Comments by Dolfan (page 6)

I don't know if I have an ATF, but I have a series of CF's. I guess that kinda my answer A. But I've also seen dancers OTC or more in a sugar baby type situation, although I've never used those words it's basically been an arrangement where she fucks me and I toss her some cash from time to time. I don't really consider them retired until our arrangement ends, but I guess that's also B. So, a long way of saying C.

I bring up OTC only after I've seen a girl at work a number of times and we've developed a rapport with each other. We'll meet, chat a bit, do some dances and maybe but not always more. If I like her, I'll usually say I'd like to see her again and ask if she has a schedule. I don't usually go back specifically to see her on a day she said she'd be working, but it lets her know I'm a regular customer and looking for a regular stripper. When I see her again, if things go well again, we'll exchange numbers. Then I might make a plan to see her ITC at a specific day/time. If that goes well, that's when I might ask about OTC. Another path to OTC is often the ride home. If I'm at the club when she's leaving, I'll offer a ride home. Then after that goes off without drama, meeting up OTC is less of a leap. I don't do background checks or a lot of research to try to find out about the girl, although I almost always pop a girls number into google and if I get back online escort ads I delete it. I don't stress about a hotel, or being vague about where we'll meet or shit like that. I invite her to my house. Often, they need a ride, so I'll offer to pick them up and they tell me where they live. We're both taking risks, and we both know it. I've never had any serious issues bringing strippers to my place. I've had more problems with civi girls I either picked up in bars or had relationships with. The kind of issues I typically have with strippers are from things like spilling drinks on the couch or carpet. Occasionally they'll overstay and it's a little awkward telling her to hit the road. But, no stripper has ever stolen a thing or attempted any sort of violence. That's despite at least one of them having an attempted murder charge and freely admitting that she stabbed the dude in the chest with scissors. That girl was actually a favorite I saw for years. Am I taking some significant risks? Yup. Do I think I'm more likely to be assaulted in the parking lot of a strip club or some other random place I go than by the stripper I bring home? Yup. Am I even more likely to be injured in a car accident on my way to work? Probably. When I'm out 4-wheeling, boating/fishing/diving, skydiving/bungie-jumping, etc? For sure. But I don't live my life holed up in my basement in fear. I assess the risk and what reasonable precautions there are to mitigate it and then decide if its worth it to me. All the things I listed I've decided are worth the risk to me.

I also often carry two phones. I've had a few girls say that to me. I've also had a few say they thought two phones because I was a drug dealer or pimp and they avoided me for that. I don't leave my phone in the car as a result though. I don't think I'm missing out on much, I think that if a girl is close enough to see two phones she's also close enough for me to engage with. I find that smiling and saying hello sweetie or something is usually enough to get her to engage back. If the phones are a concern, they'll usually ask and it's no trouble to tell them it's for work. I did have one occasion where a dancer thinking the 2nd phone was another dancers led to a little drama. I had my personal phone in my hand and was texting someone, when I got a message on my work phone. A dancer saw me set my phone down and grab the work phone off the bar and start looking at it. She thought I was snooping though the girls phone and tried to snatch it from me. I was a little quicker than her, so she failed. But it led to a bit of a ruckus with me clearly confused from a stripper seemingly randomly attacking me and the bartender nearly pissing herself laughing as she understood what the girl was saying and I didn't. That's happened once in all my visits with two phones, so I pretty much chalk it up to a freak occurrence and haven't modified my behavior to avoid it.

I get asked all the time. Often it's by girls who have seen me spending time with specific girls and its a genuine question. They just don't want to waste my time or theirs, nor do they want to steal a customer from a girl either out of respect or fear. Other times I think its just a way to avoid rejection, similar to how many guys use the "I'm waiting for someone" excuse when they aren't interested. They're queuing it up so I can just say yes instead of saying no thanks, I'm not interested in you. It's easier on them emotionally/mentally. Some probably do it more to save time than avoid rejection.

"Just to clarify, a lot of my threads are not my personal opinion but based on discussions I had with other people online" ^ Not to be a total dick, but I feel like it needs to be said. Why bother interacting with you? You're just gonna parrot back what you think someone else would say. Come back when you can form your own opinion based on your own knowledge and experience in this world.

I haven't been to Tootsies in a year, I was just at a south Florida strip club the other day.

I haven't been in probably a year, but I can't remember the last time any stripper in south Florida asked me if I was a cop.

The tits in that flick look awful. If I saw those girls in a strip club today, I'd have zero interest whatsoever. For whatever reason, they give off door vulture vibes. I don't see many younger, under 25 say, girls putting in that size tits these days. I still see some of the older girls, say over 35, doing it. I think its mostly girls who are on their second set of implants. I still see plenty of younger girls getting implants that look way too large and feel way to firm for my tastes.

I'm not super concerned about them knowing what I do, but I'm also not super interested about talking about work at the strip club. So my response kinda depends. If we're having an actual conversation, I'll generally tell them. When its just idle chit chat, I usually just give generic answers. I'm also prone to complete and total bullshit answers or simply changing the subject.

Just imagine the person who got that number after the stripper quit the business and changed her number.

I agree with the premise, having a quick conversation with a potential dancer is very effective way to figure out if she's worth spending on. But I never ask shit like that. I cringe at the idea of some of the shit people here say they ask girls. Perhaps its a different game when you bounce around to different clubs often, but for those of us who frequent clubs in one area they tend to have the same basic rules. The vibe check serves to identify the girls who don't conform to the norm, either in a positive or negative way. I can figure out if she'll be okay with me touching her by the way she behaves at the table with high certainty.

