Strip Clubs SCANNING ID's not just looking at it. WTF is that about?
Tuesday, July 30, 2024 8:49 AM
So I go into a strip club and there is a guy at the door and asks to se ID (Ok thats not unusual to see ID, but what the fk happened to the door girls)?
Ok but besides that they say they ned to scan it....WTF I just said no and walked out. Why the fuck would a club need to scan IDs for?
I'll show them ID, but scanning it is bullshit.
Ok but besides that they say they ned to scan it....WTF I just said no and walked out. Why the fuck would a club need to scan IDs for?
I'll show them ID, but scanning it is bullshit.
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1 - Verify validity of ID (although that's relevant only if system is linked to a database to verify validity, which raises further concern, as it means a government agency has the ability to track who goes to a club, not only the club management)
2 - Track "don't permit entry" customers, if customers are banned from club due to incident. I once witnessed someone getting tossed from a club, with bouncer noting "you're banned for a year...we're flagging in our system).
3 - More easily track down / report customers in the event of an illegal act (assault, fighting, leaving without paying, etc).
I also find it to be intrusive, and often walk away, but that depends on my commitment to going to that club (want to see a certain girl, have had an otherwise good experiences at club, I need my fix, and it's the closest option at the time).
I've tried the "don't have it, it's in my car" approach only somewhat successfully. I do believe that for clubs where you are known, you can get it waived. But, that may require you to ask door person to get person A/B/C, if the door person doesn't know you...which is a bit of a dick move, but I've used it periodically. It depends on my mood at the time.
No reason to have peoples personal info in some database to see some tits. Most people, especially if you are a recognizeable business person dont want to have your ID scanned.
It's not a crime to be in a strip club. I also almost never handle serious business ITC and never when I spot a camera pointing at me in a backroom.
Also, even if the database of their vendor gets hacked, what can anyone do with just license data? My home address is not a state secret and the DL# doesn't get used for anything except as a DMV tracking number. Without a SS# or one of my financial institution account numbers, it's fairly useless information.
So meh. It irks me a bit purely for privacy reasons, but not so much that I will necessarily walk away.
Depending on the club owner, it could also be used for blackmail. At least in the escort industry, sometimes they will threaten to post your ID online… threaten to notify your family members… or threaten to contact your workplace.
The biggest concern though is who exactly in the club can access that ID info? Can bouncers, dancers, DJs etc access that ID info, or only the owner of the club?
Obviously if dancers and bouncers can access the info, some of them can use it to rob the wealthier clients.
I wonder if the club faces any liability in the event a dancer or bouncer obtains a customers address and robs their house?
I get it, if you don’t like them scanning your documents then you need to hold the line, my own personal information is not a state secret either, but if you just give it up without a fight, more and more of your freedom and privacy will be taken away from you.
Many of the customers would be fine with this, as they "have nothing to hide" and are very understanding that the clubs have to protect themselves from liability.
Wasn’t there some weirdo ape named “Forgot to Wipe” that posted here? I bet that is one weirdo that would have a disturbing asshole scan.
My ID is simple. I look at the bouncer and say “how many suit-wearing lions have you seen going to the club? Let me in or Imma go wildebeest on your ass”
Only once has the bouncer said “there is already a suit-wearing lion on the premises “ I let that guy off with a warning after he let me in. Damn bouncer didn’t know what he was talkin’ about anyway…it was a frickin’ mountain lion” But the mountain lion liked Jack so we had a good time hangin’ out watching the sexy female hairless apes so all’s well that ends well. ROAR!!!
I regretted it and have refused to let any other club scan my ID ever since. Sometimes it's a wasted drive but so be it. No fucking strip club has a valid reason to have any of my personal information period!
I think ohio was one…
The only places that have a legitimate need to scan your license (or keep photocopy on file) are your employer, bank/credit union, physician/hospital state motor vehicle dept., and law enforcement.
I just might try datinman's approach someday.
I don't think I'd be happy with them scanning but if it is the only club option for a large distance I might let them do it. Here in NOLa I don't really feel like it would be plausible to simply refuse, depart, and patronize another club, because, what other club?
Its like RING doorbell cams that your neighbor has. It might be there property but they are getting you in footage and the cameras are tied in to LEO so they can get surveillance without warrants and bypass your rights. RING is a big surveillance platform for police to spy on people outside of law under the guise of "safety". https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/ri…
Same as strip clubs that use ID scanners. Its just aother piece of the puzzle they have to run around surveilling people. Even if you didnt do shit wrong, they will find something you did and find a fine for it. That you can believe, they are trained to think of citizens as beneath them.
