Comments by HonestT (page 3)

Tantric, like in multiple hours, or just stretching out the sex as long as possible? I usually get hassled for my 30 minute sessions, so I always say I want a half hour during negotiations. Am I too greedy for wanting MSOG?

The shot girls and wait staff are sometimes hotter than the dancers. So I've invested in a few projects over the years. I have had several ITC and OTC experiences with waitresses and shot girls. Here is what I have come to learn: Shot girls almost always dance. If they don't, it's usually a special arrangement that keeps them doing it. I've gotten more mileage from SGs than the dancers at clubs with no xxxtras. If you want to have fun with SGs, always tip them. Like everytime they interact with you. I have been given the digits without asking several times. Some shot girls are very agressive, so you'll have to watch yourself because you might not want them coming around more often. Depends on how hot they are. I think it's. Ecause get work on the same arrangement as dancers do, where they have to pay to work there. Wait staff gets that reduced wage, and then tips in top. I have done OTC with 1 shot girl out of 4-5 tries; it wasn't really hard at all. Waitresses are much harder to score with as they mentally think of themselves as different than the dancers. Even if the club allows it, 99% of the waitresses will not dance for you because they will have to dance for all future requests, and most are not ready to switch to "The Dark Side." Also waitresses typically have actual boyfriends, where most dancers only have fuck buddies. So waitresses will keep you walled off much longer. This doesn't mean you can't get the digits, though. I have scored OTS with 2 waitresses out of 10 or so tries, and a third would on the condition we dated for a few weeks, and I stopped getting dances. By tries, I mean going into the club when the waitress is working, talking to her, buying her drinks, and tipping her; repeatedly. I'm talking multi-visit projects. Strip club waitresses are used to customers trying to get rid of them all the time, so they can concentrate on the dancers. If you show love to the waitresses, they will remember you and you will stand out. I've had the waitresses and shit girls verbally fight over me at a couple of clubs. Sure they wanted my money (which I budgeted), butthe attention was great. I always had my drink(s) when I wanted them, and never got hassled when I didn't want them. If you really want to get in a waitress' heart, buy her a gift after a couple of visits. They'll go crazy cause it's very rare for a customer to give them anything other than a couple of bucks.

I wish BT's had a one-time VIP fee, like Henry VIII. That is my only complaint about the place.

Ugh, I'll write up a full review soon, but here is quick summary. The Good The physical club is as advertised, and the atmosphere is excellent. There were about 20 girls working, about 4 10s, 4 9s, and unfortunately 2 5s (fat/flabby). The 9s and 10s were smoking hot. I was seated in a great spot with the main stage in front of me, the bar stage to my left, and another stage attached to my booth. The wait staff was excellent, and several were 8+. The Bad Though I tipped two different 9s $5 each (twice) on poles #2 and #4, and both claimed to not be with customers, both disappeared after doing the bar pole. I waited 20 minutes for each, and moved on. Two different dancers sat down and asked me for dances, yet neither did xxxtras. It took me almost two hours to find a girl that did xxxtras, but she was on the rag and could only do a BJ. Since it was after 1:15am, I had to go for it. She got through 3 songs and then got called to the stage. At 1:30am! No happy ending. The Ugly One dancer I asked about xxxtras from was offended. I shit you not, said "are you looking at my face? I don't need to do xxxtras." She was a 7 at best, and I wouldn't have even considered her but it was late and I was getting desperate. She was a White spinner with A cups, and kind of a butter face. Below PHC standards I would expect. I had the great booth seat, and there was a pole right behind my head. I tipped a dancer there within my first five minutes. She was wearing white bikini bottoms. When she spread her legs I could see she was totally spotting blood. I politely told her she as leaking and she freaked out! "it's not even my time! This is a week early!" She told a bouncer/manager, and he made her finish pole #4, and the bar pole. Not the best PHC experience.

Okay thanks, guys. Looks like its going to be me and Eminem kicking it on 8 Mile!

I try to only dance with girls at the start of the shift. I am surprised at this topic. Even though I've made a deal of "going to wash up" before the dance starts, a few have pulled my fingers out of their cockpit. I can't really complain about it, considering how dirty and rough most guys' fingernails are.

I'm a big fan of piercings! I seek out girls that have them. I have had lots of experience with pierced nipples. However, 4 of the 5 women I've played with that had pierced nipples said they lost sensitivity after the first year. Not sure if was from playing with them too much, or just havin the hole with jewelery. Though I find it rare that strippers have pierced nipples. I love tongue studs flicking across my Johnson! The 6-7 gals I've experienced with that, they were extremely orally fixated. On the pierced labia scenario, I've only been with 2. They both said they were mostly ornamental. And while they were fun to pull on, they provided about as much pleasure as an ear piercing. I have seen 3 women with clitoral hood piercings. (Only the hood, not the clit) 2 said it helped them orgasm much easier. Both said if they wear really tight jeans they can come from a nice walk. One girl said she can now cross her legs and squeeze out an orgasm if she's in the mood. The third girl said she lost some feeling in her clitoris and was thinking of taking it out. Note that all 3 had their jewelry between 6 months and a year. Just my data points for the chart. I'm much more selective about tattoos, and prefer fewer with less color than most of the strippers ive seen lately.

Where have you seen some of these outrageous prices? Hopefully not in the "D".

Good luck TravelGuy! @Clubber: it's easy to have a $150 cell phone bill. AT&T 2 iPhones 700 minutes a month $60 Unlimited data $60 Unlimited texts $20 $15 in taxes

I think Rihanna ran out of fucks to give $20M ago. I would fire one in the hole for sure!

