OTC Stripper vs, Professional Escort

Rick, my preference for OTC is aligned with your desire to see and talk to the girls before decided to inquire further. That's not something I can get from any escort service around here. Not to mention scams. So far, I've responded to three CraigsList ads. For each of them, I got an obviously canned response that eventually got around to directing me to a "free" dating site that wanted my credit card for "age verification". Nice try, but no thanks.

In addition, consider three words: Law Enforcement Sting".

I personally consider OTC with a stripper to be safer in this regard, because, before we even start talking about anything extra, I get to do things that no undercover police officer would allow. Oh sure, LE could have hired, or coerced with promises of leniency or immunity, a real stripper to trap me, but I consider that a lower probability.

It's also possible that the police would raid the place, but I've seen cops come into my favorite club a couple of times now, and everybody, including the people in VIP, seems to know it in just a few minutes. :)

Frankly, I'm not convinced the "sure thing" comment is all that accurate in this case, either. I've never been turned down by someone I've asked, if we've already established and agreed that it's something we want to do. There might have been a scheduling issue, but one the time and place are set, I've never had a a problem with a no-show or no-perform.

Maybe I've just gotten lucky in that regard, but I don't really believe that.

Talking a stripper into OTC has numerous advantages, putting it into car terms:

Stripper: You see the car, you look under the hood, kick the tires and take the car for a test drive.

Escort-might be a car, or a moped, or some tires, you don't know. On a rare chance, it might be a Rolls Royce too.

The thing is, actually meeting the escort. When I worked at the hotel, I rescued an escort who ran in-being chased by two really pissed clients, who by their actions, wanted to take said woman and be violent with her. She was one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. How she got herself in that situation ?????????????

Rick: "There are others who prefer the escort route because, among other reasons, it is a surer thing. "

I bet many here are going to say the opposite. We prefer strippers precisely because they are not a sure thing. There is more thrill of the unknown.

Georg and Dude, I couldn't agree more. Seeing her, talking with her, etc., is a great primer for later activities. I used to do escorts in my younger years, but always had a better time with OTC strippers, particularly when I pick ones with the right attitude.

Here in Chicago, OTC with strippers is not as easily available as it seems to be in other places -- and much more expensive than an escort. If the cost were a little closer I would totally agree with all the other posters, because it is worth paying a premium to get to know the woman a little first before you make your decision. At some point, though, the value proposition turns back to escorts.

I agree with gmd on this one, regarding LE stings. I've only attempted one escort adventure, and nothing happened. I was in TX on business and called one found on BP. I inquired if they had out-call Asian women. They replied in the affirmative. When I called back to set something up, there was no out-call, but many Asian women. I deferred.

Rick, your personal preference exactly matches mine. I must have seen over 100 escorts and though most have been great you do get the odd disaster although as a general rule of thumb the more you pay the less likely that is. What I can't understand is why LE in the States are so determined to operate stings all the time.

My questions for you though is that do you find that getting an OTC with the girl you really want is more difficult than you would like, i.e. are these girls not available for OTC and do you settle for a 8 when you really wanted the 9 or 10?

London, looking for OTC with strippers is very hit or miss. In some clubs the girls are blatant about it, but in many the ones that do OTC tend to be discreeet, so it takes time and patience. You sometimes sift through many girls before you find one that (1) is open to it; and (2) that you like. In a new city my success rate is about 50%, which means that half the time I am empty-handed.

Also, it is generally not the "10s" doing OTC directly out of the clubs, though I have had a some strong 8s and one 9 over the years. When I am evaluating a potential OTC girl one of the things I am looking for is attitude. She has to be attractive, but not necessarily perfect. Does she seem like she would be fun? Might she be someone I might want to have as a "friend" in this particular city down the road?

If you are looking for a sure thing or absolutely need to have a 10, then high-end escorts are your best bet. If you are looking to have a down and dirty time with an attractive girl with a little less "professional" feel, then IMO the OTC stripper route is unmatched.

I have never been with a true escort. In my young and foolish days, I did pick up some street walkers. Maybe I am getting too old for this shit. My dick does not get instantly hard. I cannot just let an escort into my room and immediatelt fuck her. I need the GFE experience. Maybe even dinner first.

Agree Rick, A girl scoring 10 for looks and personality is the best combo. Last time in LV one of the girls I had an OTC with was a 7, but she was a great lay. I have never beaten my achievement on my first visit when I had a girl that scored 9/9 and was just about perfect in the sack.

SC's in my experience girls fall into either GFE or PSE categories, I like them both but book one or the other depending on my mood.

Rick: "it is generally not the "10s" doing OTC directly out of the clubs, though I have had a some strong 8s and one 9 over the years"

IME, the better looking they are the more likely they are to do OTC. 10's are definitely the most likely.

Actually Shadowcat you should eat dinner after wards. Having a big meal right before sex can inhibit blood flow and make it more difficult to get and stay hard.

I've made no secret of the fact that I prefer escorts to trying to get stripper OTC. After twenty plus years of P4P however I am rarely paying for sex with someone that I haven't already met, conversed with and fucked. The occasional new girl can be a bit of an adventure but if you do your research things will usually go well.

Yoda, you indeed have not made any secret of your preferences, particularly in the other forum in which we both post. Also, given the area you are from I can very much understand the source of your preferences.

For me, nothing beats club takeout. I like the privacy as nobody has my name. I also like the shopping part of it, particularly the moment when it all comes together. For me there is nothing like getting to know the girl, getting to "the conversation" and closing the deal. One night in NYC I was even able to do this twice out of 2 different clubs, one girl as the mid evening fun and another as the late night second shift.

In fact, once I've hit one, I am almost more likely to look for some variety than to revisit the same girl again, though there are a few in different cities where this is not the case.

