Comments by HonestT (page 4)

Thanks for the additional comments, guys. I knew there were others like me. I'll take the advice that constructive criticism will not likely be well received. I was really tempted because I passed on a pretty dancer that looked pregnant and saggy in her black dress. Yet with only a G-string on, she wasn't flabby, saggy, or pregnant. Just a little curvy. @SuperDude : That site has some really hot models! Oh and the clothes are nice too. @TravelGuy10 : That comment about the too tight, pink fishnets is priceless. The only acceptable bulges on a dancer are her bewbs and ass.

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I don't think its a sure indicator one way ofthe other. I always freshen up after doing VIP, whether I've done xxxtras or not. Just all that touching, and sitting on seats that may have never been cleaned. I also freshen up before VIP. On the dancer side, I usually make the girls sweaty. In most occasions they go back and freshen up. However once at Dreamgirls Columbus a few years ago, I watched a dancer go right back to the floor and sit with a customer after swallowing my load! That grosses me out to this day. I should have told the guy.

Thanks for the comments, guys. Haha about the South Park clip. I guess paying women for time and xxxtras doesn't get me the benefit of the doubt. The outfit makes a huge difference when choosing between 7-8 girls who all want your money, but have similar appearances. I loved that comment about older dancers wearing schoolgirl outfits. I brought up this topic because I passed on a dancer who looked pregnant and saggy at the time I saw her walk around, yet she was really pretty. I saw her walk from the stage to the dressing room in only her thong, and she looked great! I wanted to tell her, but I had my hands full at the time. Maybe if I see her again, I'll come up with a polite way to tell her how to not look pregnant.

Obviously the cheating is an issue, but I wonder how kinky she was on the movies? Maybe he should keep her a while longer?

In my experience, the girls often walk around in whatever state they leave the stage in. So as mentioned above, I frequently see this in the Detroit area clubs. Heck, I almost paid a dancer to put her clothes back on after 15 minutes of walking around topless at H8S. I think this is a common sales tactic. I have only seen the opposite behavior in the "dress bars." Meaning the clubs that require dances to wear evening gowns when they are not on stage.

<ThreadJack> But Alucard, did you know that Peter North (aka The Load Master) used to do Gay porn before switching to "straight porn" in the early 80s? I know this because he was my hero for years, then I let a friend borrow a movie and he told me I was into Gay porn for the entire summer. PN is still kind of a hero, I'll admit it. </ThreadJack>

I do the same as Juice and Clubber, but don't go as far as GMD. Certainly I share names and juicy stuff like in my reviews, but no intel from conversations. Otherwise I lose some anonymity. @Jackslash - that was hilarious about Tiffany's Baptism!

I also have met the Russian/Mongolian mix. Like you said, an accent, but strangely spoken pattern. I didn't know it was a common mix, but makes sense looking at the world map.

Yes, more often than I would expect! Waitresses, dancers and bartenders at a couple of Detroit clubs have remembered me on the second and third visits, even though the visits were 4 and 6 months after the first visit. I figure that these ladies see hundreds of faces a week, but 4 months later I'm sitting there with my favorite drink, even though I didn't ask for it. I think it is like TiredTraveler said, being nice to these women leaves an impression. It feels good to be remembered fondly. I'm always very nice to women I want to fuck. It helps that I don't have the average look.

OMG, I'm embarrassed to type this. It's gross, too. Was at "the King's southern castle" and I was trying Greek for the first time. It was a tight squeeze, and the condom kept drying out. The dancer had some lube, so I squirted some in the hole and got back to work. Two songs later I finished inside, and pulled out. When the dancer stood up, she ripped a loud wet fart! We both laughed a little and I got dressed while she went to the DR. I went to toss the glove in the trash and slipped on what I presumed was the lube from her ass (on the concrete floor). Nobody saw me, but I almost fell, and totally pulled my groin. Lucky I didn't fall in the slippery stuff.

I would say yes, like joesparty, maybe 14 of the 20 apply. Not the exhibitionism, voyeurism, or the guilt. Also not the mood swings or phone sex. People still engage in phone sex? Pretty much all the rest, though. ;^)

A 10 minute quicky in a Starbucks bathroom. None of the customers or baristas seemed to notice. Good memories!

100% smooth playfield when it's game time! Chicks dig it for sure.

I try to book business class hotels in the $50-$100 range. Freaky chicks appreciate a nice hotel room, but I'm not banking enough to do the $200+ Hilton rooms. I always order online with my CC for one person, but get two queen sized beds (one to fuck in, one to sleep in). I show my DL and CC at the desk for check-in, but always pay cash. When I check out I ask for a review of charges, and pay any balance. This eliminates the paper trail on your CC statements. When traveling for business I don't worry about this. I always straighten up the room within reason and leave a $5 tip on the TV hutch. That means toss all the used towels in the bathtub, put all trash and condoms in the cans, don't steal the shampoo and lotion bottles, put all the bedding on the beds (not made, just not on the floor). Good luck on your trip!

