do but just not give them your money in the future. Most of the girls I get dances for will let me know when the next song begins (say something like "do you want to keep going or stop here?"), which is a good way to gauge how much I owe without her being too rude. Also, most dancers give a discount if you get more than one if you talk about it up front (i.e. $30 for one, $50 for two songs). From my experience, they are more than happy to knock a few bucks off if they know they are goingt to get a decent amount of money from you.
I only tip when a stripper has been very nice or given me a good time in a private room. As a rule of thumb, if a stripper has to ask you for a tip then they probly did not earn one. It is totally optional and don't think you will look like a huge asshole if you don't give her one (especially if you think she is charnging you for an extra song).
Some strippers will start a dance in the middle of a song, and when that song is over they will consider that private dance over. Others (the honest ones) will start a dance about a minute into a song, and then about a minute into the next song they will consider it another dance which I think is fair. The best way to deal with this is to ask a dancer not to begin the private until a new song is starting, this makes sure there is no confusion and they should be happy to comply because they know you are going to spend some good money with them.
Dj's generally are out to screw you by cutting songs short/blending them together. It can get very confusing, don't be afraid to casually ask "how many songs has that been?" if you are in the middle of a private marathon. You are the one with the money and it is in my opinion that most dancers are smart enough not to try and rip you off. You do need to keep tabs on what is going on to make sure you don't get taken, though.
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19 years ago
tiffany1, just curious are you a guy or a gal? If you are a guy, that is one hell of a story and can't say I have ever had a stranger do shit for me before at a strip club. I would be worried he was gay as well but it looks like you got out of there before he did so you avoided a weird confrontation if he was.
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19 years ago
I agree the pricing is nuts, for the most part the girls offer little more than they do at the stage. I can only wish we had someplace around here with $10 lap dancers - they would definitely get me to spend more money but I would be glad to do so.
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19 years ago
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I have experienced #1 before... a club here officers "hot tub dances" for something insane like $200 per 15 minutes. The dancers are notorious for basically implying/flat out saying that you will be getting extras if you buy them and then just delivering standard lap dance in water. It pisses me off because I am not paying $30 a song to hear a fucking sales pitch... more grind on my lap, less yap.
Any time a girl asks for a tip in advance that should be an automatic red flag. I believe every time I have encountered this the dancers have been scammers/air dancers. If they pull that shit after I have already paid for the dance, I try to just tell them if they go the extra mile you will tip when its done. I find it rude when a dancer asks for a tip, but asking for a tip *before* the services are rendered is completely inappropriate.
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19 years ago
I like officers suggestion as well, though I would bet that would be a bitch to implement. There's a ton of clubs listed here and really only people local to the clubs know which towns/cities should be grouped together. Using the zip code search the site already has basically gives you the same results.
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19 years ago
C-Mowes is hands down the worst club I have ever stepped in regards to the quality of girls. Not a single girl in the whole club that was anything close to a 5.
There are a few other clubs in the Washington Park, IL area that can be considered hit or miss -- and when they miss, they miss big time.
Dollies (Washington Park, IL)
Miss Kittys (Washington Park, IL)
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19 years ago
*rubs salt in wound*
Seriously though, I have never really ran into this problem personally. Just remind yourself that if she has got you feeling like this, it just means she is really good at her job.
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19 years ago
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