I favor otc strippers over escorts. You have a chance to meet the girl, possibly do her itc, and I believe strippers may be less fucked out than some escort doing a lineup of men per day.

At the club where I am VIP itc is readily available. The one I have been seeing 2 years otc I did itc the first time I did her. I did her Thur at $150, Friday at $120 and we are on for Monday. I also have an alternate - Jessica (in my pics) who is an x stripper, back page escort. I do her now and then.

My prob here in Houston is not in finding strippers who will fuck itc or otc its simply being overwhelmed by all the variety available. I have concentrated 75% of my spending on the one I have been seeing almost 2 years. I did her for $150 thur, $120 Fri, and we have a meeting scheduled Monday. Her performance has been really good vs others. Because she is married (and he does not know) she is not fucked out like escorts I have known.

One thing I might add:

Many escorts have BF who knows what they do. Usually he has them on drugs. These 2 factors can really screw things up. With otc strippers I get a situation where I have had a chance to meet the girl (and then decide if I wanna do her) and be in control without dealing with some pimp or incall locn where you don't know who could come bursting in. I meet them at motels that rent room for $25 for 2 hr.

sorry for the repetition in the post above (wish I could edit these).

There was a similiar topic to this on a different forum. I think people either like strip clubs or they like escorts. And because escorts compete in their own market, prices are more clear cut.

I actually like them both, but I've never went through the hassle of getting a stripper OTC. How do you guys usually approach that one? The couple times I've asked, they weren't into it. Maybe wrong girl?

I've had plenty of escort encounters and they've all been safe (knock on wood).

My two worst were an escort that didn't mention to me her incall was in an apartment and a crazy crackhead. No way in hell I was going in there to get jumped with the apartment one.

The crackhead was just nuts afterwards. I parked in a very large parking lot a block away for security (from LE) and went in. She did fine, even if she was a crackhead. Later, she called me over and over and over again demanding more money. She kept saying she had my license plate and a GPS and she was coming to get me... ha ha ha. Remember, I parked elsewhere. I finally called up her pimp and told him to get her off the friggin drugs. He apologized and she never called again.

I like clubs for security. I can handle my own security with escorts (I often arrive armed for protection from thugs), but have been lucky enough not to have ever needed it. That said, 80% of my escort times have been in hotel rooms I have rented because it's just a lot more safe than sketchy incall locations. As I get older, it seems like clubs are the way to go. Less hassle, even if I have to pay a little extra.

Also, I've only had one or two escorts with fake pictures. I'm very up front with the escort or the agency and I always let them know I won't pay a dime if the girl in the picture isn't the one I'm getting. Try that out if you get an escort.

I should add I've been with several famous porn stars, which you don't get in a club!!

I think that it all depends on the end game. If you are looking for a longer term thing the OTC is a good possibility. On the other hand if you are just looking for thrills and a clean slate tomorrow you are better off with an escort. It seem s from my experience that the club girls that do OTC are far more likely to look towards making it some sort of "relationship" that the true escorts.

I have seen some former dancers posting ads on craigslist escort section. Hard to tell if an escort is truly independent or if she is with an agency or boyfriend.

Agree, we can always test drive a stripper in the club to see how she handles. With an escort, the sale is final. And with escorts, it's all business. With strippers, it's more like networking.

Another way to look at it, finding an OTC stripper takes time and effort, so you really appreciate what you've found when it's all finalized. Finding and escort is too easy. So isn't the "work harder/more personal value" maxim in effect?

"I should add I've been with several famous porn stars"

Like who?

PT, read the article, "Maximizing OTC Options When Traveling" that I posted in the articles section about 6 months ago. Even without the suit, many of the filtering concepts are the same. This works well for me, but others have their own opinions.

I think if it was a porn star, I would prefer escorting with her than being at the strip club. Feature porn star dancers are too popular and busy trying to promote autographed dvds and calendars.

You can spend more money on recruiting girls in the strip club for OTC than you will spend on the OTC session itself.

craigslist is the low end for prostitutes (although still above street walkers) and in ohio there are busts every other week on the news because of fake craigslist prostitute ads.

I've done ITC, but not OTC (partly due to logistics, and mostly because hotels require CC's and it shows up on the bill even if it's just a refunded deposit. Would be a hard time explaining that to the wife.

I've also been with a good amount of escorts. In my early days when I was young and didn't know what I was doing, I made a lot of mistakes with escorts... mostly falling for the bait and switch, or getting the services of a girl who wouldn't do anything but a tug job for $500... I laughed hard at that. I've only done incall at a few reputable places, but very rarely. I prefer out-call to a hotel if possible.

I eventually discovered sites like TER and others that have made getting quality escorts (who look like their picture and provide the all the services I want at the price advertised) MUCH easier and with far fewer problems.

I've also been with 2 porn stars (both in Vegas). It's a TON of fun but it can also cost an arm and a leg.

I've since given up escorts for the most part. Nowadays I stick to ITC or the occasional trip south of the border to Adelitas or HK, since San Diego clubs are way too strict in general.

I would much rather go the massage parlor/jack shack route. Very little chance of LE bust, and FS is guaranteed. Luckily those places abound in the Tampa Bay area.

I have done massage parlors but they just don't do it for me. Next week I'm taking a hot Italian number into the city for an evening of good dining, followed by a night visiting NYC strip clubs and finishing with the early hours in my hotel bed. She is making no money in her club and the cash infusion from me is much needed by her (and I think she is looking forward to the night on the town, but who really knows), and a good drunken night of excess is much needed by me ;)

No way to get that in a jack shack and a pro escort would want a fortune for a night like that. This is obviously not an everyday type of thing, but the point is that the OTC stripper is the best of both worlds - open to all sorts of possibilities but not quite a strict professional, which IMO makes it a better experience.