I was just telling my friend about how tight the last few girls have been in the Detroit area clubs, that I kept poppin out. I'm a little above average, but I'm no 10inches. Big dicks do not stretch a pussy alone. But having big dicks constantly will condition the vaginal canal to be able to stretch more readily upon insertion, in effect "loosening" the pussy. I would expect a professional xxxtras provider to have seen all shapes and sizes, tho. I generally agree with GMD, girls who do Kegels are tighter. Not bearing children vaginally helps, too. But Kegel work makes a huge difference. My experience with short girls were almost all tight (under 5' - I'm 6'), whether they've had a baby or not. A lot of short women have C-sections. But maybe I've been lucky in getting the snug fit. My sample size is only about 12 or so strippers, and 15 civilians, so my comments are not exactly scientific. To tell you the truth, I do enjoy a little room to work. Not a hotdog in a hallway room, but prefer "a little loose", to "a little tight."

I have had zero success with bartenders, but some limited success with waitresses (of strip clubs). I like to sweet talk the waitresses about how good they are a juggling tables and remembering orders. I try to get them to do shots with the dancers and I, and/or buy them drinks. After tipping heavily (25-40%) a couple of visits, I ask them if they dance or would consider switching to the dark side, just for me. Universally this never works because they have mentally separated themselves from "doing what dancers do." I have gotten two phone numbers (out of like 10-12 "projects"), and went on dates with both. Scored once for free, had to pay OTC rates with the other. Thanks to TUSCL, I have learned how to get that hot stripper love. For some reason I've gotten greedy, and try my hand waitresses and shot girls. Good luck, it can be done!

Yes I have, with two different ATFs. I only do it after knowing them a year or more. Old ATF had the empty fridge, minimal (used) furniture, and slept on an air mattress on the floor of her bedroom. She did have a BF, and he didn't know she did OTC. I hit it a few times, but she started doing meth and running with a group of people that scared me off. Soon to be old ATF #2 just got her house a couple months ago. She had been talking it up like crazy, so I went over for some afternoon delight. The living conditions were horrible, and she just moved in with her 5 year old. I did the deed, and went back to work. The next two weeks she hit me up for money, using house-related issues as the reasons. I caught a CSI episode recently that freaked me out. Basically some prostitute was found dead, and they found like 6 different guys' DNA and they spent the episode tracking them down. I try not to leave and DNA around, but you never know! I think I'm gonna try to just shell out for the hotel every time.

As long as they don't have a DSQ (Disk Sucking Quota)! Manager says, "You need to suck 5 dicks a shift, or you're gonna have to work at Bogart's. What you do with the cum is up to you." Thanks for sharing, SuperDude.

Got a mediocre BJ from my ATF, in my car on her smoke break the Friday before New Year's Eve. It was hard to complain about since I live in a "no xxxtras" town.

I've been concerned about both, as a local friend has been hitting chicks left and right off BP for months. He has given me the phone numbers and pictures of a couple of conquests. There was roughly a 50/50 split of real picture usage, versus fake pics. Most of the fakes were fatter or older than the beautifully airbrushed photos on BP, but all of the women I've seen were 7s or better. YMMV, but my friend gets a call and text message session with the girls, and asks for fresh pix. Like from their phone, or computer. He said he didn't mind if their face was not shown, as long as the photo was new and their body looked good, he would try to go for it. Combine that with HB13's info, and you'll be all set!

I was reading on another board this same question with a different PS. Basically the "10inches" guys (guys who've done PSs) have all said this is the porn industry's worst kept secret. And with the exception of Vivid Contract Girls (and similar), that the girls make more money escorting that filming. All the current rates being discussed are right in the $1k to $3k an hour rate. Good luck, and wear two rubbers!

I think topics repeat every 8-9 months. I'm in my 3rd year of membership, and have noticed plenty of repeat discussion topics in the last few months. I think you lifetime members are doing a great job answering the same questions for newer members. Like mentioned above, there are only do many club topics to discuss.

Reading above, I see there are several different techniques that work. I have formulated my own technique, but it does not produce fast results. Meaning it takes 2-3 visits to get the digits. 1) buy drinks and chat for a while with you target of OTC 2) find out who her friends are in the club, and buy them a drink or two 3) when you do you VIP session, tip her above your negotiate price. If you negotiate $150, give her $200. (assuming you're still interested) 4) sit with her and buy another drink after your dance 5) tell her you'll be back at a future date, and ask for her number so you can let her know you're coming in. 6) the next time you come in after calling, suggest OTC so she doesn't have to give up any of her money to the club. Of course this all assumes you are not treating her like shit (unless she likes that), and you appear to be a nice guy. I have used this technique successfully in extras and non-extras clubs. The extras clubs it usually works in 2 visits, it takes 4+ visits for non-extras clubs. I have only tried this at mid range and low end clubs, as I don't like the price of play at the high end clubs.

Having read her blog for a couple of years, I've seen her face and body before. She always kept that teacher stuff on the D/L. Know this: 90% of the stuff we talk about on TUSCL, she is against. I'm not talking about just xxxtras, but everything else like personalities, spending habits, asking personal questions. I swear she expects you to just pay for your dances, not touch, and STFU. Still a hottie, tho.