best type of club for OTC

I do all of them....right now I'm working about 10 clubs in curclation....dives, upscale, middle, extra, non, you never know when your going to find that dimand in the ruff !

"The problem with these dives is that there are a lot of shady customers so the dancers can be distrusting towards the customers assuming everyone there has a criminal record."

That's a big assumption to make.

I'm not generally out for OTC, but whenever I've gotten it, it was from a girl in a dive. Girls in dives seem more willing to do OTC than girls in more upscale places, IMO. Some are too aggressive about it, though that may be because they have a pimp they work for. Of course, the tradeoff is the girl in the dive won't be close to a 10, typically.

At dive clubs, the customers can also assume the dancers all have criminal records. So if you do get OTC, and she leaves your room sayin "be right back" and leaves the door cracked...get behind something solid and point your gun at the door. Pow!

Upscale clubs. I want Playboy-type dancers, who are more available in upscale clubs. Some people think it is more difficult to get OTC with knockout dancers, but that hasn't been my experience.

Definitely easier at dives. Once at Henry VIII a girl wrote her number on a napkin for me after five minutes of talk. I'd been ignoring her hoping she'd go away and hadn't spent a dime on her. She was so messed up she wrote her real name, then crossed it out and put in her stage name.

But I didn't take her up on the offer, and have never met up with a girl from a dive.

My very first OTC offer came from a dancer in a dive.

She told me she normally doesn't do this but I "look safe" LOL Maybe Samsungs comment about shady characters in dives us on point

BTW. I didn't take her up on it. While she was more attractive than some at this club, she really had a few years on her

OTC does not matter what type of club. I have had OTC offers from dives too upscale. The only difference is the upscale clubs require more time and money to get the offer. I do not frequent extreme high end clubs where you are expected to tip in 5's at the stage(to expensive) so I cannot comment on them. I get many an offer to trade numbers or to give me their number. Be careful of how you use those numbers. I am paranoid about meeting a girl I do not know OTC, to many variable that I cannot control.

The type of guy who MIGHT walk into a Dive like Bogart's, I seriously doubt would be wearing a $1000 suit. LOL

More like is an average to below average type guy in worn jeans with holes & a T-Shirt. And maybe he has not shaved that day. It MIGHT make him look a bit shady. BUT that doesn't make him a guy with a criminal record AUTOMATICALLY!

My opinion on OTC is that you look for the real knock out girls, the 9s and the 10s and you ask them since they are the most likely to say yes, and they are also the best looking ones. It's win-win. Upscale clubs are fine for this, even then you should be targetting the girls who are the best looking and working harder than their peers.

Best OTC for me was at clubs without VIP / private areas. I.E. the late great Rick's in Seattle I had met up with more girls OTC before they added the VIP than after. After they had added their VIP area, girls were looking to do private dances for some serious coin. But I could walk in, met a girl and arrange OTC right away Before, I had gone on "dates" with various girls and very paid for services. It did take more time to get a girl for OTC back then since girls wanted to know guys. Maybe that's just me.

Reading above, I see there are several different techniques that work. I have formulated my own technique, but it does not produce fast results. Meaning it takes 2-3 visits to get the digits.

1. buy drinks and chat for a while with you target of OTC
2. find out who her friends are in the club, and buy them a drink or two
3. when you do you VIP session, tip her above your negotiate price. If you negotiate $150, give her $200. (assuming you're still interested)
4. sit with her and buy another drink after your dance
5. tell her you'll be back at a future date, and ask for her number so you can let her know you're coming in.
6. the next time you come in after calling, suggest OTC so she doesn't have to give up any of her money to the club.

Of course this all assumes you are not treating her like shit (unless she likes that), and you appear to be a nice guy. I have used this technique successfully in extras and non-extras clubs. The extras clubs it usually works in 2 visits, it takes 4+ visits for non-extras clubs. I have only tried this at mid range and low end clubs, as I don't like the price of play at the high end clubs.

I OTC happens most at clubs where there are mostly lying thieving whores with a special emphasis on the whores

@ Ermita_Nights: This is somewhat related. At the now-closed Rick's in Seattle, a few years ago, I was leaving the club one afternoon and en route to my car in the parking lot, I saw a beverage coaster on the pavement. It was right along side where the driver door would have been in an empty parking space. It had the name and phone number of a well-known extras dancer, written in a woman's handwriting. The coaster was ripped completely in three pieces. I don't know if the intention was for ITC or OTC. (Now, I wonder how many former Rick's customers will PM me asking for that dancer's name.)

I usually prefer an extras club and like to do a gal a few times ITC before trying her OTC. A lot of bitches will lie to you they do OTC and its all BS. I have a roster of girls and been doing one OTC for 3.5 years. She no longer dances but is 30 yr old paralegal. Another gal came back from Arizona and was available for 3 months and did her. She no longer dances either.

As you go forward in the hobby you will build up a roster of girls who play whether strippers are providers.

HonesT I like those methods............thanks 4 sharing

@TonyMontana,

"get behind something solid and point your gun at the door. Pow!"

or,

get behind something solid and point your gun and yell out - "say hello to my little friend"!

If the customers at dives may be a bit "shady", aren't the dancers at these dives perhaps a bit "shady" also?

May it be assumed that a dancer in an upscale club may be more "professional" in her craft or OTC while a dancer in a dive may be a bit more "rough around the edges" and not have good "customer service?"