Seriously Outspent

I guess it can happen to all of us, rick. I am a fairly well-off guy not shy of spending my cash on attractive dancers in clubs but..........

On one of my eastern trips I saw a dancer in an Ottawa club that really turned my crank. This lady was the epitome of all my silly teen age fantasies. Her costume was my favourite variety - side-slit, decollete gown. I primed her with tips in her cleavage as she made her way through the crowd to the stage. Her stage show was elegant, sensuous, and pleasantly raunchy. I sat mesmerized on my bar stool during her show, twitching grotesquely with a ferocious boner. I was in serious lust, dead eager to drag her off to the VIP. I slyly counted my cash and decided that I was willing to use the remaining $2500 in my wallet to get 'closer' to this beauty.

She rejected my entreaties and went to the VIP with a geeky young guy in jeans and sneakers. I moaned to the bartender about my cursed luck and the bartender told me that this beauty dances exclusively for this geeky guy who was purported to be some kind of high tech millionaire. I wanted to shout out that I was an oil patch millionaire and that I was sure I could write a much bigger cheque than could the geek in sneakers!

Of course, I did not do that. After some desultory lap dances with less worthy ladies and a few more beers I made my way to a steak house and spent the remainder of my $2500 on an excellent Bordeaux and a mighty tasty rib eye.

From time to time, however, that beauty torments me in my dreams.

"One night, I became a minnow".......................

Hey, rick, there's room for only one minnow on this site! I guess unless one is richer than Mitt Romney, they will have "one of those nights" sooner or later.

Yet, if one goes to a club often enough, dancer(s) in question will be playing an entirely different tune on another visit.........

Rick I feel ya on this one man.

This is my story:

Theirs this one club back home I go to a lot and all the girls love me...they light up every time I walk in...most the girls kinda fight over me and treat me well for my usual $250spent and a little more for the girls that does take out....(wink,wink)...(I thank I brought this up in shadows CR thread) then one day I should up when this well dressed older man takes my fave to the CR and is gone for 4hours! 4hours! In this club its $500 an hour ! $2,000 for no sex ! Hell I don't have that for sex ! Lol so I was all bumbed out ! I did hang with some of the other girls wich did give a nice time....but it was not me lady ! : (.........

Fortunately I've never come close to shelling out the $1ks to monopolize a dancer. And I'll be perfectly fine to never do so.

Why didn't you compete with him $$$$ for $$$$ farmerart? I would have if I had your "Roll". LOL

Dracula he could not do no such thang cuz he had the $2,500 steak ! Lol !

This story has a happier ending. I will use real(stage)names as it happened so long ago that none of them are around anymore.

It happened at the Columbia Platinum Plus. My original ATF was Carter. She was by far the most popular dancer at the club and she was the ATF of a lot of guys.

I had just arrived at the club and Carter joined me immediately at a table. 10 minuteslater a bouncer taps her on the shoulder. She had to go talk to him. She came back and told me that a very important customer had requested her for a Champagne Room gig. She said that was just about impossible for her to get out of it. She asked if I understood and could wait for her? I said yes.

An hour later she came out of the room and came over to me. She said "the guys wants another hour". Then she tried to hand me $40 to get dances from some other girls while I waited. I refused the money and she went back to the CR.

About 15 minutes later a guy in a suit with a dancer came over to my table. I recognized the dancer as Kitten. He introduced himself as Rick the manager, and told me that Carter had bought me dances with Kitten and to just take her to the counch room and enjoy it. That it was already paid for. I did. I found out some time later that Rick and Kitten were secretely married.

Carter came out of the CR at the end of the 2nd hour and spent the rest of the night with me. The whale paid for it.

The Godfather has spoken ^^^^

Shadow your such a baller !

@rick: I feel your chagrin, and probably more often than you do. I'm a pretty small fish in a moderately large pond. The only advantage, slight as it is, that I have is that when I show up, the girls *know* I'm gonna spend at least a little that they don't have to work particularly hard or play any games for, so they'll sometimes be willing to take a short break from the whales.

I encourage mine to go make money. The more money they make...the happier they are. A happier atf...a happier experience.

As fAr as i know. i've always out spent the others in the club

I wouldn't call myself a whale, but I would say I'm a nice swordfish. That being said, the club that I would go to on only an occasional basis wasn't enough for the girl that I liked to see there when she had her moby dick there.

My story was like this, I come in, see one of my favs, we're getting comfy she's got her hand where I want it, out on the main floor, and I'm just about ready to move to a more private area, when she gets called from the DJ. She excuses herself, and about 10 minutes later the floor manager comes over and tells me that the girl I was with would likely be busy for a minimum of 3 hours... would I like a different girl??? I advised the manager that I would think about it, but decided to leave because the other girls just weren't working for me after I had my heart on that one. Hate to be outspent, but it happens...

