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14 years ago
Always ask when they have to go up next to avoid this.
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14 years ago
Agree with Slothrop, you're being played. But so what? As long as you know it and stay in control, let her pretend she's manipulating you. In fact, you ccluld probably lead her to new levels b ecause she thinks she's doing it.
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14 years ago
The review seemed legit to me. It was polite, not flaming. His experience with the club is different and it's fair to contrast it with someone else's. Comparison and contrast is the the nature of a review. I've seem some pathetic reviews, this one is way above them.
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14 years ago
Dancer shoes have become something like street hooker accessories, no offense intended to any dancer. They've way over the top concept-wise. I do like what high heels are supposed to do for a woman's look: accentuate the legs and ass. But instead these dancer shoes are accentuating the-----shoes! It's time to get back to the original purpose. Whoever comes up with a better solution to this for dancers is going to set the next apparel trend for them.
What really annoys me are those shoes designed to hold coins!
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14 years ago
Make the customer happy--what a concept. This guy should start up another club with that concept in mind or maybe give strtip club owner seminars!
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14 years ago
Strip clubs give you the opportunity to involve all the senses: see, hear, feel,taste. If there a better value in the adult genre, I don't know what it is.
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14 years ago
A dancer who knows what she's doing can play with my balls anytime. Unfortuinately, not every dancer knows how. Some of the more ignorant ones seem as if they've watched a domination porn flick the night before and want to try something out.
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14 years ago
This is no differfent than anything else--i.e., proceed with caution. Start with a lunch or dinner somewhere. You offer to meet her or maybe pick her up, not go inside her house. Socialize, have fun, get to know each other more. Find out what this is all about:
--companionship
--friend relationship
--seeking a real relationship
--companionship sex
--sex for money
--or just stripper shit.
You really can't make importrant decisions until ytou learn more. If you'r curious, interested and like the excitement, check it out. But use cautioon and common senswe. If she was expicitly selling sex, she would have let you know already. So she has another agenda, you need to find out what it is. If you spend more time with a dancer in a club you can usually figure out if you want to spend more time with her elsewhere by the way she handles herself and how you relate.
I've exchanged numbers with several dancers, but only afdter I've understood more about them. I've also given out my number too early and regretted it.
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14 years ago
Good luckc, be safe and ... thank you for volunteering.
Yes, watch out for clubs around military bases. Just read reviews by cities on here to find the ones in that category and you can easily tell that you don't find the best times there relative to other places. Of course, that's easy for someone else to say who's not had all his earthly privilges stripped from him and then doled out one by one for good behavior lol!
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14 years ago
59, re "deep into a private life"...yes, it's not something that you would expect on a spontaneous basis in a first encounter. But that's where the conversation led and how it evolved naturally, no forced probing or anything like that which would be odd. That's why it was such an unusual first time and why I posted this.
Some dancers I just don't want to know too much about. But I admit that I know some very well. That's part of the hobby, and when that occurs, it's no fantasy.
I guess I put the dancers into two categories; fantasy and personal. Some I keep for fantasy and some I get to know better. It's always mutual feeling type of thing and I'm very selective about it. And even in column two, in general I don't share that much and I don't want to know that much. There are always exceptions.
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14 years ago
It's the new version of "dish pan hands." While not every dancer I know has rough hands, a lot of them certanly do.
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14 years ago
"Are all DJ clubs alike?"
They're corporate clubs, and corporate clubs suck.
ArtCollege: First speeding cameras. Now, strip club door camers! What's next, pay toilets?
Solution: We as citizens loan power to government on a temporary basis. It's time we started taking it back.
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14 years ago
No shorts! What an outrage. This is America, or at least it used to be. However, I draw the line at shorts in the winter. I don't like frost forming on my balls during the walk into the club.
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14 years ago
Re DC: "they'll create plenty of jobs, too"
Of the 500,000 some "new" jobs that the federal government bragged the economy created last quarter in it's report released today, only 46,000 jobs were in the private sector. Hmmm, sounds like they're running a scam. Now, back to strip clubs.
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14 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Another way of looking at it: ITC the dancer is more in control and your moves are limited. OTC, you are in control and theoretically have unlimited possibilities absent the club environmental constraints.
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14 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
Agree, we can always test drive a stripper in the club to see how she handles. With an escort, the sale is final. And with escorts, it's all business. With strippers, it's more like networking.
Another way to look at it, finding an OTC stripper takes time and effort, so you really appreciate what you've found when it's all finalized. Finding and escort is too easy. So isn't the "work harder/more personal value" maxim in effect?
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14 years ago
Play it out and see what happens, but I'd be careful about including the wife unless you know she can hanhdle it. With the wife involved, could you handle it?
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14 years ago
Mostly day shift with some night excursions for variety. There are fewer management types walking around during days and thus dancers seem more relaxed and willing to play hard.
Management seems to be more strict at night because crowds skew younger which give more "monitoring" than they would to day shift customers, who skew a little older than average. So the odds are better during the day. Also fewer customers, so it's easier to sit and chat or play at the bar if that's part of your thing.
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14 years ago
I hate numbers but I love women. I look for a combination that turns me on. So the simple answer to your question is--it doessn't matter that much as long as she's not ugly.
I look for dancers who are reasonably attractive, have an appealling feature(s) e.g. a great ass, and demonstrate that they will work hard to earn their money. That does eliminate the butterfaces, but the girl next door look (which I define as average) is in the mix.
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14 years ago
It's been at least once a week fore a long time.
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14 years ago
A lot of good ideas put forth. Here are some more.
1) Emphasis on hospitality to make the customer feel welcome and special as opposed to just providing "service", with training to make it happen.
2) Realistic (instead of exorbitant) pricing of dances, private areas and VIP rooms. This would discourage lazy dancers waiting for Mr. Big aand encourage repeat volume business.
3) If you're a regular, my club would make you a VIP. No special fee or hoops to jump through. VIPs get one free dance and other perks that would evolve over time.
4) I would require every new dancer to develop a career plan that envisions how long they will be in the industry (regardless of where they work), what else they want to do and encourages them to make plans for a transition. This would help somewhat to attract smarter dancers and discourage druggies and other undesirables.
5)Dancers would pick their own music.
6) No DJ. An MC, master of ceremonies, would announce dancers, play their music, recognize VIP customers and provide background trivia about the entertainers. He/she would not be a dancer supervisor and would not be obnoxious.
7) I would keep my "enforcers" behind the scenes to be visible only when needed in case of lawlessness, physical abuse or extreme unrulely behavior. (And I mean extreme, it would be OK to have fun.)
8) There would be theme nights to attract different types of crowds.
9) There would be theme private dance areas to cater to customer preferences.
10) Routine shower shows, jacuzzi room, massage service.
11) A nude section and a topless section.
12) I would keep things non-smoking but would provide a separate and ventilated smoking room so my customers who smoked would not have to go outside.
13) Dancers would not be allowed to wear perfume, other than scented soap products.
14) If you needed to freshen up before going home, courtesy supplies of mouthwash, men's cologne and other grooming products would be available in a special customer lounge.
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14 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I can only have "so much fun" ITC, and it usually works out better for me OTC. If I'm in the mood for a lot of flirting, playfulness, getting to know her with drinks and conversation, etc. I go along with the SC experience. But for real action, I'm at the point where OTC is my preferred choice.
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14 years ago
Tour guide: avoid the shitholes, love those dives (diamonds in the rough).
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14 years ago
Gator, I wonder if silicone is in the futures market.
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14 years ago
Boring.
Can't we all get a little ass somewhere and be friends?