Then the whole minor stop devolves into a "Do you mind if we search your car" and when you refuse because it is violating your rights, plus you know you dont have anything in the car they call a K-9 unit to false alert to bypass your rights. The dog gives a false alert and there you go. even if you know with 110% certainty you have nothing you get nervous because you know they are capable of lying and planting shit since its happened many times before to various people from various walks of life. https://reason.com/2021/05/13/the-police… So logical and normal thing to do is distrust them in all interactions because they arent worthy of trust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLfjD0YF…
As far as what you're giving up or risking, I agree its small. But for me, the value I'm getting in return is even smaller. So, I'll continue to avoid those clubs since I don't really like them anyway. If/when ID scanning becomes ubiquitous, it won't stop me from going to clubs altogether. And likely if one of my favorite clubs started, I might not stop going there if that's the only problem.
I do wonder how careful they are in handling the ID info and how liable they can be if a bouncer or dancer accesses it. Club owners are aware of the fact crackhead bouncers and crackho dancers can work at clubs, dancers can have pimps… so they have to be even more careful handling the IDs.
Credit cards literally give you cash back or other rewards, so anyone with money is going to be spending on their cards. ATMs are in every state in the US. So if you supposedly need cash to give out as gifts to someone, you can withdraw it from an ATM.
The guy being interviewed literally has bling on his wrist. Obviously if someones traveling with a bunch of cash, it means theyre a drug dealer or a pimp who didnt want to deposit the funds in a bank account. I believe the cutoff amount is the IRS or FBI tracks transactions 10k or higher?
People are claiming unjust forfeiture all over those youtube comments but the reality is nobody has any reason to be traveling domestically with thousands of dollars in cash..other than a drug dealer or hoe or pimp or other illicit profession.
Even if someone really needs cash, they can get it an ATM. Why would they need to travel with that cash? Because theyre afraid to deposit it in a bank
So according to your logic, I guess you sould just let someone with a badge search inside your butthole if they want just because "Hey....you aint got nuthin ta hide". Which is a fallacy in itself. If thats the case then why have a front door or curtains or any privacy at all? " I mean what are you hiding in your house that you need curtains and doors? (You see how foolish your logic is)
ATMs have daily limits sometimes on withdraw, also sometimes if its over a certain amount banks make you wait for your own money before withdraw. There have even ben many cases where banks will refuse to let people withdraw from their own accounts. Freezing them etc. https://dailyhodl.com/2023/07/22/us-bank… Its always under the guise of "Suspicious behavior" or "Safety".
So perhaps they withdrew the money to make a purchase so they didnt have to wait and mess around. Maybe they didnt have a bank branch wherever they were headed. We dont know these things, but you are assuming they are criminals just beacuse they dont carry around credit cards and pay high interest rates.
Who are the real criminals who saw an opportunity to seize cash by shaking down travelers working hand in glove like a team of thieves TSA handed off info to the thugs who then moved in for the shakedown and then never charging them with anything? Also there was no probable cause as pointed out by lawyers.
I mean, if responding to a troll is fun for you, then have at it. But know that you're feeding a troll.
There is nowhere in the US where an airport exists but ATM doesnt. Why would someone be traveling domestically with tons of cash? When you think about it, there really is no reason someone would be traveling domestically with a ton of cash, unless its earned from a cash business transaction.
And if you narrow it down further, who out there operates a cash business, where they cant deposit the funds in a bank? It’s basically only people doing illegal things with the money. There is at least tax evasion involved.
Even if they wanted to say, purchase a rolex or a car or something in a state where theres no sales tax, they can still get no sales tax on the purchase if they use a credit card.
And if theres some sort of deal where they receive a discount for buying the item through cash instead of credit card, they could use a check for the purchase.
Besides that, credit card fees for the merchant are I believe 2.9%. And the credit card will give you cash back itself, usually at least 1.5%, sometimes up to 3%. So when you do the math you wont be saving anything from buying in cash or will at most save 1% or 1.5% since purchasing by check doesnt give you any rewards.
Theyve got that dude wearing a diamond bracelet crying while being interviewed claiming he was discriminated against when he obviously was involved in some shady stuff to be traveling with that much cash on hand.