If one hangs out at some of the dives I've been in, you can be a Donald for a 5 spot! Hell, even a buck or two can do it. Sad, very sad.

I'm not usually fixated on any one dancer. I just like to get dances at a reasonable price from dancers I'm attracted to. If I want to get dances and too many guys are willing to spend more than I want to, then some dancers will raise or keep their prices high. I will probably spend a lot less than normal and leave the club after I get bored. Of course after that I may try the club one or two more times and if it stays the same. I'm off to different clubs. Unless I go from one extreme to the other. I've blown a lot of money on several dancers when several dancers were offering good deals and they all looked good. After nights like that, I start thinking I need to cut back my spending or go out less. I know I'm not a whale but I'm not super picky either. I don't want to spend too much money on any one dancer either even though a few manage to get me to spend more than $80 on them. I usually spend a lot less on any one dancer. The less of a deal they offer, the less I spend.

Example a two for $30 can become four for 60 or even 6 for 80 but a two for $40 will almost always stop at two dances. I rarely go for. two for $40 deal.

If a dancer is sitting with me a long time in a strip club, it may be because she is fixated on me. Maybe in one case a dancer did that because she knew I would buy her a drink or two and get a couple of dances as well. Most dancers I'm not that willing to buy drinks for. Then she seemed to get in a habit of visiting and drinking with me in the club sometimes it seemed like I had trouble getting rid of her. Of course if she looks pretty good and she calls you her buddy, it might be difficult to try to make her leave even if she's been at your table what seems like more than a couple hours. In a slow club, dancers often seem to stay with you much longer. This situation seems great for a while then you start hoping for a bit of a change after a certain number of weeks. If a whale visited at that time, I would welcome the break. However, dancers change and quit so nothing seems to stay the same. She had a hot 10 sitting with her at my table a lot but the club was slow and the hot 10 didn't keep working there more than a few months. I got table dances from her but wasn't about to pay 35 for a lap dance even if she was a10.

I've found there's a wide spread between what most of us will spend in a strip club and what some high-rolling outliers will. It's kinda like gambling Vegas - the casinos make decent money off of slow, steady betters like me, but they make a special effort to accommodate the high-rollers with free drinks, special gambling pits, and I presume comped rooms.

With my favs, I'm always good for pleasant conversation, a couple drinks, and a couple LDs. I generally tip well on the LDs if the girl sat with me and chatted a little beforehand. So, on a slow night or when whales are not present, my favs are often happy to sit with me for a while. I have noticed though, that when the whale does come in the club, sometimes she's gotta go be with him - either at the direction of club management, or simply because she prefers to be where the bigger dollars are.

I'm okay either way. I don't fault my fav and realize it's a business and the high-payer wins. I can play that game if I choose, but I've found I get enough action at my way-lower, but still decent and steady, rate of pay. As chimark mentions, I hate to lose out sometimes, but it's the way the game is played.

I guess the whales are more likely to visit the busy clubs. I've found at least at one small club, sometimes a 10 is working but I doubt she will stay for long because she's really hot and not making the money she could somewhere else. Maybe enough rich people visit those small clubs to keep the 10's working at least a little while. There were more dancers than customers at one small club. I was surrounded just a couple of weeks ago. Then more customers showed up so after a while I only had one dancer at my table. I wasn't spending any money on all the dancers at my table when they seemed to gather so I didn't mind at all. I wouldn't mind more whales visiting the slow club I sometimes visit. Well except when a 10 is working. I'll stop by just to have a look even if she's busy with others.

whales are like lottery tickets, they can be sporadic. I'm more steady and consistent. So the way it works is sometimes I'm getting $10 table dances from a hot 10 three out of 4 weeks and she is with a whale one week a month getting 35 per lap dance. I'm ok with that. What sucks is when the hot 10 leaves and then you only have average girls.

Several years ago, I was in a local SC with a few hundred dollars thinking I would have a good time. I was talking to a dancer when the manager calls all the girls over for a talk. When she came back, she announces that if I wanted to go to the CR now would be the time as the place was going to be closed in 1/2 hour. A customer had called and was buying the place out for the rest of the night.

It is one thing to be bought out, but to be thrown out? I need to start working for farmerart.

Yea this happening to me these past couple of months. The past half a dozen times when i go to my favorite club my ATF is always in the CR or going to the CR.its seems like this middle age golfer whale is spending 3 hours in CR. They usually run to 450 per hour to 650. The dancer only get 200 dollars and there housing fee and tipping fee is free of charge. So in 1 night she could be making 600 to 700 dollars and the guy comes in 3 times a month. So it does suck but there's nothing I could do about it.

