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13 years ago
When I was younger I had a hand-me down car with a bench front seat. The BJs were fantastic and happened in traffic, short trips, long trips, any trips. I looked forward to jumping in the car. But now just about every car has that console between the two bucket seats and things are more difficult. Oddly enough, this chick never wanted to get in the back seat and do it. So I had to settle for innumerable BJs by a woman with serious skills.
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13 years ago
I haven't given it the full CSI analysis, but it appears that the writer(s?) were impressed with the lights and size and hotties and all, more than a good ROI and two-way possibilities. There was an emphasis on LA clubs and Florida clubs and big booties and where the rappers are hanging out. PP and Brad's and Baby Dolls and Mons Venus were on there, but lots of clubs I had not heard of. So, not much overlap.
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13 years ago
Here's an interesting survey of what City Guide says are the 50 best SCs:
http://www.complex.com/city-guide/2012/02/50-best-strip-clubs-in-america#17
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13 years ago
Shit, where's the editor around here?
"Haven't found a girl yet who does a great lapper that doesn't have game on the stage. But there have been several who had a great stage show that were busts in VIP. Let the buyer beware."
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13 years ago
I try to stay away from the stage. But if I see "that girl" I will swoop in and let her know that I have her under surveillance. It is rare that I sit at the stage for the night, but sometimes those are the only seats left. Then I try to spread the ones out so that I'm only tipping one or two for each dancer. Still, that pace can start to pinch if they dance quick 2 or 3 song sets and you are there for hours. And sometimes your plan is to go at a snail's pace and the dancer starts pushing all the right buttons and you end up tipping her 10 or 15 in ones just to mark your territory. haven't found a girl yet who does a great lapper that does have game on the stage. there have been several who had a great stage show that were busts in VIP, though. Let the buyer beware.
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13 years ago
What a strange obsession, art.
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13 years ago
Clearly B is better than A. But, in situation A the outlook is not hopeless. You might be able to find a good dancer who knows that she could make as much or more money off of you during the time you are there than the cheap-ass drunks. And she won't have to put up with groping and sloppy propositions. There are a few dancers that don't want to dive into the middle of a bunch of drunken 25-year-olds.
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13 years ago
And just to keep it in perspective: these are the prices that guys who took the survey would be willing to spend. But no doubt the dancers' survey would have higher prices. So their goal is to try and nudge our prices up a bit, and if they are persuasive they just might do it.
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13 years ago
Another cautionary tale about making sure that everyone is on the same page. I had a situation one time where we hadn't talked about doing anything like that, no negotiating, no expectations, no prices, no nothing. A few songs in, she undid the belt, unzipped me, put my fingers in, then grabbed me and took it all like a cowgirl. I panicked and shut it down right away (the bouncers were hovering nearby). But it could have turned into a situation like Albuquerque. Who's to say she wouldn't allege that I had slipped it in and she was the innocent one? Strippers sometimes do things that are not rational. If sexual assault is contact or penetration without consent, then it is best to communicate clearly at all times. If the guy really did force himself on her, then he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But remember the potential grey area that you are entering when you step inside the club.
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13 years ago
Thanks, all. Points well taken about high concentrations of Catholics in certain towns with great SCs. I'll accept that the consensus is that there is no real correlation between Catholicism and lame strip clubs. I'll just chuckle next time, thinking about the St. Louis Catholics driving over to ESL after Saturday night Mass.
@Club_Goer, I second your assessment. I would expect Seattle to have some great SCs based on its demographics, but it doesn't. Baltimore just came to mind--it's Block would be considered a good spot for a TUSCLer, no? And I think it is a Catholic town, at least historically. And with all the Baptist preachers in the Bible Belt, it is a wonder there are any SCs down South, but there are, and many of them great ones. There are probably plenty of examples to prove any generalization, I guess.
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13 years ago
@shark, you know what they say about free milk from a cow? ("She said no huggin no kissin until I get a wedding vow/my honey my baby don't put my love upon no shelf/she said don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself.)
Got into an argument with a tatted-up old skank about why she was not "entitled" to the ten in bar change that was sitting on my table. She insisted that I had to give it to her as a stage tip. I reasserted my right to withhold said tip for some shitty dancing and attitude. Nearly came to blows.
Almost got sucked into a strip club in New Orleans that featured trannies. It took studying the poster of the dancers for several minutes until I figured it out.
Saw a skinny, skanky dancer in Omaha one time who had basketball-sized implants. She must have been at least 60. I couldn't believe that I was actually sitting and watching it.
Went to LEC in Denver one time and had a dancer standing and straddling my lap while I sat on the couch. You can sit there naked and spank it and pay extra to touch her non-private places. When I switched hands, she stopped and bitched me out for several minutes. Kind of ruined the mood. Must be the stripper analogy to shaking hands with the left hand in the Mideast.
