discussion comment
7 years ago
"So she told me she can come earlier for me or some other day if I will let her know."
I would go with one of these options. Which option I would go for would depend on how much money I was going to drop. For a hundred or so have her come in earlier, win-win situation for both, you get your dances and some hangout time, and she has a decent start to her night. If for another night you would need to make it worth her while. Keep in mind dancers have to pay fees to work and she might not even be able to leave once your time with her is done.
discussion comment
7 years ago
I had a night like this, minus the car jacking. Had a bit too much to drink and obviously in no condition to drive. Went and sat in the car to have a smoke and text up buddy to see if he would come and get me. Buddy didn't reply. Figured I'd just grab a room at the attached motel to the club but ended up passing out for a couple of hours, duh. After that went into the motel to book a room but no rooms were available. Was standing outside figuring out what I was going to do. Two girls and a guy came out, the girls were strippers and they all recognized me from the club. Anyways one of the girls invited me back to her room, got a hj and crashed their till later in the morning. Probably not the smartest thing to do but nothing bad happened. Easiest otc I've ever gotten. lol.
discussion comment
7 years ago
![]()
shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
I'm looking to set up an otc or two, either with a stripper or someone from SA. Also wouldn't mind hitting up the casino for an evening.
discussion comment
7 years ago
Remember one night a stripper told me if you want to see other girls you will need to talk to me about it first. It was okay, I was getting quite a bit of time out of it. Spend a bit over a few visits and they think they own you. When strippers have had a good thing going with me, they always seem to find a way to screw it up for themselves. Anyways had a falling out with this stripper at the beginning of the year. Got accused of cheating, I wasn't. Couple weeks ago she came up to me for the first time in months, spending usually dries up in my area this time of year.
discussion comment
7 years ago
When I used to travel for work $500+ for just dances and drinks was quite common, although the dances had decent mileage. W.r.t. OTC nowadays I try to keep the spending low and find out quite quickly if OTC activities are available.
discussion comment
7 years ago
If you could provide something a stripper would want, you could certainly barter for services. Lots of possibilities really. I know lots of strippers who cab it to and from work, one way could easily be $20-$40. By the end of the month that adds up to quite a bit, if she could get free transportation a few days a week I would imagine something could be worked out.
discussion comment
7 years ago
![]()
JohnTitordon't sweat the petty things-pet the sweaty things
Probably more willing to share intel about customers who are creepy, non-spenders, etc. and keeping the good customers to themselves.
discussion comment
7 years ago
Couple hundred in my area should get them to leave what they are doing and chill at my table.
discussion comment
7 years ago
![]()
loperjust looking for a little human contact along the way
My CF does that move all the time, figure it's just part of the show. At any given time anyone can walk past the dance area and see what's going on. I go to mostly non-extras clubs. However, IME the more time and money you spend on a girl, the more you will generally be allowed to get away with.
discussion comment
7 years ago
![]()
LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.
It's a getting to know you type of question that a stripper will ask, usually followed up by other questions to make it seem like she is interested in you, in order to sell you on dances. Consider it SS, part of her sales technique, hustle, etc. She doesn't care what brought you in, more interested in that you are there and you might be able to drop some cash on her. So no secret answer.
I normally go with coming from the casino, checking things out here before I head for home. Quite often I am actually just coming from the casino and if I'm stopping in I have some winnings to spend. Even got some pics on my phone of some of my wins. Has worked out well.
discussion comment
7 years ago
Exact same thing happened to me the other night. Fav of mine was with her SD. After her stage set was done, she went back to his table and didn't budge for the rest of the night. I chose not to compete. Even if I could pull her away for a few minutes it would have been straight for dances, her and I usually hang out a bit out front before going for dances and I knew that wasn't going to happen on this visit. Their will be other nights when the girl you want isn't as busy.
discussion comment
7 years ago
![]()
shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Way too much for me, could find better things to spend that money on. Paid a little over a hundred for my Samsung android.
discussion comment
7 years ago
Good stuff guys.
@Uprightcitizen: Can only get decent two-way contact dances in my area, after a few visits I would end paying her fee in dances anyways, doesn't make too much sense to keep going back. For sure FS would be preferred.
@Call.Me.Ishmael: Yeah think I'll just continue talking at this point.
@SC: Good point.
@Cashman: I do believe she is new to stripping, never seen her before in my area dancing, and I do know she worked in a non-stripping job previously. Never know holidays aren't too far away.
@JohnSmith: BBBJCIM sounds good, maybe a couple lol. Not too crazy about the per hour rate though, I usually just pay a flat amount. Yeah I'll find out what's exactly on her menu.
@Jackslash: lol. Or maybe $25 for a hj. lmao.
@Mr. Deuce: Not too bad of a deal you got going on. Good luck with the overnighter.
@Lone Wolf: Good points.
Thanks for the replies guys.
discussion comment
7 years ago
This reminds me a lot of my CF. Never asks me to go for dances or buy her drinks but I do. Doesn't do extras, or SS. She has a couple of kids. I'm trying to get her out on a "real" date, lol.
You already have her number, just ask, and re-evaluate as you go along.
discussion comment
7 years ago
I prefer extended otc's that last at least a few hours. Go out for dinner, drinks at a club, hit up a casino, shoot some pool or whatever else is fun to do. Late at night she may decide to stay over, and you end up getting a great deal. Even if it doesn't you still got to hang out with your favorite stripper for a few hours for hopefully a decent rate and got laid.