Well, to add a second component to the story, a couple of months after this happened to me, William ran out of money.

One night, when I first walked into the club, there were fewer guys than girls as it was a Sunday night. And my fav took off from the guy she was sitting with, who had in fact just bought her a drink, to come over and cozy up. All lights were showing green for an enjoyable night....

...And then I saw William walk up to the bar. At that point, I thought my night was about to go into the toilet. But then I noticed that my fav wasn't moving. Nor, for that matter, was any other girl! When I asked my fav why he was sitting alone, she explained that he had no money to spend.

This is a guy who, for two years, came into the club on a semi-frequent basis and dropped absurd amounts of money during almost every visit. But for two nights running he claimed that he left his wallet at home and tried to convince girls to dance on credit, which of course they did not. However, in consideration for how much he has spent historically, he did manage to scrounge a few drinks from the bartender.

One who did not know better would think that I might have felt some satisfaction from this, but of course that is not the case. I have seen this type of thing too many times in the past to take any joy in it. When the guy has no money, yet cannot help himself and comes to the club looking for credit or comps based upon his past exploits, he is usually in the last stage of freefall. It was depressing to see and reminded me of the pitfalls of clubbing as a primary hobby.

He, and others like him, have been object lessons for me over the years and are the reason why: (1) I have always been careful not too get too wrapped up in any one stripper; and (2) I am careful in setting limits for how much I will spend ITC and OTC on any given trip and in seeking out reasonable ROI. It is not just about the money one has to spend today, but of course how much of it he wants to keep for tomorrow.

I have seen a lot of bustouts over time, but it had been several years since I have seen one of that magnitude.

I mean like what are ya supposed to do? There's always going to be someone with more dough. So move on and get dances from one of the other hotties. I've run into plenty of fine babes who don't have a "whale" and are very willing to show us guys and gals a good time.

I am routinely outspent in the club I go to. I do spend money, though I tend to shepherd it to spread it out over multiple visits as I show up fairly often -- at least once or twice a week on average. It doesn't bother me since my stays are an average about about 6 hours a pop (I drive a long way and this club is set up to cater to those who wish to hang out and relax for long visits), and I know at some point I'll usually have a chance to have at least a few minutes chat or maybe a drink with one of my ITC "friends."

I spend (drinks, fairly regular CR visits), but no way am I going to drop four or five hundred+ to have one of the more popular girls stay exclusively with me for a couple hours. If they do, it's during those "between times" or during the slower hours, or when they're trying to avoid someone, or not into being there that night or whatever... There's something to be said for being pleasant company in certain clubs.

I was hopping into a CR for fifteen minutes one night with one of the more popular girls before she went off with her usual whale and while we were at the bar getting a couple drinks to take with us, the whale bought us both the booze. Awkward...but I thanked him for it and got his girl warmed up for him. She spent the fifteen minutes telling me how she'd rather spend the evening with me..SS, but OK.

So I do fairly well nipping around the edges, and it kinda works out cause I can spend a few minutes with a number of girls until I settle on the one I want to go farther with without any refusal drama.

Rick.....that my man was a very good lesson.......I was a "wale bust" at one point ! Hell damn near lost the house ! But that was a few years back and now like you have learned to set limits on itc and otc per visit !

I personally don't like the term "Whale". I think Regular fits better.

I hear what you are saying Alucard, but I think that the term "whale" has a very different meaning than "regular." Any guy who comes in every so often and drops a couple of hundred on a girl can be a decent to good regular, but the whale is the guy who grabs the attention of every girl in the club by virtue of his exorbitant spending. This is the guy who each girl hopes will choose her as it means a very big night for her.

Here in the NYC metro area they are not uncommon, especially in Manhattan and on the Gold Coast of CT. I have no interest in being in constant competition with these types, so I work hard to target the right clubs during the right times of the week. But even so, every so often one must work around the so-called whales.

I gotta agree with rick's distinction. I consider myself a regular at my favorite club, dropping $200-300 once a week. A whale would spend a hellva lot more.

WTF? I thought Rick had infinite cash. Guess he did before he started listening to txtittyfan's financial advice. What a shame!

@rick, hopefully your words will resonate as sound advice to everyone here. While I may never have to worry about getting enough money to be a whale and then busting out later, your story illuminates the harsh reality once again. It doesn't matter how much money you spread around, it doesn't buy you good will or credit or anything, really. Once the wallet is empty, the girls move on and don't come back until the green does. Darwinism as applied to the club. Weaker, wounded animals get left behind and the herd keeps moving. Life can be a bitch, but it certainly won't change.

looneylarry- Some good aphorisms you threw around, I'll throw out another one to chew on:

"Life is like a shit sandwich, the more dough you have, the less shit you have to eat."

Life is a bitch !

Time is a pimp !