I'm surprised to get this kind of feedback from California, as the media, tv, and movies would have you believe that hot girls represent the majority. Living in central Ohio, I see my share of fat asses all time. In fact, more than my fair share, as I've learned to appreciate a certain type of bigger girl, who would never get my money ITC. I definitely agree that the average female Walmart customer is kinda scary, and is way below the average Target customer. One of things I've learned is that during the business day, hot girls who work retail or are in college, do not dress sexy. They dress bummy, meaning yoga pants (or sweat pants with PINK on the ass), or simple denim shorts or cutoffs. But when they go trolling for men, or to their bar and waitress jobs, they fix themselves up. Strippers do the same things. Even though we think they are sexy 24/7, the reality is that thy only get sexied up for impressing men. Although some women are just hot in anything because they have nice hair and fit bodies. When I really want to see a bunch of hot (legal) chicks for free, I drive around the campus of The Ohio State University. With over 30,000 undergrad women, I usually head back to work happy. I suggest you do the same around one Cali's many higher education facilities. Or at least make it to a beach! Costco seems like a let down.

I heard the penis/pickle/cucumber joke in 1988 in the locker room. Still funny years later! Here's another oldie that many of us can relate to: A husband comes home to find his wife with her suitcases packed in the living room. "Where the hell do you think you're going?" he says. She replies, "I'm going to Las Vegas. You can earn $400 for a blow job there, and I figured that I might as well earn money for what I do to you free." The husband thinks for a moment, runs upstairs, and comes back down, with his suitcase packed as well. "Where do you think you going?" the wife asks. "I'm coming with you...I want to see how you survive on $800 a year!!!"

@SuperDude: are you sure she wasn't trying to get you to pay her for xxxtras at the door? Door Girl: "you can jerk off into the tip jar for $15. Go ahead, I'll watch." A dancer has been trying to get me to visit her there. I'll be on guard if I ever do.

Yes I have, and she is still a current dancer. She told me before it happened that we had to stop, or she would squirt. I said, "this I gotz ta see!" It happened in an xxxtras friendly club, and I had to work to make it happen. Afterwards when I was driving home my shirt smelled so much (like pussy juice), that I just took it off and threw it away. Big fun, and I would do it again.

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I try to get in as many as the wallet will allow. I have gotten 3 nuts in 2 hours before, but after the third one, I can maintain wood, but no ejaculation. If I was in shape and could afford it, I would try to hit every dancer in the club.

Juice and Alucard summed it up really well. I go back and forth all the time in my mind. I love the familiarity of being a club regular, but I'm frequently distracted by new talent. My local ATF respects that I like to try different girls, but she always gets the biggest portion of my budget. My road ATF has not yet come to understand this. Sometimes we create our own drama.

If I don't know the dancer, 3 songs. I can wait 20 minutes for someone that I know already. Usually another dancer will be by in that time frame. I always tell dancers that make me wait, that I am easily tempted and they should hurry. If I spot a hot dancer that will fulfil my lusty fantasies, I will ask her for a dance ASAP; no pretense about it.

I always tip a couple of bucks, if I sit or go to the stage. Depending on the girl and how busy the club is, that has gotten crotch headstands, air "blowjobs", boobs or ass in the face, or even a kiss. Other times it doesnt even get a thank you. If I want their attention for private dances, I'll show them a $10 or $20 tip. I only make it rain on dancers that have already agreed to do VIP with. I have never seen a dancer not enjoy money falling on them. IMHO.

I just dancers who ask that I've been before, and that I've been going to clubs for years. That usually answers the questions they really want answered.

Great topic, as I have been wondering myself for some time. I tried to dance with a girl who had a wedding ring on at an xxxtras club, but I couldn't bring myself to do it because he worked at the same club! I didn't want to get into a Magicrat Pool Cur situation. She even said, "yes I do xxxtras, but we have to be careful not to get caught!" Now this was in a well known xxxtras club, so he had to know that she sucks and fucks all day, right? Maybe not. Fast forward four months later and she comes over to visit, saying she remembered me and asking to dance. I ask if we have to "be careful" this time, and she says no. I ask if she's still with her husband and she say, "yes, I'm still with my BF. But he doesn't work here anymore." This guy must like the money she brings home more than having that sweet thing all to his self. Although most dancers I asked have told me they do not have a boyfriend, just a fuck buddy. My ATF has not had a boyfriend in 4 years. I guess she tells other guys I'm one of her fuck buddies.

There probably is some part midlife crisis, and the balance being the weakened marriage. As far as marriage is concerned, there is a lot of societal pressure to get married. Most of us cave to this, and that's why we did it in the first place. Naturally you two do love each other because you have shared so much in life. Since you have tried consuling, and didn't split at the first sign of trouble, I would say you did your "due diligence". That is huge. I would suggest you free yourself of this unhappy union with a Dissolution, if recognized in your state. This is assuming you could afford to live on your own, with the debt. A divorce can be much more costly if she wants to contest it. You can pay for nurses and therapists to take care of you in your old age. Likely for less than a wife costs. Good luck!

Hornliness, awesome! We've all been stood up or left hanging at some point. I don't understand it because these women claim to want the money, and you're offering. I guess it is all business.

I'm a giver, so yes. Shoes, clothing, accessories, cash, a $99 iPhone (ATF), and "Go Diva" chocolates. lol With the exception of the chocolates, I knew all gift recipients for several months to several years. Of course dancers like cash, but the gifts were appreciated WAY more. Scored 100% of the time, and made their days.

I Never discuss TUSCL with people I don't know, and never club workers. I only discuss with fellow members and guys I'm helping into the scene.