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13 years ago
I walk in without any expectations of OTC action. For that matter, I don't expect any ITC either. Maybe I'm not reading the "code" the right way, but I have not had any dancers offering anything that could be considered an extra. The one time I felt comfortable enough to start pushing for an OTC hook-up, there were several near-misses and a lot of SS, so it never happened. I have now come to think that if the dancer initiates the OTC discussion, there is a far greater chance of it happening than if you were the one to initiate the discussion. I am going to assume that until I develop an ATF relationship with a dancer (4 or 5 visits), then OTC isn't even on the table. But in the meantime, the hot lappers are still fun.
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13 years ago
Ha, thanks, Rod, for clarifying. I was wondering if the current US SC scene compared to the old Soviet-style economy of nothing got done unless everybody in the chain got paid off. I wasn't asking about Russian SCs; I imagine that would be another wild thread.
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13 years ago
I can't speak to the clubs specifically, since I was with the wife when I visited TJ. But I will say this: there was a completely different vibe between daylight and dusk. We went on a Saturday. I was generally surprised by the relatively modern buildings in downtown. There were some dirt-poor people but they looked like Guatemalans selling handcrafts off of blankets on the ground. The shops didn't have ridiculously low prices like I expected. There was lots of electronics, cameras, wood-carvings, leather goods, and polished stone chess sets. There were plenty of street vendors selling roasted corn and stuff. I was surprised at how aggressively the barkers would be in trying to grab you and push you into their clubs and promise you that there were plenty of girls inside. But it was reasonably safe and warm and festive.
As the sun started going down, however, most people quickly took off, all of the shops shut down, and pulled the metal grates over the doors and windows. Families disappeared and I sensed some desperation. Almost like in the Western when the townspeople skipped town because the bad guys were soon going to ride in. I told my wife that if someone had drug us into an alley and knifed us, no one would ever know. As everyone fled, we got out of there, too. Admittedly, much of the violence is gang-on-gang, so if you use your head you should be able to stay out of trouble. But I do think that going solo has risks, probably much like going into a seedier part of Brooklyn, Chicago, or Detroit at night.
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13 years ago
I have never spent more than about $250 at any one time. Can't seem to save up more than that because the itch comes back.
And SuperDude, love that avatar. She has such wonderful. . .eyes.
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13 years ago
Nice one, harrydave. Lengthy set-up, but good payoff.
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13 years ago
harrydave, my luck is I pay for the VIP and all she does is jack my finger.
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13 years ago
Do you suppose several years ago she chose a trade-off whereby she would be a bunny and a pin-up model, but the downside was she would die alone and mummified?
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13 years ago
level5, so many guys have to visit a club many times and sit and talk and get to know a girl. That requires a lot of sweat equity and a lot of money. Guys can develop favorites, but they won't tell you who they are. And now they sure as hell won't give you any info when you walk in like a diva. You better turn down your bile or you won't be welcome here at any time. And insults won't help your case.
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13 years ago
Stiletto, you are wise beyond your years.
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13 years ago
Stiletto, I'm sorry, I can't hear you, you have too many clothes on. ;)
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13 years ago
[Yawn]
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13 years ago
Many will say that they are going to school, but several of those will later admit that it is night school or technical school or some med tech program or something. Few are actually in four-year schools and those that are tend to be the liberal arts, psychology, English lit types who don't care what others think and believe they are doing something subversive. They either wash out quickly or they stay in the business and quit school to rake in the money. So there are just too many factors working against the undergrad dancer to make it a long-term arrangement.
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13 years ago
"1) What do you go to strip clubs for primarily?"
Being a realist, I go to see hot women topless, and hope to see a little pink, with at least some hot one-way contact. If there is significant grindage and stick-shifting, then there will be a series of dances. I don't expect to get wet fingers or get unzipped or be exposed. If that happens, it is a very good but rare night. Given the clubs and the area, I don't expect any ITC extras and I don't even think about any OTC possibilities unless I have spent several different visits with a fav. And even then, I have come to think that anything OTC I push will take me into the black hole of SS put-him-off. If SHE suggests the OTC, it will happen. Once had a fav allow lengthy finger-banging and she did a quick FS at no extra charge, but she was drunk and it never happened again, even when I had a chance later that night.
"2) Are you doing all you *want* to do? If not, is it because of lack of availability, lack of funds, or something else."