The only thing that sight says to me is that either the guy lacks willpower or doesn't give two shits about the ATM fee. Neither is more probable in my opinion. Personally, I rarely hit the ATM at the club, but that's only because I have the foresight to bring cash with me. On a few occasions I've had so much fun in a room with a girl I've decided to go again that same day, or I've met a new girl and wanted to spend some time with her to be sure to get her attention the next time I went in. I don't always have the cash on hand for that, so I'll use the ATM. I've never had or wanted to go back to the in-club ATM more than once in the same visit though. Generically, looking rich and being rich are two very different things, especially around here in south Florida. We have both lots of lower class over extending to looks rich and truly wealthy masquerading as blue collar. I wouldn't make assumptions on wealth based on casual appearances.

In my limited experience, it varies. If founder is busy, it can take a while. The last time I submitted a similar request, to mark a club closed, it was processed in a few days and I got an alert when it was done.

I'm surprised at the number of Cheetah and Scarlett's t-shirts I see out in the wild. It's not like I see them every day, but I do see them. Both clubs used to do uptime specials that came with free merch like that for years, but stopped doing it years ago. I had several Scarlett's towels, they were an odd size that I found useful for things like car washes and dog baths. They were bigger than a hand towel but smaller than a bath towel.

I like the "titrating my horniness drink by drink." line. I'll probably steal that, or at least some adaptation of it.

It's happened a few times. One time stands out, as the girl opened my fly and pulled down my pants slightly as part of the dance. She then proceeded to straddle me and got it on my underwear. Then when she noticed her first reaction was to call me out and accuse me of coming in to the club with dirty underwear. It didn't take long to get to the bottom of it, and she apologized profusely and made it up to me another day. But it still stands out as one of the stranger encounters and accusations a stripper has leveled at me.

I would agree its often cheaper, even if you factor in hitting a dud now and again and having to go twice. But many of us enjoy having a few drinks, watching the stage, or bullshitting with the girls a little. Spending the money it costs to do that isn't part of the expense of the room, it's it's own entertainment. Some of us are also angling to see the girls OTC, spending a little more time with them ITC is a big part of making that happen. I'm sure there's tons of other reasons to "waste" the time and money on the other stuff.

The purpose is largely market insight. If they scan every ID, they can track time of entry, age, zip code, frequency of visits, and many more items. Ownership/management can then in theory make better business decisions, either catering to positive trends or taking action to counter negative ones. The ID scanners also tend to be bundled with other POS, inventory management, etc. software. As far as what you're giving up or risking, I agree its small. But for me, the value I'm getting in return is even smaller. So, I'll continue to avoid those clubs since I don't really like them anyway. If/when ID scanning becomes ubiquitous, it won't stop me from going to clubs altogether. And likely if one of my favorite clubs started, I might not stop going there if that's the only problem.

I liked it too. It was a lot easier to just thumbs up a comment instead of posting another one that says the same thing.

https://tuscl.net/discussion/84733

This is going to quickly turn political, then degrade into petty name calling. But to try and get in an answer before that, it's some of both. But a shit ton of other stuff too. Attitudes towards sex, sex work have changed dramatically in a short time. Things like onlyfans and sugar dating have exploded in popularity, at a time when sex drives are seemingly on the decline. I'm sure if I went to a club and saw several dancers on stage in a row that looked bored out of the fucking minds and miserable as fuck, I'd leave and be unlikely to go back. I'd leave a review on here saying how shitty it is. But in the girls defense, while some I'm sure are lazy, entitled, brats, I'm sure there are plenty of customers who aren't going to tip. Dancers love to say guys who don't tip are broke, but based on my personal habits it's much more that they're unattractive or maybe borderline attractive enough, but they look disinterested on stage and I'm not gonna waste my time and money on them. Around here though, the strip clubs seem to be doing fine. They're slower than in season, but I feel like they're busier than they usually are this time of year. At least on day shift. I haven't seen nearly the price slashing that is typical yet this year, and it seems like I'm getting less girls reaching out looking to see if I want to do OTC. Those are usually the two things that signify to me that the clubs are slow. That sign is passive aggressive, shitty management though. Have that conversation individually, privately with problematic dancers. Posting a sign like that is just a pussy move.

My approach would probably be very similar to Vorga's, but I've never been in a club as it was raided.

Which part am I wrong about? A jury did not find Trump liable for sexual abuse? Or are you saying the distinctions between guilty and liable or sexual abuse, sexual assault, and rape aren't largely a matter of semantics? I remember why I don't engage in these conversations.

I don't like to get into these bullshit conversations, but the little "stop the semantics" comment here is about the most disingenuous bullshit imaginable. The distinction between sexual assault and rape is semantics for most people. I sure as shit wouldn't distinguish between the two on a resume/background check for a babysitter. You can call into question the validity of that verdict and/or the actual events. I'm not inclined to participate in those arguments. Perhaps he'll win on appeal, I really didn't follow the case close enough to speculate. That's not the point of my comment. I'm just saying that saying stop the semantics in a post that is overtly about a semantic distinction is rich. Anyway, I'll leave you two back to your silly bickering.

I usually go somewhere else. I've been told no flip flops at a few places, but other than that I've never been denied entry. The clubs that have formal dress codes via posted signs or even bouncers who enforce it I find are usually pretentious clubs that I don't enjoy anyway. So its a pretty easy decision to go elsewhere. I had nearly the exact same experience at Deans the last time I went. Door guy said no flip flops, I said oh okay I'll just hit Cheetah Pompano on my way home instead. His response was okay, this time you can come in. I left about 45 mins later and went to Cheetah anyway.