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13 years ago
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@rick, hopefully your words will resonate as sound advice to everyone here. While I may never have to worry about getting enough money to be a whale and then busting out later, your story illuminates the harsh reality once again. It doesn't matter how much money you spread around, it doesn't buy you good will or credit or anything, really. Once the wallet is empty, the girls move on and don't come back until the green does. Darwinism as applied to the club. Weaker, wounded animals get left behind and the herd keeps moving. Life can be a bitch, but it certainly won't change.
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13 years ago
I think the usual rule still holds. If a dancer grabs you right out of the gate, it usually means the desperate one is trying to get her claws in you before your eyes adjust and you get to see the rest of the field. Think about it: what are the chances that the hottest dancer will have a lull between customers just as you walk in the door? The fact that an exceptional situation happened to you is no reason to forget the general rule. It was just a coincidence.
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13 years ago
Never really understood it. If a dancer wants me to do it to her, I try to decline. I usually think that she is just doing it because she is expected to. @Stiletto, I thought you liked somebody caressing your butt? Whole different deal?
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13 years ago
Not to start down a pretty well-worn path again, but customer mouth contact on dancer breasts could be a prime way to pass on germs. It is all up to the girl cleaning up between customers with alcohol wipes or something. Some girls do. Many girls don't. It would be wise to know what your fave is doing between dances in the dressing room.
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13 years ago
But you have to stand six feet away from the screen. Kidding, just kidding.
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13 years ago
What with dancers trying to juggle clients and phones and such, I'm surprised this doesn't happen all the time.
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13 years ago
A very good one knows you and your moods and your body language. An ATF fits you like hand-in-glove. A good stripper will take your money, but you will leave knowing that it was worth it. A good stripper can navigate the greeting, chatting, sitting, cuddling, go-to-VIP routine effortlessly so that you both will think that it was your idea all along.
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13 years ago
Like gmd said, it is more about the total package, and personality and conversation have more to do about a connection than the attire. There have been plenty of times that I was attracted to a hot dancer on stage--great outfit, hot body, confident and graceful, beautiful hair, pretty face--and when I approached her and found out she had a flat personality and shitty attitude, that killed the allure right there.
Interestingly enough, I liked your floral bra the best of all in your pictures. It is different and seemed more girl-next-door. Shoes are probably the least concern for customers. I like the black boots--the buccaneer boots that extend above the knees are hottest. When it comes to white, clear, flowery, whatever shoes, doesn't matter to me. Unless you are tiny, there is no reason to have the huge platforms on. Barefoot in the lapdance room is best. Hate, hate, hate when a dancer is rolling around on the stage and claps her platforms together like she is trying to crack nuts or something. What the hell is that?
Tats and piercings? I'd rather not. I'm old school and tats and piercings used to mean that this was some old hag biker chick that had been passed around a lot. I can accept one or two but the full sleeve, all-back tats are too much. The tramp stamp is passe. The tats on the neck are a little scary. And I don't get the black girls getting tats on their boobs--boobs are for worshipping and I don't want to have my face buried in cleavage and be staring at some scroll of their babydaddy. Piercings can sometimes be hot. Bellybutton piercings are nice to look at but can get caught on my clothes during a LD. I knew a girl once who had matching piercings on her eyebrow, tongue, nipples, bellybutton and clit, and she pulled it off. But generally, no.
Names don't matter. Everybody knows that they are BS. I have NEVER made a LD decision based on a dancer's name. But names like Collins, Madison, Sapphire, Violet, etc. are all good.
Hair is important. You'll go crazy trying to figure out what color guys want. I think a short pageboy in jet black is very hot. Long natural hair that is half-way down her back is very hot. If you go long and natural, make sure that it is natural. If I go bury my face in your hair during an LD, and your hair is flowing across my face and over my shoulders and brushing my cheeks, it can't have hairspray, and product, and be dry with split ends. If it is silky and natural, with only a hint of some fruit-scented shampoo, that's heaven.
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13 years ago
No kidding, JohnBuford. Can you imagine two or three hot bridesmaids, liquored up, at the reception? Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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13 years ago
As you know, I have a wife who is death on SCs, porn, chat rooms, dating sites, etc. So what little activity I do must be so covert that the CIA has asked me for pointers. So I am the polar opposite of gmd. What is odd, though, is that she assumes that every guy that goes into a SC will get a happy ending and has built her attitude accordingly. For years I have tried to assure her that that is not the case in SCs. And I have never gotten ITC or OTC action. But if she only knew about the shit you guys throw around here, she would feel completely justified in her extreme puritan stance. So while I have been trying to convince her that there is nothing going on at SCs, you guys have been reinforcing her fears. I can't win for losing, lol.