No, I'm not doing nearly as much as I'd like to do. ITC extras are probably too dangerous in these clubs, but I'd surely welcome OTC. Unfortunately, I am really limited in my OTC, with little cash, little time, and the need to account for my whereabouts. And the smokey clothes are a problem. These hot little things that do $100 POP and don't charge half the time? Have never been that lucky.
"3) If you had the means, would you go for more than you are getting now?"
Absolutely. But the means are not there. Would also like to go to New Zealand someday, but I'm resigned to the fact that it will probably never happen in my lifetime.
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13 years ago
Were they all over her body or mainly on her tits? If it was more centered on her tits, that would be a little weird. I can understand maybe one here and one there, but it would be a little distracting to have a white head bouncing right in front of my eyes. Some girls might have more on their face than the rest of their body because of the makeup build-up thing. If she's a butterface, it might be overlooked. But the pock-marked, or even scarred face might prompt a bye from me.
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13 years ago
"Knolage"? Must be a french term for an artichoke dip or something.
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13 years ago
Right about now, gatorfan is starting to type:
"Cum catchers? that's what her tonsils are for"
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13 years ago
[Sigh] Any time there is a post that touches on politics, I cringe. Yes, you GOPers must have a difficult time reconciling the libertarian and moralistic wings of your party. And Dems, your ACLU types will continue to run into the teeth of the anti-porn feminists. So both major parties have monumental inconsistencies. And many Independents wish both parties would just go away.
And some of you will continue to think that the GOP will somehow provide better security for your family, the economy, and the country. Simply shoveling money at the military is not the sign of a true patriot. The Dow seems to do better under Dem presidents. And crime seems to track the economy more than what party is in power. But I'm sure the next thing the red-meat GOP will try to do is ascribe some sort of Republicanism on the SEAL Team Six guys. When they busted into that compound to take out bin Laden, it didn't matter whether they were Republicans, Democrats, or independents. They were well-trained Americans. But I'm sure some whack-job is going to try and prove the superiority of Republicans by standing on the shoulders of that SEAL team.
Farmerart, an oil patch liberal? I'm sure that there are several TUSCL posters whose heads are exploding about now.
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13 years ago
I have had a few ask me, with that eyebrow raised type of thing "Are you sure you're not a cop?" Which is a pretty dumb question when you think about it. I have had some girls tell me that they knew I WASN'T a cop because I had done X or Y. But, usually the girls had a twisted idea of what activities a cop could or could not engage in. Not being attorneys, their beliefs were usually just shit passed around amongst the girls. Some think if they touch you and you allow it, then there can't be an arrest. Some think that if you touch them, then there can't be an arrest. You might ask them what you could do to allay their fears that you are a cop, then do it. The best way, I suppose, is to be a repeat customer and the suspicions fall away after you stop by several times and there are no arrests. While it would take weeks and months to slowly infiltrate the mob, the vice squad guys don't have the patience or the resources to nab anything more than the blatant or to monitor any more than a select few clubs due to neighborhood complaints.
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13 years ago
Different strokes, jada. The BBW thing ain't my thing, but I know it is for many guys out there. I don't get antagonistic about it, I just keep moving along. Just like I'd walk past the rutabagas in the produce aisle.
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13 years ago
She didn't scare me, but she sure had the other girls scared. And she'd catch me right after I had a lapper from another girl, and she'd ask (with a smile) "Have you been cheating on me?" And I'd answer, with a laugh, "Yup, but you still have a better dance, baby." And she did. But I also knew that she always had a weapon around and that she could go from flirty to crazy in an instant. And sometimes, when I'd be taking to a girl and looking to line up a dance with her, the ATF would swoop in and reclaim me with a lot of affection and crotch-grabbing. And I would reap the benefits of almost "straying". LOL
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13 years ago
Wow, now the MILFs are starting to look young to me. And the 22-year-olds look like they still have a little baby fat. High school cheerleaders definitely look like jailbait, even though they looked like full-grown WOMEN when I was in school. And Helen Mirren is looking pretty damn good.
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14 years ago
Got the news first from TUSCL. Sad, but true. So nobody in pakistan knew who or what was behind the walls of the compound sitting in an affluent neighborhood? Right. I don't think we can trust the Pakistani government at all. So he wasn't tucked away in some cave on the Pakistan-Afghan border after all. You can't tell me that the Pakistanis didn't know wherw he was.
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14 years ago
You can always go alone, but I'd take somebody with you to help with the keying and editing.
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14 years ago
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I personally don't like it when they rub my package--it usually smears the address label.