Usually go with middle of the road hotels. Stock the hotel fridge with drinks, maybe some weed if she smokes, bring your own condoms, etc.
discussion comment
7 years ago
I was out at one of my local clubs on Saturday night, they weren't carrying the fight. It was actually pretty dead for most of the night, when the fight was over it got crazy busy. Seemed like the number of dancers was down as well.
discussion comment
7 years ago
Ask and find out. Some extras girls will not see you OTC because they are already making decent coin with ITC activities. Years ago when I used to travel on business this one extras girl was down for pretty much anything except f*king. I asked her to come to my hotel room and she told me that would be very expensive. God bless her for not trying to take advantage of me, lol. Obviously her way of saying I'm not going to f*k but I might if your dumb enough to pay my high rate. :)
She also has the security of the club to watch out for her. Customers won't get out of line and she knows she will get paid. More risk for her by seeing someone on the outside.
$300 for a hand job, granted the club got some of this money for the room, she might, just work out the details beforehand.
discussion comment
7 years ago
That's a good price for a well reviewed escort. As long as your getting the experience you want that's all that matters. For sure you could get a cheaper price point and longer time with a stripper but you may not get the whole experience your looking for.
One dude may give a stellar review on a particular escort, you may not have the same great time. Always a YMMV type of deal. Best to see the escort for a much shorter session to see if it's good for you. Then go for a longer session. Become a regular and you will probably get a much better price still. I don't think I would do it, escorts have never been my thing.
discussion comment
7 years ago
"Turns out she was too controlling, greedy and a cock-blocker in the club. Just learned about the downside becoming a dancer's regular. This chick flipped out seeing me chat up another dancer. A number of people have commented recently in another thread about not becoming any dancer's regular if OTC is your game. I agree!"
This reminds me of my CF who dumped my ass this week, last night as a matter of fact. Things were going great with the CF until she suggested that I should start tipping her more, I didn't and service went downhill after that. Earlier in the week she tried to do a quick sell on dances which I didn't go for. I got accused of seeing another dancer, there was no other dancer, lol. She yells over from another table and says oh I'm better then her. I didn't stay too long after that, outside I saw her smoking up with some old dude, wished each other a good night and carried on. Early a.m. she sends me a text pic of her in her panties and asks is everything alright babe? lol. I didn't respond back till the next day, she wasn't very chatty. Last night she didn't even acknowledge me at all, I was there most of the night so she knows I was there. I'm starting to think this chick is kinda crazy.
discussion comment
7 years ago
I haven't been asked that much, when I was asked to help I didn't, and service remained pretty much the same.
I'm not against helping out. It would have to be with someone I've already seen on the outside. If it's a small amount like a cell phone bill I would probably do that. I wouldn't expect to see it back. For higher amounts I might say yeah hun drop by in a bit, have a bite to eat, hang out, watch a movie or whatever. So indirectly saying she can earn it but I'm going to get something out of it.
discussion comment
7 years ago
Other PL's might just be paying her stated rate and she has no reason to go lower. Or maybe she knows your overly interested in her and is just trying to squeeze a little bit more out of you. Who knows. If you think the latter you could try waiting it out a little bit longer.
You will need to sleep with her to find out how good or bad the sex is.
Even if she won't go lower maybe she would be willing to negotiate on other things. An evening out, outfit requests, additional services, overnighter, or whatever else floats your boat. Myself, I'd rather go out for a bite to eat, hit up a nightclub, do some drinking, and finish things off back at the hotel. Who knows how things will go, she might still be with you in the morning. Good luck.
discussion comment
7 years ago
** Update**
Found some good options as of last week that have more realistic allowance expectations.
Girl #1 - Was a bit shocked when she agreed to a couple hundred. I then suggested a meet and greet, she asked how much I was going to pay for that, duh. She has read my message but didn't reply back. I wasn't offering an allowance for the meet and greet but offered to pay any other expenses for the meet. (coffee, drinks, meal, etc.) I may follow up with her later if my other options don't work out.
Girl #2 - Was supposed to meet this one at the mall on Sunday afternoon for coffee. She didn't ask for anything to meet. She cancelled on me a couple of hours before saying she was sick and asked to postpone for another day. I'm not really buying this story, although it could be true. However, I see her online every few hours, makes me wonder. If the actual date ever happens she says I can pay her whatever I feel comfortable with.
Girl #3 - Texted this one up on Sunday evening. Next day I see she texted back at two in the morning to tell me her phone was dead. lol. We talked a bit today over text, haven't scheduled a meet yet. Kind of holding out for girl #2 right now to see if that is a go. She wants 250 for the first date, which is fine, but every successive date should be a bit more, says her sd's in the past have done this. Hmmm not too sure what to make of that.
discussion comment
7 years ago
It's for transportation fee.
discussion comment
7 years ago
@shailynn well said
@subraman These bigger spenders are playing the game at a much higher level and no doubt having some amazing experiences. "(go ahead, ask me what those girls do for a living outside SA)". Let me guess are they strippers.
You should write that article, I would read it, your always very informative on here.
I'm not surprised the bigger spenders are having less problems with flaking. 1) They are likely spending a bit more per date in the beginning and looking for more frequent meet ups compared to the minimal type guys and 2) Most sb's are busy, they would rather earn all of it from one guy instead of having to take dick from a bunch of other guys each month.
@Sinclair I did read your article, nice read.
@Bj99 Some guys pay for the first meet and greet and some don't. I treat it as an investment of time for both parties involved. However if it was a good meet you could throw her a fifty because your likely going to be contacting her again.
@johnsmith69 It is a lot of work.
discussion comment
7 years ago
Back in May Rick had a positive earnings report and an acquisition, stock price went up after that, looks like the stock got a little ahead of itself too quickly and is somewhat coming back down to earth. I don't think there run is over just yet however. Same store earnings are up and adding assets is a plus.